RE: Simple question....Do you hunt "Baited" animals?
 

I have a neighbor who owns 15 acres, Bruce. She is ADAMANTLY "anti-hunting"......yet she feeds the deer 12mos. out of the year. I hunt right on top of her land.....and I've been successful in doing so.

So.....the "purpose" is not to bait deer for me to kill. What's the "reality"? Am I hunted "baited" deer?;)

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Depends on what you consider baiting I guess. Baiting is legal in Michigan and I do it to a certain extent. I don't leave bait out all season like some do, or use a feeder or anything like that. However on occasion I have been known to dump a few apples on the ground and smash a few. From what I have seen it really does nothing to bring deer in. What it does do sometimes is get the ones that walk by to stop for a second or two right where I want them and give me a chance at a good shot. Doesn't always work though, some just walk right by anyway.

I honestly don't see it being any different than using scent lure, decoys or calls. All of them are an artificial means of attracting deer to your location. And I don't use any of those. I have tried them in the past with little success so I don't bother with it now. More hassle than what it was worth in my case.

I tend to hunt more open areas as well like meadows and field edges. Not by choice really, that is just the opertunities I end up with. I take what I can get and I can't afford nor do I want to lease land to hunt on.

Paul

RE: Simple question....Do you hunt "Baited" animals?
 

IMO, yes because the purpose of of her plantings are to feed the deer. The food she plants is used to attract deer, that is its purpose.

RE: Simple question....Do you hunt "Baited" animals?
 

Nope, I don't bait. I think here is VA you can bait up until September or so but definitely not during the seasons. I don't need to bait to kill an animal and thats not a bash to anyone who decides to do so.;)

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Jeff, define a situation in which a deer IS NOT baited under your scrutiny.

Perhaps the only thing that comes to mind is an unweened fawn?

RE: Simple question....Do you hunt "Baited" animals?
 

LEGAL IN WV AND YES I DO IT YEAR AROUND, CAN'T HUNT BEAR OR TURKEYS OVER BAIT IN WV THOUGH

RE: Simple question....Do you hunt "Baited" animals?
 

Not legal in my state, so, no, I don't do it.

I honestly am not sure how I would feel if it were legal. Too many other things to think about than worry about the hypothetical.

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In IL, 'tis illegal, so no.

In MI, legal and yes we bait. Always have since a little kid, and have a ton of fun doing, just watching deer.

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Bruce....Interesting discussion......but I'd ask if the HUNTER'S "intent" had any influence on your definitions? Why is HE hunting the ag crops?

Under the strictest definiton of "baiting", (IMO), Bob.......I'm not sure there is one. I'm OK with that.;)

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No.

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I think you are right, without the book in front of me I think its legal to bait from the Sunday after the season goes out until the first saturday in September.

To answer the question: I did once- for my first bow it was still a tough hunt for me regardless. No I dont anymore. If it was legal in Virginia, I still wouldnt do it.

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Yes

Yes

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I don't think that the"definition" is what we're searching for,I think its more along the line of "grasping for straws".[:o]

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What about for bear?

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I ain't flossing your's or any body else's bears teeth.;)

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Gr8 that doesn't work either, because you can bait the doe that the fawn is feeding from thereby baiting that fawn as well.:eek:

Baiting isn't legal in most of the state, but is where I hunt.

Yes, I hunt baited deer.

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Somehow I think the question isn't so simple.[&:]

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Its illgal in my state but i still bait via scents, callsand hunting over small feilds where the deer eat.

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Personally, if I ever get the chance, I won't hunt the ag crops but I will hunt the trails that lead to them ;). Same reason I hunt the trails that lead to oak ridges or a staging area, etc. Because that is where the deer are/will be. But, just because that is where they are/will be still doesn't make the ag/oak/rub tree bait. It just makes it where they will be.

What is the purpose of bait?

What is the purpose of ag crops?

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Who you asking? The farmer?.....or the hunter?;)

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I am asking the person that planted them ;).

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Yes (for bear)

Yes (for bear)

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So let me get this straight.......If the intent of the planter is to make a buck off whatever he plants......it's not baiting?

