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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
not to change the subject but i had a GAME WARRDEN tell me if you see a stand close to a fence line or property and it's face the other guys landthen his more than likely hunting the woods he has the rights to hunt and also thje woods he does not . makes since to me .
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ORIGINAL: brucelanthier ORIGINAL: PreacherTony Quit duckin' the question, Bruce :D.....let's say your visiting your bestest HNI friend, PreacherTony;), and it happened ..... would you get the deer? ORIGINAL: arrow2512 Well i'll tell ya TONY i do hunt a fence line and my stand is 45 yards away from it, but it's facing the opposite of thefence and the deer do cross the trail runs 20 yards past my stand . I I shoot a buck 2 years ago and it turn and ran back the way it came i seen it drop 25 yards on te other guys land that i don't have the rights to hunt thereor to get the deer so i waited till it got dark to get my deer i know that may not be right but i shot it on the land i was hunting so i have no guilt getting my deer . |
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quote: "Risk" has nothing to do with it. If you do it, you are scum and a poacher - nothing else. Would some of those who voted yes please tell why being a conditional poacher is ok with them? [blockquote]q uote: I will not go where I do not have permission to be, so whether or not a property is considered "unimproved" is of no bearing to me.You have permission or you don't - this is as black or white as it gets. [/blockquote] These would be me:)- so: 1. I don't shoot. 2. I would not be setup that close to line of a property where I did not have pre arranged recovery rights. Like I said - black and white if you have any respect for personal property and the laws. Not situational in any way. Do it the right way and the hypotheticals don't happen. The fact that nearly 30% here say they would shoot across the line is why we prosecute anyone coming on our properties without prior agreement or contacting us 1st. Too many cases of "hunters" setting up on our lines(setups showing no intention of hunting their or the bordering state land),or over(even in our stands). Shooting deer on our property and when conforted trespassing, claiming they where only following a blood trail - eventhough tracking shows where the deer was hit. Steve |
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WHAT WOULD PREACHER TONY DO?
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RE: Ok Ethics Police ........2 Part Question .................................................
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy quote: "Risk" has nothing to do with it. If you do it, you are scum and a poacher - nothing else. Would some of those who voted yes please tell why being a conditional poacher is ok with them? [blockquote]q uote: I will not go where I do not have permission to be, so whether or not a property is considered "unimproved" is of no bearing to me.You have permission or you don't - this is as black or white as it gets. [/blockquote] These would be me:)- so: 1. I don't shoot. 2. I would not be setup that close to line of a property where I did not have pre arranged recovery rights. Like I said - black and white if you have any respect for personal property and the laws. Not situational in any way. Do it the right way and the hypotheticals don't happen. The fact that nearly 30% here say they would shoot across the line is why we prosecute anyone coming on our properties without prior agreement or contacting us 1st. Too many cases of "hunters" setting up on our lines(setups showing no intention of hunting their or the bordering state land),or over(even in our stands). Shooting deer on our property and when conforted trespassing, claiming they where only following a blood trail - eventhough tracking shows where the deer was hit. Steve |
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ORIGINAL: magicman54494 WHAT WOULD PREACHER TONY DO? He would most definitely get the deer he shot on his side of the property line - #2 He is now gonna stop talkin about himself in the 3rd person - #3 :D BTW Magic .... I like your style! :D |
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ORIGINAL: DropTine249 Lets be honest, everyone would shoot that deer and everyone would get that deer. Dont BS yourselves. Its a no-brainer, booner + 10yards away + you with a bow = you shooting. Hit deer, now dead + you seeing the deer - the trespassing signs = you going after the deer. Its like everyone else on here are angels. At least I tell the truth. Killing a "Booner" isn't THAT big of a deal to ALL of us. If you're going to intentionally poach a deer, why not hunt without a tag until you kill one? |
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These are some quotes from another thread again .......... Tresspassing is one of the sins that gives ALL hunters a blackeye. I would never consider doing it and would never condone it being done. Wouldn't even consider it. Tresspassing is trespassing, no matter the reason. The consequenses will be the same regardless. "Risk" has nothing to do with it. If you do it, you are scum and a poacher - nothing else. Would some of those who voted yes please tell why being a conditional poacher is ok with them? If you've ever been trespassed upon, you guys that would sneak onto the private would never do it. Trespassing is illegal, no matter what the circumstances are. Whoever the hell said "if the land was taken over for unreasonable reasons" is the reason why hunters get a bad name. What exactly is an unreasonable reason? The land is now private, end of story. This thread is pointless, it is advocating breaking a very significant law[>:] Ask permision or dont gripe when you get shot or put in jail. Im so sick of people treaspassing on my land, i have no sympathy for low life trespasser. Illegal is illegal. There is no shade of gray. Im very glad Texas has beefed up its trespassing a poaching laws. I will not go where I do not have permission to be, so whether or not a property is considered "unimproved" is of no bearing to me.You have permission or you don't - this is as black or white as it gets. Wash stepped up .... Steve kinda did ;)... how about the rest of you? |
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Steve ... you are brucing [:-]:D.... er I mean, ducking the last question ..... if you were visiting someone and the deer you shot ran on that dude's property .... would you get the buck But if it did, I would try more more time to get permission. If not given, I would suggest the owner recover because I would not. And bottom line, nothing goes to waste. And hopefully learn not to set up where it would happen again - go hunt elsewhere. I've been treated too many times with disrespect from "hunters" with a sense of entitlement to ever treat another landowner that way regardless of their attitude. Hunting is a recreational endeavor for us all - in spite of our passion for it,lets keep it fun and not go looking for conflict. Steve |
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I think some of you are missing the point...
There is no "I wouldn't put myself in this situation" option. The scenario is that you ARE in the situation. Regardless of what you would normally do, for the sake of the thread, you ARE in this position. What would you do? Tony's got me kind of curious now. |
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