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Hoytail Hunter 04-14-2008 10:16 PM

yet another "figure it out" thread
 
and for the guys who already know the answer to this, don't spoil it for everyone else please.

You have a 3 gallon container and a 5 gallon container. Neither of the containers are symmetrical nor are they marked in any way. They are both oddly shapped but hold exactly their respective number of gallons when filled to the brim. With your life on the line,thetask is to go to the well and bring back exactly 4 gallons of water. This is not a trick question, it's just math.

Hoytail Hunter 04-14-2008 10:19 PM

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Here's an ideato help start you out withon how to go about this...

If you fill the 3 gal containerthen empty it into the 5 gal, you now have 3 gallons of water inside the 5 gal container. It doesn't have to happen with this exact sequence as a starting pointbut if it did, how would you obtain the missing gallon to add to the existing 3 to make the 4 that you need?

This is life or death now guys. C'mon, think and live or don't and die!!! :D

Robert L E 04-14-2008 10:28 PM

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1) Fill the 3gallon from the 5gal leaving exactly 2gal in the 5gal container.

2) Dump the 3gal.

3) Put the 2 gallons that remain into the empty 3gal container.

4) Refill the 5gal container and fill the 3gal container that has 2 gallons in it.

5) This leaves exactly 4 gallons in the 5gal container.

Bob

twildasin 04-14-2008 10:29 PM

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Well I would fill the 3 gallon bucket and empty it in the 5 gallon bucket fill the 3 gallon bucket again and then put in what you need to fill the 5 gallon bucket mark your 3 gallon bucket with the remaining water which would be a gallon dump the 5 gallon bucket out put the 1 gallon in thats remaining in the 3 gallon bucket fill the 3 gallon bucket again and dump it in the 5 gallon bucket and BAM you got 4 gallons!

WakeCow 04-14-2008 10:30 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 
fill 3 gallon empty into 5 gallon fill 3 gallon empty into 5 gallon 1 gallon left in 3 gallon container empty 5 gallon put the 1 gallon in the 5 gallon fill 3 gallon and put in the 5 gallon container I believe 4 gallons is should be in there.

wingchaser_labs 04-14-2008 10:37 PM

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nevermind. wCL

Hoytail Hunter 04-14-2008 10:42 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 
Well, you guys are definitely smarter than me or at least better at visualizing this 'cause I posted this and in 10-15 min we already hadboth right answers. When I was first asked this it took me a half hour to figure it out.

Either the aboveor you already knew andwere just claiming your undeserved glory! LOL jk, honor system here... good job guys!

MN/Kyle 04-14-2008 10:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter

This is not a trick question, it's just math.
I avoid math like the plauge[8D]

Hoytail Hunter 04-14-2008 10:48 PM

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Ooooh just thought of this...

Now, let's say the containers are perfectly symmetrical - either cylinders or like a box. How then would there be a third way to do it?

magicman54494 04-14-2008 10:50 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 
I would get the bellhop and the short guy from the 24th floor to figure it out.

Sliverflicker 04-14-2008 11:04 PM

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Why not just put the 3 gallon container in the 5 gallon container, fill the 5 gallon one up with water and remove the 3 gallon one whichgives you 2 gallons in the 5 gallon, pour that into the 3 gallon and repeat the process. that will give you 2 gallons in each one so you dont hurt yourself carrying it, because you know if they were going to kill you over 4 gallons of water, they are gonna make you carry it!

Robert L E 04-15-2008 02:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: WakeCow

fill 3 gallon empty into 5 gallon fill 3 gallon empty into 5 gallon 1 gallon left in 3 gallon container empty 5 gallon put the 1 gallon in the 5 gallon fill 3 gallon and put in the 5 gallon container I believe 4 gallons is should be in there.

That works for me too, it shows there is more than one way to do it.

