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magicman54494 04-24-2008 01:45 PM

Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
1. this young man shoots a nice buck. He lays his gun across the deer and poses for pics. HIS RIFLE IS POINTING RIGHT AT HIS KNEE ALL THE WHILE.

2. Another hunter poses with a buck and has his bottle of scent elimination spray proped up in front of the deer. Is this going to turn into NASCAR? "My hoyt, scent shield, rage, Lone wolf, real tree, buck."

3. Some guy kills a turkey then dances around hugging another guy with his shotgun still in hand. Then everyone wonders how people could shoot their hunting partners.

What have you guys saw on TV that should have ended up on the editing room floor?

Schultzy 04-24-2008 01:49 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: magicman54494

1. this young man shoots a nice buck. He lays his gun across the deer and poses for pics. HIS RIFLE IS POINTING RIGHT AT HIS KNEE ALL THE WHILE.

2. Another hunter poses with a buck and has his bottle of scent elimination spray proped up in front of the deer. Is this going to turn into NASCAR? "My hoyt, scent shield, rage, Lone wolf, real tree, buck."

3. Some guy kills a turkey then dances around hugging another guy with his shotgun still in hand. Then everyone wonders how people could shoot their hunting partners.

What have you guys saw on TV that should have ended up on the editing room floor?
You said it for me!!

twildasin 04-24-2008 02:03 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: magicman54494

1. this young man shoots a nice buck. He lays his gun across the deer and poses for pics. HIS RIFLE IS POINTING RIGHT AT HIS KNEE ALL THE WHILE.

2. Another hunter poses with a buck and has his bottle of scent elimination spray proped up in front of the deer. Is this going to turn into NASCAR? "My hoyt, scent shield, rage, Lone wolf, real tree, buck."

3. Some guy kills a turkey then dances around hugging another guy with his shotgun still in hand. Then everyone wonders how people could shoot their hunting partners.

What have you guys saw on TV that should have ended up on the editing room floor?
#2 is funny chit i tell ya! Also magic glad to see the original avator back!

luke/r 04-24-2008 02:09 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
1. I saw a guy walk up to a buck he shot and instead of laying his bow down, he dropped it like he just didn't careand continued to the deer. I know his bow wasfree but wouldn't you want to take care of your stuff.
2. I've also seen it numerous times where theguy layshis rifle down on the animal and walks around in FRONT of the barrel to pose. Now that is safe right there. I can't believe some of these guys are on tv.

FLboy77 04-24-2008 02:21 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: magicman54494

1. this young man shoots a nice buck. He lays his gun across the deer and poses for pics. HIS RIFLE IS POINTING RIGHT AT HIS KNEE ALL THE WHILE.

2. Another hunter poses with a buck and has his bottle of scent elimination spray proped up in front of the deer. Is this going to turn into NASCAR? "My hoyt, scent shield, rage, Lone wolf, real tree, buck."

3. Some guy kills a turkey then dances around hugging another guy with his shotgun still in hand. Then everyone wonders how people could shoot their hunting partners.

What have you guys saw on TV that should have ended up on the editing room floor?
#1 Cant stand that!! Just plan stupid[&:]

#2 Did your products really help you or are the companies relying on you for buisness? Im going to guess the later.;)

#3 Again just plain stupid!!!!

Just show me the hunt. I dont care about your promos and Props!!

halfrack VIII 04-24-2008 02:31 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: magicman54494

1. this young man shoots a nice buck. He lays his gun across the deer and poses for pics. HIS RIFLE IS POINTING RIGHT AT HIS KNEE ALL THE WHILE.

2. Another hunter poses with a buck and has his bottle of scent elimination spray proped up in front of the deer. Is this going to turn into NASCAR? "My hoyt, scent shield, rage, Lone wolf, real tree, buck."

3. Some guy kills a turkey then dances around hugging another guy with his shotgun still in hand. Then everyone wonders how people could shoot their hunting partners.

