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Tikka 30-06 02-20-2008 08:59 PM

3D Score?
 
Can anyone give me an idea of what you think a once a week 3D league shooter might score on a 30 target course (scored 5-8-10-12)? I'll explain later, just wondering if you could throw some numbers out. Much apppreciated.

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MN/Kyle 02-20-2008 09:16 PM

RE: 3D Score?
 

ORIGINAL: DropTine249

6,835,247....Just "throwing out a number".
funny.

I think he was obviously looking for 3d scores.:eek:

TEmbry 02-20-2008 09:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle


ORIGINAL: DropTine249

6,835,247....Just "throwing out a number".
funny.

I think he was obviously looking for 3d scores.:eek:
x2.

Greg / MO 02-20-2008 09:20 PM

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250

TFOX 02-20-2008 09:20 PM

RE: 3D Score?
 
Too many variables,shooter,class,range etc.


When I was at my best,I would not be happy with anything below even, on a course that had 12 rings,even being all 10's.(300) I will say though,there were many days I came home not happy.:eek::D

I was a 280 to 290 shooter on a course that did not have 12 rings and I shot open class.

MO_Bowhnter 02-20-2008 09:25 PM

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30 targets with 12's scored I would say a good score would be 270 or better.

Tikka 30-06 02-20-2008 09:30 PM

RE: 3D Score?
 
Ok so I little lower than TFOX's estimate since he is an excellent shooter! The reason I'm asking is because I was checking out the league averages at the range today. Personally, my second time shooting 3D, I shot a 216 so I wanted to compare that. But, I was really suprised at the scores for the past few weeks in this little league. The were a ton in the 320's with some two man teams at almost 650. The league average was something like 260-270. Now, I know with a little practice 260 is more than do-able for me. But, no way I'm shooting 320-330. Now mind you this is only a 25 yard range with the longest diagonal shots being maybe 35 yards. The yardages aren't marked but they are fairly easy to figure just by knowing this. Now, I am pretty sure these were not handicapped scores but now that I think about it, thats some pretty damn scores. You think it's possible?

TFOX 02-20-2008 09:53 PM

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Those scores are completely doable within what you have given us as the range setup.I never reached the level to be able to shoot 20 - 30 up (30 up is getting into national level good on any course)on any course but was able to shoot up scores on a regular basis,WHEN I PEAKED.I wasn't peaked for very long before I burnt out.


Some simple basics and you can achieve your goal VERY EASILY.When I started out,my goal was 270 from the hunter stake.I surpassed that to about a 280 then I jumped classes but really wasn't any better for a while.I just hit a plateau that I thought was impossible to better.Then a coach gave me some pointers,I learned a few things about equipment,form and fit AND I started learning back tension and I really started to get better but the hard work really wore me down and I burnt out.

TFOX 02-20-2008 09:56 PM

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Go over and check out some of the scores from the ASA on ranges outside with low corner 12's with a maximum of 45 yards on the open shooters.Granted those will be 40 target courses but they are also outside in the elements at much longer distances.

TFOX 02-20-2008 10:00 PM

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I checked the scores

open A 410
open B 417
open c 411
semi pro 411


The pros walked off at 424 before their shootdown round.

This is outside under MUCH tougher conditions with 40 targets.

Rick James 02-20-2008 10:05 PM

RE: 3D Score?
 
I'll assume your talking hunter class. Around here, the weekend warriors that are good shooters but don't take it too seriously in HC will average 280-285 counting center 11's on a 30 target course.

ArrowMike 02-20-2008 10:18 PM

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Don’t get your self down, the scores will come with time and practice. By time your league is over you should see an improvement. 3-d is about 3 things- shooting, judging distance and knowing your target. You need all 3 to be really good at it. Judging distance and knowing your targets scoring rings are things you can do any were at any time. If you need shooting help find a mentor or coach they can help you over the rough spots.
Set your self reasonable goals to shoot for. Like when I started shooting 3-Ds my 1st goal was to get all kill shots (8 or higher) it took a while.

Double Creek 02-21-2008 05:38 AM

RE: 3D Score?
 
The best shooters at our local clubs will shoot even, and sometimes up a few points... That's targets out to 40-45 yds...