Bob

Hoytail Hunter 04-15-2008 02:46 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 

ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker

Why not just put the 3 gallon container in the 5 gallon container, fill the 5 gallon one up with water and remove the 3 gallon one whichgives you 2 gallons in the 5 gallon, pour that into the 3 gallon and repeat the process. that will give you 2 gallons in each one so you dont hurt yourself carrying it, because you know if they were going to kill you over 4 gallons of water, they are gonna make you carry it!
Your idea sir is the most creative. In all the years I've asked this riddle, nobody's come up with that one. However, though the math works, the actual volumes wouldn't add up to 4 gallons. See, what if the containers are a half inch thick? You'd end up with less than 4 gallons and then you'd be dead. Well, at least your toil would be less a pint or so as you make your way to the firing squad right?

You know, it's odd that everyone can figure out how to do it both of the hard ways but can't the easy way if the containers were symmetrical. *shrugs

salukipv1 04-15-2008 03:23 PM

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fill the 3gal up, pour it into the 5 gal, fill up the 3ga again, and fill up the 5gal exactly to the top, leaving 1 gal in the 3 gal, dump out the 5 gal, then pour the 1 gal into the 5 gal, fill up the gal again and pour in 3 more gals into the 5gal, leaving exactly 4 gallons!

I saw die hard with avengence......:)



MOTOWNHONKEY 04-15-2008 03:54 PM

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I would fill the the 3 gallon jug, then fill the 5 gallon jug half full. I would proceed to drink the contents of the five gallon jug and wait 15 minutes. When I could no longer hold the 2 and 1/2 gallons in my bladder I would release it but stop it before exit. Knowing my anatomy that would be exactly one gallon. Pour the three in the five and add the one, problem solved.

Sliverflicker 04-15-2008 08:46 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 

ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter


ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker

Why not just put the 3 gallon container in the 5 gallon container, fill the 5 gallon one up with water and remove the 3 gallon one whichgives you 2 gallons in the 5 gallon, pour that into the 3 gallon and repeat the process. that will give you 2 gallons in each one so you dont hurt yourself carrying it, because you know if they were going to kill you over 4 gallons of water, they are gonna make you carry it!
Your idea sir is the most creative. In all the years I've asked this riddle, nobody's come up with that one. However, though the math works, the actual volumes wouldn't add up to 4 gallons. See, what if the containers are a half inch thick? You'd end up with less than 4 gallons and then you'd be dead. Well, at least your toil would be less a pint or so as you make your way to the firing squad right?

You know, it's odd that everyone can figure out how to do it both of the hard ways but can't the easy way if the containers were symmetrical. *shrugs
Most hunters on this site carry a pistol to their tree stand to bow hunt, so I know them chicken $hits are going to spill more water knowing they may get killed than my container would take up!

whitetailbowhunter 04-15-2008 09:25 PM

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Ok If they are symmetrical I would measure how high the 3 gallon goes on the 5 gallon and make a mark leaving 3 gallons below the mark and 2 gallons above the mark. Then I would place then 3 gallon on the line a mark where the top of the 5 gallon is on the 3 gallon then i would ill up the 3 gallon up to the line twice and dump it in the 5 gallon. And presto! 4 gallons*Note this only works if they are both as deep and as wide.* :D what do i win?

crutch 04-15-2008 09:27 PM

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I would toss the 3 gal jug anduse the 5 gal jug, using4 quarters, putting them in one at a time. If you putall four inat once you will get five gallons (at least around here) and that won't work!...[8D]

Good job guys, I figured it out....but had to get a pencil and paper..[&:]

whitetailbowhunter 04-15-2008 09:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: crutch

I would toss the 3 gal jug and use the 5 gal jug, using 4 quarters, putting them in one at a time. If you put all four in at once you will get five gallons (at least around here) and that won't work!...[8D]

Good job guys, I figured it out....but had to get a pencil and paper..[&:]
I don't get it.[&:]

davidmil 04-16-2008 04:52 AM

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Fill the 5 gallon container. Start drinking from it. Knowing my bladder is going to hold about a gallon before I have to go Wee Wee, when I have to go, we got 4 gallons.:):)

Hoytail Hunter 04-16-2008 08:37 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 

ORIGINAL: whitetailbowhunter

Ok If they are symmetrical I would measure how high the 3 gallon goes on the 5 gallon and make a mark leaving 3 gallons below the mark and 2 gallons above the mark. Then I would place then 3 gallon on the line a mark where the top of the 5 gallon is on the 3 gallon then i would ill up the 3 gallon up to the line twice and dump it in the 5 gallon. And presto! 4 gallons*Note this only works if they are both as deep and as wide.* :D what do i win?
Nothing, you don't have a marker, a rock, a stick, an anything. I didn't tell you, you can't mark anything. Now back to the well you go.


ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

I would fill the the 3 gallon jug, then fill the 5 gallon jug half full. I would proceed to drink the contents of the five gallon jug and wait 15 minutes. When I could no longer hold the 2 and 1/2 gallons in my bladder I would release it but stop it before exit. Knowing my anatomy that would be exactly one gallon. Pour the three in the five and add the one, problem solved.
I didn't tell you if you returned with yellow water you would also be put to death. Death by (follow) over-hydration in your case. ;)

smitdog 04-16-2008 08:53 PM

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It's simple... fill the 5 gallon up and pour it into the 3 gal.then pour the 3 gal back inton the 5 gal. subtract the 3 gal.add the 5 gal back to what you just subtracted. pour them back into each other again. then subtract both and add both together.. I mean come on guys its simple math.

whitetailbowhunter 04-16-2008 09:03 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 


ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter


ORIGINAL: whitetailbowhunter

Ok If they are symmetrical I would measure how high the 3 gallon goes on the 5 gallon and make a mark leaving 3 gallons below the mark and 2 gallons above the mark. Then I would place then 3 gallon on the line a mark where the top of the 5 gallon is on the 3 gallon then i would ill up the 3 gallon up to the line twice and dump it in the 5 gallon. And presto! 4 gallons*Note this only works if they are both as deep and as wide.* :D what do i win?
Nothing, you don't have a marker, a rock, a stick, an anything. I didn't tell you, you can't mark anything. Now back to the well you go.


ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

I would fill the the 3 gallon jug, then fill the 5 gallon jug half full. I would proceed to drink the contents of the five gallon jug and wait 15 minutes. When I could no longer hold the 2 and 1/2 gallons in my bladder I would release it but stop it before exit. Knowing my anatomy that would be exactly one gallon. Pour the three in the five and add the one, problem solved.
I didn't tell you if you returned with yellow water you would also be put to death. Death by (follow) over-hydration in your case. ;)
Oh well now you change the rules![>:] LOL ok back to the well!:D

Hoytail Hunter 04-16-2008 09:21 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 

ORIGINAL: whitetailbowhunter
Oh well now you change the rules![>:] LOL ok back to the well!:D
nuh uh uh, I didn't change anything, the rules are what they are. You're trying to add to them. Yes, back to the well you go, and if you don't return with exactly 4 gallons in those symmetrical containersthis time you're dead meat!

whitetailbowhunter 04-16-2008 09:25 PM

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Hint?:D

Hoytail Hunter 04-16-2008 09:30 PM

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half and half equals whole

TFOX 04-16-2008 10:10 PM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 

ORIGINAL: twildasin

Well I would fill the 3 gallon bucket and empty it in the 5 gallon bucket fill the 3 gallon bucket again and then put in what you need to fill the 5 gallon bucket mark your 3 gallon bucket with the remaining water which would be a gallon dump the 5 gallon bucket out put the 1 gallon in thats remaining in the 3 gallon bucket fill the 3 gallon bucket again and dump it in the 5 gallon bucket and BAM you got 4 gallons!
EXACTLY what I would do.

Sliverflicker 04-16-2008 11:04 PM

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If you fill them both half way up you will get 4 gallons also as long as the containers dont have a tapered neck.

Hoytail Hunter 04-17-2008 06:43 AM

RE: yet another "figure it out" thread
 

ORIGINAL: Sliverflicker

If you fill them both half way up you will get 4 gallons also as long as the containers dont have a tapered neck.
John, how do you know where the half way mark? And they aren't tapered, they're perfect cylinders or square shaped remember?

There's a third system of pouring that will get you 4 gal on the dot.


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