What have you guys saw on TV that should have ended up on the editing room floor?
they have been in front of the deer for a good time once they start filming. they have cleaned up the blood on it's face positioned the tongue. and unlaoded the gun, for the clip they show you of finding the deer. think back to most of the show you watch the deer almost always lyes perfectly and looks blood free.

wingchaser_labs 04-24-2008 02:35 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
Its all sad but the truth of the matter is everyone always looks at the negatives of things.I'm sure all of us have done at least a couple of the things mentioned throughout and other stupider things that aren't mentioned. Yeah those things should be edited out but in reality it really doesnt matter cuz everyone, no matter who you are is going to get excitedat some point in time and even justshooting at the rangeand take actions that are really not safe but go unlooked or ever noticed. I'm sure we've all done alot of dangerous things in our day with out us or anyone else even noticing we did it......... Now how about all the good thigns hunting shows have done for safety and preserving hunting by promoting safety harnessess, not loading the gun till ready to hunt or shoot, make non hunters aware of how important huntign is and give them a chance to see it (even though its not always sowing the truth), educate kids on hunting and safety skills, QDM practicing and other deer management practices, ect....... After its all said and done i think hunting shows do more good than bad for the sport and no matter how much editting can be done people are stupid and are going to do stupid things no matter if they see it on TV or not. People are stupid and get caught up in the moment and I don't think anyone can say they have never done a dangerous thing or never will do a dangerous thign again while hunting. WCL

wingchaser_labs 04-24-2008 02:39 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: FLboy77

#2 Did your products really help you or are the companies relying on you for buisness? Im going to guess the later.;)

Just show me the hunt. I dont care about your promos and Props!!
You wouldnt have ahunt to watchif it wasnt for the promos and props. Simple as that. #2 the companies dont rely on them for buisiness the show relys on the company for money intern the buisiness relys on the viewers. Its a cycle that can't be broke. WCL

FLboy77 04-24-2008 02:39 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs

Its all sad but the truth of the matter is everyone always looks at the negatives of things.I'm sure all of us have done at least a couple of the things mentioned throughout and other stupider things that aren't mentioned. Yeah those things should be edited out but in reality it really doesnt matter cuz everyone, no matter who you are is going to get excitedat some point in time and even justshooting at the rangeand take actions that are really not safe but go unlooked or ever noticed. I'm sure we've all done alot of dangerous things in our day with out us or anyone else even noticing we did it......... Now how about all the good thigns hunting shows have done for safety and preserving hunting by promoting safety harnessess, not loading the gun till ready to hunt or shoot, make non hunters aware of how important huntign is and give them a chance to see it (even though its not always sowing the truth), educate kids on hunting and safety skills, QDM practicing and other
deer management practices, ect....... After its all said and done i think hunting shows do more good than bad for the sport and no matter how much editting can be done people are stupid and are going to do stupid things no matter if they see it on TV or not. People are stupid and get caught up in the moment and I don't think anyone can say they have never done a dangerous thing or never will do a dangerous thign again while hunting. WCL
Good Post! I was just trying to stick to the status quo.;)

wingchaser_labs 04-24-2008 02:41 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: FLboy77

Good Post! I was just trying to stick to the status quo.;)
Yeah its easy to jump on people about safety, we've all done it, yet people never notice when they do unsafe things. WCL

FLboy77 04-24-2008 02:41 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs


ORIGINAL: FLboy77

#2 Did your products really help you or are the companies relying on you for buisness? Im going to guess the later.;)

Just show me the hunt. I dont care about your promos and Props!!
You wouldnt have ahunt to watchif it wasnt for the promos and props. Simple as that. #2 the companies dont rely on them for buisiness the show relys on the company for money intern the buisiness relys on the viewers. Its a cycle that can't be broke. WCL
Thats true. I just hate it when a good hunting show turns in to an infomercial[:'(]

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twildasin 04-24-2008 02:51 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
I also hate when they make a bad shot and talk it up to be a great shot instead of telling the truth!

mconwa951 04-24-2008 02:51 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
Wing chaser is 100% correct if you like watching these shows you have to realize almost every aspect of it is a comercial for some type of product out there. If they didn't spend the money to advertise there prodcts on the show you wouldn't have a show to watch.
Besides you and I both know if scent blocker came to you and offered you a job hunting for a living and all you had to do was wear there clothes they gave you for free and mention there name a few times you would do it too

MC

mconwa951 04-24-2008 02:53 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
the drury videos are an infomercial for MAD calls frst and scent blocker and PSE second.
Mark Allen Drury makes MAD calls why do you think that the shows exist.

MC

MN/Kyle 04-24-2008 02:54 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: DropTine249

This entire post is why I rarely watch hunting shows.

If I want to see hunting and not an infomercial, I watcha Drury video...or Primos video.


Joking?

Scent-Blocker? B-Mobile? Mossy Oak?



NY/Al 04-24-2008 03:35 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle


ORIGINAL: DropTine249

This entire post is why I rarely watch hunting shows.

If I want to see hunting and not an infomercial, I watcha Drury video...or Primos video.


