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ORIGINAL: huntingson

82nd Airborne edit:& General:D, 27.5" or 28" (I can't remember) draw, 70#.

With that set up and a "standard" arrow (I don't know what I would need for that set up yet but my current arrow is 386 grains A/C/Cand I assume this one would be similar) what kind of realistic arrow speeds am I looking at? I am right on the edge of buying one of these puppies but it all comes down to getting enough speed for what I want. The only thing on my string is a peep and a nock.

Also, my dad's set up is the exact same except he shoots low 60's draw weight. What would he be looking at?

Thanks for the help.

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ORIGINAL: huntingson

Dan,
I'll be completely upfront with what I am going for here. I currently have a Mathews Ultra II from 2001 or early 2002. I am shooting it at #64 and getting right around 274fps with the 386gr arrow. I have 1 pin to 30 yards that is obviously a little high at 10 and a little low at 30, but plenty close enough for hunting and that is all I am interested in. I am not a target shooter at all except for practicing for hunting. I have 2 interests in a new bow, both speed related. If I can increase my KE and momentum significantly, then it will greatly reduce my concern of shooting a 2" wide broadhead through an elk. Also, if the increase in speed is significant enough and I could get 1 pin to 35 yards then that would be a huge bonus. The reason I am looking almost exclusively at the 82nd is its speed and the fact that it is probably a smoother bow than what I have even with all that speed. However, I certainly don't know much about it yet and that is why I am asking you guys.

Sorry for the novel and thanks again for your time.

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Huntingson.....

70#'s????[&:]

Draw this bow SEVERAL times before buying. Trust me.....(and I own one).;)

Come on down in Sept to hunt.....and you can shoot it all you want.

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ORIGINAL: Germ

James here is a list of Elite Dealers, if you shoot a GTO you can shoot 70lbs fine[8D]:D. Shoot a few of the speed bows to see what you want.

http://www.elitearchery.com/states/ohio.html

I would shoot these bows

82nd
PSE X whatever
Elte GTO
Hoyt Speed bow, I have no idea which one this is?

Anyone of these would be great:) To me are the Top 3, IMO GTO is the best all around of the three

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ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

Yeah, but Gary now that you have one the company is due to go out of business right?;)

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I think those are the best "Speed" bows, not hunting bow. I still think ROSS makes the best hunting bow For now

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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

Jim,

Don't know if you'll be 27.5 or 28 but here are my numbers at 28.5" on the 82nd.

70 lbs., 381 grain ACC, 327 fps.
62 lbs, 381 grain ACC 307 fps.
62 lbs, 346 grain ACC (65 gr tip) 320 fps.

62 #'s 314 grain arrow, 330fps.

Those are numbers very close to your setup.

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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

The way I'm shooting it for spots and 3D, it'll make the perfect hunting bow. ;) Win, win.

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ORIGINAL: quiksilver

Jim - test fire any of the speed bows before you buy. There will be a dramatically different draw cycle than what you're used to with the Mathews.

Each of the binaries load up a little differently - and it will be received differently by every shooter. I think it has a little to do with every person's individual power stroke, draw techniqueand muscle structure.

For example, I think my bow (ironmace)draws smooth and easy - and Rybo shot it and agrees. Germ shot one and said it damn near tore hisshoulder out of socket (wimp). I hunt with a guy who swears my bow is the hardest drawing bow he's ever held - and Ithink the same thing about his bow (82# Supertec w/spiral cams).Weird.

My buddy was tinkering with some of the '08's the other night, and he swears that the General draws stiffer than his old Black Knight (reputed as being the most aggressive cam ever).

Very subjective.

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ORIGINAL: Germ

Will see at the moment of truth;)

In hunting situation one may need to make a smooth slow draw, need a softer valley. A "clunk" into full draw(most speed bows do this) could cost one a deer.

The one of the main reasons I did not buy the 82nd or any HCA was the draw. When hunting I think the draw is over looked by some. It may be I just need to get "use" to it.

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ORIGINAL: huntingson
Yes, it is interesting how differently people view/feel the same thing. I am just not that sensitive to things I guess, but I am also far from an archery expert. I have a very limited experience with different bows, and I wouldn't even know terms like "valley" or "wall" if it wasn't for this website. My current bow was one of the faster bows on the market when I bought it, and I shot 4 or 5 different bows at the time and couldn't really tell the difference so I went with the fastest.

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