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Old 03-13-2008, 08:26 PM
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Sweet looking buck Matt! He sure looks bigger then your pics in the field. Excellent looking buck and mount, congrats again!!
You know just about everyone says that until they see the rack in person or hold it, I think people forget that I'm 6'3" and 200+?Kinda screws up the scale a bit. LOL That was a big animal.
That inside spread is 21 1/8".
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LOOKS GREAT!!!
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Sweet looking buck Matt! He sure looks bigger then your pics in the field. Excellent looking buck and mount, congrats again!!
You know just about everyone says that until they see the rack in person or hold it, I think people forget that I'm 6'3" and 200+?Kinda screws up the scale a bit. LOL That was a big animal.
Have you had P@Y score it yet? If so what was the net score? Looks to be around 140" or so I would think.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:40 PM
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Have you had P@Y score it yet? If so what was the net score? Looks to be around 140" or so I would think.
That's the amazing part.......and I have to check his math and how they score these things LOL
I got 149 5/8" gross when I green scored him and the offical P&Y scorer got 145 5/8"
Exactly 4" lower and I took my time with cloth tape, marking tines the whole 9 yards....I got the same number 3 times in a row.
Anyway he came up with a score for my buddy frank's buck that was ALSO exactly 4" lower than our gross green score? So I'm not sure what we did wrong because man we were following the letter of the law on gross scoring.

Now here's the fun part and I think I need a second opinion. Because he is missing his left G2 (the broken base is only about 1/2" high) and even though it's obvious a point was there, the scorer said that the next tine down (his split G3) now becomes your G2 and you compare side to side that way.
So basically rather than matching tine for tine on such a symmetrical rack you wind up taking 2 against 3, 3 against 4 , 4 against 5 and it's nothing but deduction after deduction..... right down to his right G5 just becoming a straight deduction[:-]

Til' he was all said and done my net P&Y score wound up being 123 3/8"


Can anyone look at a 13pt typical buck with a 21" inside spread and 21" main beams and figure that it won't even net P&Y?

I'm still a little confused by it but hey it is what it is I guess and he's a 145+" buck in my eyes.
If he had that broken G2 the scorer said the only deductions would have been the splits and he would have grossed about 151" and netted around 143".

He would actually net P&Y if I would break off the right G2!!
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Thats a shame on the score Matt, I never did like the deductions, the net P&Y score does not reflect the actual overall apperance of many great racks that are in the record books or those like yours missing a G2 that will just miss making it even if it does have more than 145" of bone.
Reguardless of the record books its a great rack, add the story, help from friends and shot with a recurve, I am sure it has been written in your book!
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You know just about everyone says that until they see the rack in person or hold it, I think people forget that I'm 6'3" and 200+?Kinda screws up the scale a bit. LOL That was a big animal.
That inside spread is 21 1/8".

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NICE!!!
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You look wierd, but tell her not to call me between 8am and 5pm.
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This is a great reason that we (HNI community) should come up with our own system of scoring great bucks like this. Screw P&Y and B&C. Great buck!
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:32 AM
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This is a great reason that we (HNI community) should come up with our own system of scoring great bucks like this. Screw P&Y and B&C. Great buck!
Ah it's no big deal, I'm not worrying about it beyond the missing 4"? The guy who scored it did so at the busy HArrisburg Sport Show writing the scores down on the back of a business card......in between bites of some stew. LOL
If he added wrong by less than 2" he makes it. I may have it scored again just to be sure but yeah almost 23" of deductions on a rack that at first glance appears to be a mirror image on each side. Even the splits are the same size. I never knew you just pretended that missing G2 wasn't there, that's the worst point to lose because now you have to compare all the others and they are very different side to side all the way out.
He was slashing and burning inches like it was a used car sale.[:-]

And I got off easy! My buddy Frank!? His rack grosses 139 5/8" (again exactly 4" under what we got) and NETS 92 3/8"!! [:-]It has 6+" bases and 140" of bone and doesn't even net 100" LOL He lost 48" in side to side deductions, and I thought he was gonna eat a bullet.
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