Joking?

Scent-Blocker? B-Mobile? Mossy Oak?



Exactly, if there is a hunting video made, it costs someone money. Since usually one person cannot finance this on his own, they get a sponsor. I see nothing wrong with this, who cares if you gotta listen to them pitch a product for a couple seconds, go take a leak or get a cup of jo in the mean timeif you dont like it!:D

magicman54494 04-24-2008 03:48 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs

Its all sad but the truth of the matter is everyone always looks at the negatives of things.I'm sure all of us have done at least a couple of the things mentioned throughout and other stupider things that aren't mentioned. Yeah those things should be edited out but in reality it really doesnt matter cuz everyone, no matter who you are is going to get excitedat some point in time and even justshooting at the rangeand take actions that are really not safe but go unlooked or ever noticed. I'm sure we've all done alot of dangerous things in our day with out us or anyone else even noticing we did it......... Now how about all the good thigns hunting shows have done for safety and preserving hunting by promoting safety harnessess, not loading the gun till ready to hunt or shoot, make non hunters aware of how important huntign is and give them a chance to see it (even though its not always sowing the truth), educate kids on hunting and safety skills, QDM practicing and other deer management practices, ect....... After its all said and done i think hunting shows do more good than bad for the sport and no matter how much editting can be done people are stupid and are going to do stupid things no matter if they see it on TV or not. People are stupid and get caught up in the moment and I don't think anyone can say they have never done a dangerous thing or never will do a dangerous thign again while hunting. WCL
I agree with you wingchaser. There are many positives as well. But I believe we as hunters have to police ourselves in order to protect our sport. #'s 1&3 pertain to gun safety. I'm a big gun safety nut. If people see those guns being mishandled they may do the same and get hurt or killed. I believe the TV shows should err toward the safe side and have the ability to edit gun handling errors out. #2 is just a little cheesy for my taste. Not a real big deal. My intent was to improvenot put down. We run into these guys at shows and I think we shoud share our thoughts with them. I didn't mean to come off negative. I'm glad you posted.

wingchaser_labs 04-24-2008 04:06 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
I know you weren't bein negative. Shows do do alot of safety though and things get missed. WCL

Schultzy 04-24-2008 05:00 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs

I know you weren't bein negative. Shows do do alot of safety though and things get missed. WCL
In all do respect what Magic was saying about the gun stuff should not get missed!! I'm a safety nut myself when using a gun so that part is frustrating to me as well. The other stuff to me isn't really a big deal although I don't really care for it but like you had said the products there displaying are the company's who are paying for there air time.

wingchaser_labs 04-24-2008 05:36 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
I didnt mean missed, I guess I ment not viewed as dangerous to the producer... I know people can be safety concious but I was simply saying if you handle weapons it doesnt matter who you are every one is going to do something with a weapon that "could" be dangerous. What if that gun was unloaded on that deer? I know the viewer doesnt know if it is or isnt but in all reality say it was you. You know the gun is unloaded so you know its safe. We all do things that may seem dangerous to other people and actually do dangerous things ourslelves that we dont realize. If someone was to tell me that they have never had a gun or bow in a dangerous position or never will again I wouldn't beleive it, no way. People do things and don't realize it. I don't think TV shows have that much of an influence on hunters as one may think. I'll agree those things should be taken out but hunting is huntign and no matter what you do your still using a dangerous tool no matter how safe someone cna be. TV shows aren't gonna change how people can get excited and do things without realizeing cuz it happens everyday. Plus hiding those things so viewers never see it doesnt chnge anythign either and gonna make em say o I better not do that. It doesnt educate the hunter to not do those things. The only way to promote safety in shows is to talk about it and even then people are gonna notice thigns that "could" be dangerous. I do agree shows need to keep safety top priority though. WCL

PABuck_HNTR 04-24-2008 05:41 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
I didn't read all the posts, but I see guys climbing trees and getting into stands without safety equiptment. That bugs me.

wingchaser_labs 04-24-2008 05:53 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
I'm a pretty safe person but I've never climbed with safety equipment and prolly never will. I guess its cuzI feel safe and comfortable with what I do and I'm not going to injure others with those actions, only myself if an accident were to happen so safety of that nature is strickly individual choice IMO and doesnt bother me one way or another how people utilize or don't useclimbing equipment. I'm not disagreeing with you just stating that safety things like that are personal choice as long as your not taking someone elses life into your own hands. WCL

