Is my draw length too long? pic
 

Does my draw length look a little long to you guys? Also how does the rest of my form look? Besides the fact I dont have a field tip on my arrow and only have 1 string silencer lol.



Thanks,

Die Hard

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nope looks just right to me...

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Yes, it is way long! Your leaning back, your bow arm is locked out straight, your too grippy on the bow,

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Ditto what Rob said. Your release is way too long also.

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Looks a bit long to me. And I would try to relax my bow arm a little bit.

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Looks much like my form with a longer drawlength... and besides no tip on the arrow... are they even cut to length yet???

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The draw length of the bow is approx. 1" too long. Maybe a bit more. The release is too long by about an inch. Can't tell for sure but the string loop looks long also. The overall effect is that it has your upper body WAY over extended.

Your left shoulder is too high and you have too much of a grip on the bow, but these can be worked on later. For now get to shortening the bow and release. Once these are adjusted to something near normal you will have to slide the kisser button and peep down the string. Your anchor will naturally be higher to llow keeping the nost on the string.

Don't be afraid to change these things. You're form is absolutely ugly right now and you'll never achieve the accuracy potential you're capable of till you have your equipment adjusted to fit YOU.

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I would say you're definitely over drawn, by probably 3/4 of an inch by my estimation.

You're leaning back.

Your bow arm is locked.

You have too much palm into your grip.

Your release is too long.

Personally, I'd work on one thing at a time starting with your equipment and then working the new stuff into your new form. Take the bow into the shop and have the module swapped out. If your bow came with a box of modules (most Martin bows do) it should also have come with a module chart. Find the module that is one inch less than what you're using now. You may be able to swap it without a press, but once and awhile you'll find one of those screws right behind the limb and you won't be able to get to it without pressing it.

Next, trade that release in for one with more adjustment. You can adjust it down so that your hand ir further forward on your face and you won't have to reach quite as far with your finger to trigger the realease. You'll be able to learn/apply back tension with a more adjustable release as well.

Once you've got the module swapped out have the shop help adjust your peep to fit you again. Don't try and adjust your head to see through it where its at now, adjust it. You'll save yourself a lot of headache and help prevent poor form habits from getting worse.

With a shorter draw you'll likely be able to work on unlocking that bow arm. A slight bend is all you need, just enough so that you aren't forcing your forearm into the path of the string. Also with a shorter module you should straighten up some as well.

After all that, work on rotating your hand so that you have less palm into the grip.

Start with getting the equipment to fit you and then work on YOU. But... I'm really just a novice at all this, so I'll let someone more experienced/wiser give you better advice. Thats just where and how I would start out.

Good luck! :D

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Check here:

Hopefully we'll have a bunch more contributors soon........

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2675457

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Yep!! Way too long.

Dan

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I also feel the draw length is too long but it may not be as long as the form makes it look,but then again it might be.

The first thing imo that needs to be done is take the kisser off and throw it in the trash.Then adjust the draw about a 1/2" down(this might not be enough but a good starting point imo) and get a new release that has a more forward trigger design and adjust it short.

Then work on some of the issues brought up and use video,pictures and full length mirrors to help fix obvious problems,The link Matt gave should be a nice starting point to see what is considered some good form.


The one thing I can tell you is the first thing you will notice when trying to not lean back is that it will feel like you are leaning forward and this is one reason to use a mirror and video.

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Yeah you can't work on much else until you get a proper fit on draw length and that release........

To give you an idea, the web of your release hand Thumb / Index fingers should be sitting about where the thick part of the head of your release is in that picture.

You need at least 1" shorter draw length IMO although it's just a guess, and a different release style to one of the more forward trigger designs that promote proper form and anchor in conjunction with a string loop.
The style you have just isn't going to work even if you get the draw length to the correct position unless maybe if you decided to try shooting off the string?
The barrel is too long and the trigger to far rearward.

Get that stuff corrected first and then you can work on the other stuff, grip, bow arm, draw arm position, shoulders, posture etc etc. Without proper fit there's no point in really discussing the rest because you can't get into the positions we will suggest.

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Yea id say its a little bit too long...your leaning back and your bwo arm is locked...and there is too much palm on the grip

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The same can be true if you get too short as well.

The problem with getting proper fit first is that you have no idea what proper is untill you get a few form issues fixed first.

They will most likely need to be addressed together.

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Exactly what Rob said. Way long. Shorten in 1/2 inch increments and get used to each as you go shorter. If you move iit all at once it'll really throw you and you'll more than likely end up saying, "these guys don't know what they're talking about". I'd say you're more than an inch, more like one and a half. Keep shooting with that front shoulder all jacked up in the air you'll have shoulder problems.

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what he said............

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Looks way to long to me. I'd shorten it an inch and try to bend my bow arm a little.

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Hey guys, I don't want to satrt an arguement, but the bow is a Martin so shortening it a full inch is as simple as swapping out to the next smaller module. This is a fairly easy change. Only shortening by 1/2" entails moving the string to the next shorter post on the cam and will cause a need to relocate his nocking point, kisser, and peep.

Although I didn't say it I agree with TFOX about trashing the kisser button. In over 35 years of shooting I've never had a use for one. It comes down to getting the bow adjusted for good repeatable anchors and relying on the peep.. Heck, if you get the bow fitted just right you don't even need the peep for such short shooting as when hunting.

I'm glad to see some of you guys saying to change one or two things at a time. I agree that there is so much going on in the pic that changing too much at a time might cause other form problems. I honestly think I'd start with the bow's drawlength and the release.

Barry

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about and inch too long

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looks to long to me maybe try shorter release

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DL looks about an inch maybe 3/4 too long, then shorten up the release and D loop, and maybe the grip is too tight, i can really tell cause of the pic, if you are just letting your fingers rest on the grip then your fine, if not lighten up alittle the grip, other that it looks good.