With the range you described, I think most good shooters would be even and your top dogs would be up points....330 sounds a little high to me, that's 15 twelves....

sipps 02-21-2008 05:47 AM

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On a 30 taget 3d i shot 247 with iron sides. And no 12 rings just 10, 8,5, 0

NChunterman 02-21-2008 06:25 AM

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I shot my first 3-D shoot in 13+ years last weekend with GMMAT. Hunter class, 30 yard max, 20 targets, I shot a 185 if Jeff done the math right:Dj/k. What hampered me most was not knowing the targets that well. I'm using excellent binos, but on some targets I still couldn't tell where the 12 was (not that it would have helped) but I would have felt more comfortable knowing exactly where to aim. I'm doing it totally for fun, exact same setup as what I hunt with, so I don't consider my 185tobad. If Ikeep it up through outthe summer I hope to avg. in the 195-200 range.

kickin_buck 02-21-2008 06:25 AM

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Depends on how long you have been shooting 3D and at what kind of yardage. If you averaged an 8 for each target (a kill shot) you have a 240. If it is like most in-door 3D leagues I have been in, then you are shooting 20 yards and should be shooting near 300.

Tikka 30-06 02-21-2008 11:58 AM

RE: 3D Score?
 
Do you guys mean even as in all 8's or all 10's?

kickin_buck 02-21-2008 12:02 PM

RE: 3D Score?
 
Even is all 10's. You go up buy shooting 11's or 12's, or 14's, depending if you are shooting ASA or IBO rules.

SwampCollie 02-21-2008 12:31 PM

RE: 3D Score?
 
That depends how many weeks he has been doing it for.

I asked the guy who owns the shop I now shoot for what my personal goal should be the first time I went out to shoot 3D.... his reply was "Come back with all your arrows."

I shoot two a month and my goal is to stay above 265, we score 5-8-10-11. The guys who win hunter class typically shoot between 295 and 305. My personal best is 292. And my worst was a 262. I've been shooting a bow for about 9 years, but this will be my third summer shooting 3D.

I'd say that if you are shooting every single week, and you are a good shot, but still fairly average (like me), your average should be in the 270s.

Tikka 30-06 02-21-2008 08:52 PM

RE: 3D Score?
 
Thanks Collie, thats pretty reassuring! I have no doubt in my mind that 250-270 range is very do-able for me with some practice. Like I said, this was only my second time shooting 3D and basically my first time shooting elevation repeatedly. I was happy with my score on the first ten targets (like 85-86 or so?) but the last 15 targets from an elevation really killed my score. Guess I better get to work before the next league starts, I'm hoping to be good enough to hop in! Thanks a ton guys

Matt/TN 02-21-2008 09:05 PM

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My first two outdoor 3d's were about what I expected score wise for me. My outdoor 3d schedule is about to start up full force and I'm dedicating the shoots for "learning" I'll be taking a rangefinder with me, picking a yardage, sticking to that yardage, shooting, and then range it with a rangefinder to see how I judged it. I'm VERY competitive, I absolutely WON'T continue doing something unless I'm decent at it. That's what happened to football, baseball, basketball (which I shouldn't have given up), and countless other things. I feel that I have the "potential" to be a great shooter, so I'm running with it. I've put a "dead line" on my shooting, atleast competitvely, (believe me it's a lengthy deadline). I've been at this pretty hard for 4-6 months now, and some doors are definately starting to open up. Lets see how far I can run with it.

Tikka 30-06 02-21-2008 09:45 PM

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Hopefully I can get to that same point, Matt. Money is short right now but I should have at least enough coming in soon to get a new bow (YESS!!) and still pay for gas[:@]. I plan on setting this thing up mainly for targets, getting a range membership and talking my buddies into getting one to. I will practice, practice, and practice a little more and eventually try to talk a family friend (excellent shooter) into a little coaching. I feel that I have some potential and this is something I really want to succeed in. With enough effort and help from you guys:D, hopefully I can be somewhat successful. Wish me luck, I'm gonna need it!

TFOX 02-21-2008 10:20 PM

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A good coach is worth more than a good bow.;)

Don't get caught in the trap of trying to buy points,MANY hunters and 3-d shooters alike try this method and it seems to be a quick fix for many at first but they all will fall back to reality soon enough.Confidence will help your shooting as well as anything and most times when we buy something new,our confidence and expectations soar.Problems is it crashes about as quick and off we go to get the latest and greatest.


Point being,learn the basics first and foremost.

With all that out of the way,good equipment is imperative to good shooting but the "best" is not needed,just good DEPENDABLE equipment is all that is needed.

A good coach can help you figure out what is best for YOU.


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