MN/Kyle 04-24-2008 05:57 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs
safety things like that are personal choice as long as your not taking someone elses life into your own hands. WCL
I wear one because I (would like to) think that my family wants me home safe;)


wingchaser_labs 04-24-2008 06:12 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
Yeah I knew that was coming. Thats why its personal choice I guess. I prolly should wear one but i dont. Live and learn or learn to live, I guess. WCL

magicman54494 04-24-2008 06:27 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs

I didnt mean missed, I guess I ment not viewed as dangerous to the producer... I know people can be safety concious but I was simply saying if you handle weapons it doesnt matter who you are every one is going to do something with a weapon that "could" be dangerous. What if that gun was unloaded on that deer? I know the viewer doesnt know if it is or isnt but in all reality say it was you. You know the gun is unloaded so you know its safe. We all do things that may seem dangerous to other people and actually do dangerous things ourslelves that we dont realize. If someone was to tell me that they have never had a gun or bow in a dangerous position or never will again I wouldn't beleive it, no way. People do things and don't realize it. I don't think TV shows have that much of an influence on hunters as one may think. I'll agree those things should be taken out but hunting is huntign and no matter what you do your still using a dangerous tool no matter how safe someone cna be. TV shows aren't gonna change how people can get excited and do things without realizeing cuz it happens everyday. Plus hiding those things so viewers never see it doesnt chnge anythign either and gonna make em say o I better not do that. It doesnt educate the hunter to not do those things. The only way to promote safety in shows is to talk about it and even then people are gonna notice thigns that "could" be dangerous. I do agree shows need to keep safety top priority though. WCL
Treat every gun as if it were loaded.

Always point the muzzle in a safe direction.

If it was me, my gun wouldn't be pointing at me or anyone else.

I almost shot a good friend in the back with a shotgun when I was a kid. I got lucky and only blew a hole in the ground between us. Another friend blew a hole in the ground about 4" in front of his foot. A hunter was warned by my grandpa to put his deer rifle away. he said it wasn't loaded then fired it into the ground right in the middle of their group.

All were accidents, all were avoidable if safe gun handling practices were used.

I just wish the TV shows would do a better job promoting safety instead of airing video of safety violations.

PreacherTony 04-24-2008 06:33 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: magicman54494


ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs

I didnt mean missed, I guess I ment not viewed as dangerous to the producer... I know people can be safety concious but I was simply saying if you handle weapons it doesnt matter who you are every one is going to do something with a weapon that "could" be dangerous. What if that gun was unloaded on that deer? I know the viewer doesnt know if it is or isnt but in all reality say it was you. You know the gun is unloaded so you know its safe. We all do things that may seem dangerous to other people and actually do dangerous things ourslelves that we dont realize. If someone was to tell me that they have never had a gun or bow in a dangerous position or never will again I wouldn't beleive it, no way. People do things and don't realize it. I don't think TV shows have that much of an influence on hunters as one may think. I'll agree those things should be taken out but hunting is huntign and no matter what you do your still using a dangerous tool no matter how safe someone cna be. TV shows aren't gonna change how people can get excited and do things without realizeing cuz it happens everyday. Plus hiding those things so viewers never see it doesnt chnge anythign either and gonna make em say o I better not do that. It doesnt educate the hunter to not do those things. The only way to promote safety in shows is to talk about it and even then people are gonna notice thigns that "could" be dangerous. I do agree shows need to keep safety top priority though. WCL
Treat every gun as if it were loaded.

Always point the muzzle in a safe direction.

If it was me, my gun wouldn't be pointing at me or anyone else.


More people are shot accidentally by "unloaded" guns, than loaded ones ...... Amen Magic!!


Schultzy 04-25-2008 09:54 AM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: PreacherTony


ORIGINAL: magicman54494


ORIGINAL: wingchaser_labs

I didnt mean missed, I guess I ment not viewed as dangerous to the producer... I know people can be safety concious but I was simply saying if you handle weapons it doesnt matter who you are every one is going to do something with a weapon that "could" be dangerous. What if that gun was unloaded on that deer? I know the viewer doesnt know if it is or isnt but in all reality say it was you. You know the gun is unloaded so you know its safe. We all do things that may seem dangerous to other people and actually do dangerous things ourslelves that we dont realize. If someone was to tell me that they have never had a gun or bow in a dangerous position or never will again I wouldn't beleive it, no way. People do things and don't realize it. I don't think TV shows have that much of an influence on hunters as one may think. I'll agree those things should be taken out but hunting is huntign and no matter what you do your still using a dangerous tool no matter how safe someone cna be. TV shows aren't gonna change how people can get excited and do things without realizeing cuz it happens everyday. Plus hiding those things so viewers never see it doesnt chnge anythign either and gonna make em say o I better not do that. It doesnt educate the hunter to not do those things. The only way to promote safety in shows is to talk about it and even then people are gonna notice thigns that "could" be dangerous. I do agree shows need to keep safety top priority though. WCL
Treat every gun as if it were loaded.

