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Matt/TN 04-11-2008 06:56 PM

One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
Within this past year, as many of you know I've owned SEVERAL different bows.

2 Ross 337's
1 Hoyt Vectrix XL
1 Browning F5 Tornado [:@]
1 Ross Cardiac (still have)
1 PSE Shark X (still have)

Many people will say, and still will continue to say, "My 33" ata bow shoots just as good as a longer one." After shooting as many bows as I have this year (not just including the ones I've owned) this is just simply NOT true. I've been shooting my Cardiac quiet a bit lately, just to practice hunting situations. It is NO WHERE as forgiving as my Shark X. Once again, probably not the fairest of comparisons, due to they are made with different ideas in mind. For me though, I think I prefer hunting bows of 36" or longer. The advantages, of a longer bow are great. I also love the string angle, and the way a longer bow feels better. The Vectrix XL, was the perfect hunting bow for me, spec wise. The Cardiac "feels" better to me, but I wish it was longer.

For me, I LOVE the specs of the 101st Airborne, and IF I was in the market for a new hunting bow, and I was choosing from anything, I would choose the 101st Airborne or the Elite XtremeXl.


What's your guy's take on this?

MOmightymite 04-11-2008 07:01 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
I've noticed I shoot a lot better with my Guardian, than I did with my Bowtech Mightymite. The Mightymite had an ATA of 31" and the Guardian is almost 34", and I really think a longer ATA helps me as well. It just sits dead in my hands, where I used to be so unsteady. I love my new bow!

Rob/PA Bowyer 04-11-2008 07:03 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
Matt, until I bought my 06 Ally, I never owned a bow shorted than 36"(and usually exactly 36") so you got to know how thrilled I was when I heard that Bowtech was making a 36" ATA bow, thrilled and it's everything I thought it would be and wanted! Don't get me wrong, my Ally still shot but it's the shortest bow I owned until the General and now the Black Ice. I love the feel of the 36" bow.

Roskoe 04-11-2008 07:09 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
I agree 100%. My 2005 Hoyt Protec, at 38", has a level of forgiveness and consistency that I haven't been able to get out of any of the short bows. I just bought a Vectrix XL - I'm hoping it turns out to be as good of a bow as the Protec. The short bows, when your form is perfect, can shoot very well. But under field conditions, when you are running on four hours sleep, things can get a little uncertain.

treboryerf 04-11-2008 07:10 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
i have alwas loved the longer ata,you guys should shoot the commander,it is sweet,and at the longer distances it is rock solid in your hands.I live mine.

TFOX 04-11-2008 07:14 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 

ORIGINAL: Matt/TN

Within this past year, as many of you know I've owned SEVERAL different bows.

2 Ross 337's
1 Hoyt Vectrix XL
1 Browning F5 Tornado [:@]
1 Ross Cardiac (still have)
1 PSE Shark X (still have)

Many people will say, and still will continue to say, "My 33" ata bow shoots just as good as a longer one." After shooting as many bows as I have this year (not just including the ones I've owned) this is just simply NOT true. I've been shooting my Cardiac quiet a bit lately, just to practice hunting situations. It is NO WHERE as forgiving as my Shark X. Once again, probably not the fairest of comparisons, due to they are made with different ideas in mind. For me though, I think I prefer hunting bows of 36" or longer. The advantages, of a longer bow are great. I also love the string angle, and the way a longer bow feels better. The Vectrix XL, was the perfect hunting bow for me, spec wise. The Cardiac "feels" better to me, but I wish it was longer.

For me, I LOVE the specs of the 101st Airborne, and IF I was in the market for a new hunting bow, and I was choosing from anything, I would choose the 101st Airborne or the Elite XtremeXl.


What's your guy's take on this?
I think I remember someone saying that about short hunting bows.:D

Weren't you trying to shoot indoor with the Vectix xl? That bow is designed for hunting and is better suited in that role.

Isn't it amazing AFTER TRYING the "forgiving" bows how much you start to like them.

For 3-d I prefer them around 38" and for hunting,atleast 36".

Matt/TN 04-11-2008 07:14 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
In a hunting situation, I have no doubt the Cardiac (short bow) will preform, that's why I'm hunting with it, but the slightest flaw, throws it off quiet a bit. It's REALLY picky about the bow being level.

Matt/TN 04-11-2008 07:16 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 

ORIGINAL: TFOX


ORIGINAL: Matt/TN

Within this past year, as many of you know I've owned SEVERAL different bows.

