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snortweez 02-14-2003 07:59 PM

carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
Whats hot in carbon arrows and whats not. is it as important to do arrow flights with todays carbon arrows for deer hunters ???/

Kanga 02-14-2003 09:18 PM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
Firstly welcome to the board.

I honestly dont know of any bad carbons out there I use Gold Tip 5575 XT' s for both hunting and 3d IMO they are tough durable and great value for the money

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BuckAlley 02-14-2003 10:38 PM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
Todays carbons are so much nicer then the orginals that came out. Internal nocks, and inserts, and some offer rotating nocks for fletching clearance. I made the carbon switch 2 yrs ago. I got sick of bending alums at 3D courses. They are also good for hunting with the proper gr for your setup. Some carbons on the market do outweigh others. For one some are just built stronger, others have straighter tolerances. Now one thing I will tell you I have found is you' ll hardly ever get a perfect full dozen. I always find 1 or 2 in a new dozen that just won' t fly true no matter what you do. What I do first off is spin each arrow in a jig. marking a dot on the wall, and watching it for straightness. Check not only the tip end, but also the nock end. I' ve had some that were near perfect at the tip, but off by the nock. I don' t use these bad ones for hunting or 3D shoots. I usually set them aside, and find something odd to do with them.

skeeter 7MM 02-15-2003 12:56 AM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
CX 300' s and have so for 3 years now. No problems in game or target. Fly great out of my bow and wouldn' t dream of going back to Alums.

Mykey 02-15-2003 04:10 AM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
I second the Goldtip 5575 XT shafts. I' ve been shooting them now for about 4 years and found then to be very durable and shoot great out of my bow.

elknut1 02-15-2003 08:36 AM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 

I too use carbon arrows for both deer and elk. I started out years ago with acc and they just got to expensive. (120.00 doz.) Then went to gold tips 5575 and never cared for them, just did' nt seem very durable. Then went to carbon express 400 I really liked those but when I went to buy more last year the sporting warehouse said they did' nt carry them anymore, so much for those. So I picked up some extra ics 400s my son had and used them last year, they are the best carbon I ever used.

I too switched for the same reasons as BuckAlley, those darn alum. anyway. BuckAlley thanks for the tip on checking for straightness, I too have gotten some that had a mind of their own, I just use them for stump shooting. elknut1.

huntinginga 02-15-2003 08:50 AM

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I started using Beman carbons a few years ago for no reason other than they came with the bow I purchased, Hoyt.

After that I tried Bass Pro cheapies and they are wonderful. Very straight and very inexpensive, never had one blow up or bust. All fly true and did I mention very inexpensive???

$40 dozen!

Here is the one I used on a couple of deer last year, same arrow, different deer, same results...

Jim



davidmil 02-15-2003 09:36 AM

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It depends on your standards. Arrows are definitely NOT the same. Basically, you get what you pay for as far as straightness and weight. The cheap ones will be crooked, unbalanced and sometimes have a huge difference in weight from one to the other. Even the more expensive one sometimes have some that are out but not as many or as far out. I use the ICS Hunters but glue in ACC nock adapters and use the ACC nocks instead of the standard ICS nocks. It makes the arrow stronger and more durable. I really think if you buy a $40 a dozen arrows... that' s exactly what you get. But, like I said, it depends on your minimum standards.

huntinginga 02-15-2003 11:11 AM

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David,

Normally I would agree with you on that premise.

However, all of my Bass Pro cheapie arrows were weighted almost identically and all (carbons) are as straight as straight can be. I have run into zero issues with nocks or inserts not setting correctly and the fletching stays glued on:)

What else can I ask for?

Of course this was only one set. My next set will probably all be wobbly in flight and never keep a vane!

I will probably have to buy the Bemans next time out....if I ever destory the ones I have....if;)

Jim

ken rose 02-15-2003 06:07 PM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
I use the Terminator selects made by Carbon Express.I have also shot Beman ICS Hunter arrows and both have shot verygood.

Buck Magnet 02-16-2003 08:53 AM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
I am shooting 31" Beman ICS Hunter (400' s) carbon arrows now. I havn' t had any problems, I bought them already made up from www.eders.com They cut the arrows to my desired length, then fletched them with Dura-vanes, added Easton Super nocks (pressure nocks), and, I got arrows sent to me that were for the most part, ready to go. Now, the pressure nocks are great, it is recommended that you glue them into place, but, I never did. I simply put each arrow on my string, and turned them so I was getting the fletching to rest clearance that I wanted. I never had a problem with the nocks flying off or even moving at all.

Before these I was shooting Game Tracker Terminators and I really didn' t like them. It seemed that there were more arrows that were bad than good in a dozen.

There was only one arrow out of the dozen Bemans that I got that was a " flyer" . For some reason, it just wanted to give me troubles. So, I got 11 great arrows out of 12, and, the one bad one became my " beat up arrow" . By this, I mean that it was still accurate (I could hit 3" circles at 20 yards with it, while I was hitting 1" circles with the other arrows), so, I used this arrow for all types of thing. I used it to scare rabbits out of my garden (they really don' t like having an arrow stick in the ground 6 inches away from them). Finally, I decided to test the arrow one day. I shot it into a old piece of metal that I found in my woods at about 10 yards. The arrow never shattered, the insert shoved back up into the shaft, but, that was it. These are some tough arrows, and not only that, but, they seem to be the quietest drawing arrows I have shot. There coating makes for a PERFECTLY smooth surface, so, when it slides across the arrow rest, it makes no noise.

CAJUNBOWHNTR 02-16-2003 09:54 AM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
David what size uni bushing fits the bemans?I' m finally going to venture out of the dark ages and get some newer carbons.I' ve been shooying AFC Vmax' s.Those skinny little buggers are some tough! I like the idea of some protection for the nock end of the arrow.It' s easy to damage them shooting groups when things are going good.:)

CB

2 Lungs 02-18-2003 08:54 PM

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Just recently switched from GOLDTIPS to ACC' S. I' ve found that the acc' s group better.

Big Country 02-18-2003 09:15 PM

RE: carbon arrows for deer hunting?
 
CAJUNBOWHNTR, if you have ICS 400 series arrows....ACC 3-60 bushings and inserts fit them. I am not sure about the other size Beman ICS series.

Hope this helps.


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