Always point the muzzle in a safe direction.

If it was me, my gun wouldn't be pointing at me or anyone else.


More people are shot accidentally by "unloaded" guns, than loaded ones ...... Amen Magic!!

Amen to that one also!!!

stikbow26 04-25-2008 10:54 AM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
I see both sides of the debate here but I would have toside with Magic on this one being I am a Deputy here in Michigan and it's always the unloaded gun that kills people about 90% of the time and the other 10% are just thugs!! But seeing where Wing is comeing from you could look at it as look how much we are talking about what was saw on tv and that is good also as a way to get people talking about I would never do this or this is what you don't want to do!!!! I just glad to see different oppions and NO fighting!!! Walt

Edcyclopedia 04-25-2008 11:06 AM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
This is in reply to the safety thing...

When I was in High School I went out hunting with a friend (at the time)!
We hunted a ridge for a few hours and met to eat our lunches at our chosen spot.
We finished our lunch and started talking about the afternoon strategy to bag a deer.
He starts fooling around and says...
"I know why we haven't seen any deer", "I need to put a fresh shell in the chamber".
So the WINGNUT cycles a round from his lever action and puts the barrel to his foot.
Well I guess I'm lucky, because a few minutes later he pulled the trigger and never released the hammer prior to doing this.
Yah that's right, he shot himself in the foot and not me, that's why I'm lucky.
He himself, was very,very lucky by his stupidity, the bullet went right between his big toe and the next toe,
with a perfect half circle of a .44 diameter hole skiving each toe and never hit bone.
So after his skin graf and a "WTF" talk from the game warden and police, we graduated and haven't seen the bone-head since, amen!

magicman54494 04-25-2008 11:20 AM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: Edcyclopedia

This is in reply to the safety thing...

When I was in High School I went out hunting with a friend (at the time)!
We hunted a ridge for a few hours and met to eat our lunches at our chosen spot.
We finished our lunch and started talking about the afternoon strategy to bag a deer.
He starts fooling around and says...
"I know why we haven't seen any deer", "I need to put a fresh shell in the chamber".
So the WINGNUT cycles a round from his lever action and puts the barrel to his foot.
Well I guess I'm lucky, because a few minutes later he pulled the trigger and never released the hammer prior to doing this.
Yah that's right, he shot himself in the foot and not me, that's why I'm lucky.
He himself, was very,very lucky by his stupidity, the bullet went right between his big toe and the next toe,
with a perfect half circle of a .44 diameter hole skiving each toe and never hit bone.
So after his skin graf and a "WTF" talk from the game warden and police, we graduated and haven't seen the bone-head since, amen!
I heard he moved to Wis. and is living under the alias "magicman54494":D

Steven McBee 04-25-2008 01:13 PM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 

ORIGINAL: magicman54494


ORIGINAL: Edcyclopedia

This is in reply to the safety thing...

When I was in High School I went out hunting with a friend (at the time)!
We hunted a ridge for a few hours and met to eat our lunches at our chosen spot.
We finished our lunch and started talking about the afternoon strategy to bag a deer.
He starts fooling around and says...
"I know why we haven't seen any deer", "I need to put a fresh shell in the chamber".
So the WINGNUT cycles a round from his lever action and puts the barrel to his foot.
Well I guess I'm lucky, because a few minutes later he pulled the trigger and never released the hammer prior to doing this.
Yah that's right, he shot himself in the foot and not me, that's why I'm lucky.
He himself, was very,very lucky by his stupidity, the bullet went right between his big toe and the next toe,
with a perfect half circle of a .44 diameter hole skiving each toe and never hit bone.
So after his skin graf and a "WTF" talk from the game warden and police, we graduated and haven't seen the bone-head since, amen!
I heard he moved to Wis. and is living under the alias "magicman54494":D
haha lol

Edcyclopedia 04-26-2008 05:21 AM

RE: Things I saw on hunting TV shows
 
I don't actually have a reply for that one...
Except, I believe/consider you still a friend, just don't take your shoe off!


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