Or...if attracting deer is simply a side-effect of the planting......it's not baiting....no matter the hunter's intent for setting up where he does?

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why is baiting just considerd pouring food out of a bag, its illegal where i hunt yet everyone has feilds to hunt over. And why are scents and calls legal than, your baiting the animal to come in?

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I don't need to bait for deer to shoot them where I live. Baiting Bear on the other hand is a must in Northern Minnesota. You wouldn't hardly have any luck unless you were sitting on a corn or oats field that was matured and ready. Speaking from expierence here.

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Is an oak tree that drops acorns that grow into more oak tress baiting? Is a honeysuckle vine that propagates itself baiting?

Once again IMO, the purpose, the reason, the food source was planted/placed determines what it is.

If a hunter's intent is to setup on a rubline is the rubline now bait?

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No. Hunting over the food source, is.;)

No. Hunting over that food source.....knowing it attracts deer, is.

To "Me"....no moreso than a hunter choosing to set up on a turd.....because he knows a deer's been there. But that's just me.

See....I view MANY, MANY things as ""baiting".....but I also don't view "baiting" as a dirty word.;)

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Well there is something we can agree on. I've been baiting (putting a food source out for the purpose of attracting them)foxes for some time now. My plan is to shoot groundhogs to get more bait ;).

RE: Simple question....Do you hunt "Baited" animals?
 

yes and yes.

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I have baited. I am not for baiting. I have nothing against anyone who chooses to bait.
If earn a buck is implimented in my hunting area I will bait to quickly get my buck tag.

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I thought I replied to this, but I can't find my post [&:]

Not legal in my part of the state to bait.
BUT if it were I'd probably do so to make taking some does easier

I'd also hunt baited bear if given the chance. Hopefully eventually I'd be able to do a spot & stalk for bear as well as a baited hunt.

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I do,and that is because I refuse to prostitute the word to mean any more than the artificial placing of food as to position game in a specific place and time in order to simplify the act of killingthat animal.

And if baiting were not advantageous and unfair why was it banned when the results of it decimated wildlife in the earlier part of this century.
Baiting water foul is an example where thousands of birds were killed for markets with the use of punt guns fired over bait.

In todays whitetail world baiting is unnecessary ,unsafe and thats cause I say so. ;)

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In NC where I hunt it is legal but I don't dump corn or anything during season, I will hunt over crops and other food sources(whatever we want to call that).

In VA it is illegal to hunt over bait and any food sites must be cleared up 30 days before season. I do put out corn and horse/mule feed mixed with Imperial Whitetail 30-06 + Protein during the spring and summer. I call it my deer steroids program some others may call it supplemental feeding but since it is gone well before the season and doesn't get hunted over I wouldn't call it baiting.



Here is one definition of baiting, I guess we all may be guilty of this one.

2. To entice, especially by trickery or strategy.

In summary unless you kill a deer in his/her bed or walking to acorns or other naturally ocurring food sources which you have in no way planted or alteredyou are baiting, please report to your nearest game wardens office and turn yourself in if baiting is an illegal practice in your area.;)

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It is legal for some animals in some areas of TX.

Most of the time I don't hunt over bait, but occasionally I do.

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Jim, you mentioned that baiting is unsafe. How so? And do you think it's any more unsafe than deer drives?

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Its unsafe because if caught you go to jail.;)

CWD.[:o]

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Jim....It's my understanding that food plots were once illegal in PA (if you intended to hunt over or near them). Is that true?

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No idea my about old laws I'm farming so I don't worry about baiting laws. I could shoot any deer I want any time of year for crop damage.[:o]

I'm just a piss poor farmer and don't get my crops harvested in a timely manner.;)

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Some guys just don't plant there corn deep enough, whats the problem and those apples are a pain in the arse to drill in the ground!:D As long as its legal I could care less how someone else hunts. Its actually none of my business!

RE: Simple question....Do you hunt "Baited" animals?
 

Nope, but I may give bear baiting a try.. All other baiting is illegal here in Idaho.