2 Ross 337's
1 Hoyt Vectrix XL
1 Browning F5 Tornado [:@]
1 Ross Cardiac (still have)
1 PSE Shark X (still have)

Many people will say, and still will continue to say, "My 33" ata bow shoots just as good as a longer one." After shooting as many bows as I have this year (not just including the ones I've owned) this is just simply NOT true. I've been shooting my Cardiac quiet a bit lately, just to practice hunting situations. It is NO WHERE as forgiving as my Shark X. Once again, probably not the fairest of comparisons, due to they are made with different ideas in mind. For me though, I think I prefer hunting bows of 36" or longer. The advantages, of a longer bow are great. I also love the string angle, and the way a longer bow feels better. The Vectrix XL, was the perfect hunting bow for me, spec wise. The Cardiac "feels" better to me, but I wish it was longer.

For me, I LOVE the specs of the 101st Airborne, and IF I was in the market for a new hunting bow, and I was choosing from anything, I would choose the 101st Airborne or the Elite XtremeXl.


What's your guy's take on this?
I think I remember someone saying that about short hunting bows.:D

Weren't you trying to shoot indoor with the Vectix xl? That bow is designed for hunting and is better suited in that role.

Isn't it amazing AFTER TRYING the "forgiving" bows how much you start to like them.

For 3-d I prefer them around 38" and for hunting,atleast 36".
Yeah I carried the hunting bow (Vectrix Xl) over into 3d for a couple months.

I'm liking this 38" Shark X. It seems to fit me pretty well. My next hunting bow will be 35-36" atleast.

Germ 04-11-2008 07:39 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
I can shoot any bow:D

Matt one thing I notice with the Cardiac is it tends to want to "wobble" instead of fall forward like the Cr337. I am going to add a bit more weight to the front. Longer stablizer and see what happens.

Matt/TN 04-11-2008 07:44 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

I can shoot any bow:D

Matt one thing I notice with the Cardiac is it tends to want to "wobble" instead of fall forward like the Cr337. I am going to add a bit more weight to the front. Longer stablizer and see what happens.
I can't add any more weight to the front. It's EXTREMELY top heavy. I know Andy designed them this way but I'm not sure about his reasoning behind it.

davidmil 04-11-2008 08:12 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
Excuse me for not reading all the post, but who ever said short Axle to Axle was a better shooter than longer. We've always known longer was better for accuracy. Go to Vegas and see how many 33 inch bows are on the line. LOL It's always been that way.

As far as hunting situations and shorter bows go.... REALLY, if they didn't make a shorter bow we could all live with it and make the same shots. It's a sales pitch that people have bought. I'm a big boy... really only 5'9", but I'm agile enough to pull off a shot if you stuck 3 or 4 inches on the bow. These midget bows really don't do anything for us except empty our wallets.[8D]

Really, the title of this thread should be, "One thing I've noticed is people buying these shorter bows... WHY?"

OKbowhunter20 04-11-2008 09:25 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
Why the mean face on the F5 Tornado?

121553 04-11-2008 09:44 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 

ORIGINAL: davidmil

Excuse me for not reading all the post, but who ever said short Axle to Axle was a better shooter than longer. We've always known longer was better for accuracy. Go to Vegas and see how many 33 inch bows are on the line. LOL It's always been that way.

As far as hunting situations and shorter bows go.... REALLY, if they didn't make a shorter bow we could all live with it and make the same shots. It's a sales pitch that people have bought. I'm a big boy... really only 5'9", but I'm agile enough to pull off a shot if you stuck 3 or 4 inches on the bow. These midget bows really don't do anything for us except empty our wallets.[8D]

Really, the title of this thread should be, "One thing I've noticed is people buying these shorter bows... WHY?"
There is some thruth in that statement old man.;)

My primary bow is a 33" TRX Real Tree Extreme and in being such a short bow it made me change from a finger shooter to a release in which I have don't like using for hunting, so I been looking at the Hoyt Vantage that is about 42" from axle to axle and is more foregiving than this short bow set up I have and go back to fingers when it comes to hunting.If I wereinto competing and shooting paper thanmy equiptment would be different if I were going for points.;).
Good luck.

Bobby

Double Creek 04-11-2008 09:50 PM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
Damn.......I can't shoot mine worth a flip and its 64 inches!

Sliverflicker 04-12-2008 12:18 AM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 
I like the guys that are 6'6'' with a 2' long head, usinga 32" ATA bow and ask me, hows my form .

I used 44 and 45" hunting bows for years and killed alot of deer with them.
I am sure I posted on here about a month or 2 ago I was looking at the 101st, Elite XL or one of the Hoyts with a longer ATA for my next bow.

Matt/TN 04-12-2008 05:28 AM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 

ORIGINAL: OKbowhunter20

Why the mean face on the F5 Tornado?
I had nothing but trouble.

OKbowhunter20 04-12-2008 07:54 AM

RE: One thing I've noticed....long(er) bows
 

ORIGINAL: Matt/TN


ORIGINAL: OKbowhunter20

Why the mean face on the F5 Tornado?
I had nothing but trouble.
Yea, Im really not a fan of the Browning bows that are over a year or two old....not that they were bad bows. They have just come a long way recently.


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