More Bucks or More Does?
 

Here's one you're gonna think is crazy.....but it is in-line with the EAB thread.

Do the hunters in your state kill more bucks or more does every season?

Ya think there "might" be a reason why people in some states would definitely be in favor of the EAB program?;)

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If this sounds like a dumb question.........FYI.....in NC....we kill more bucks than does, every year.

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In Missouri there were 302,688 deer harvested: Bucks 121,038 Buttons 41,738 Doe 139,912

So there were more bucks taken if you figure in the Buttons, but I doubt an EAB system would change that number much.

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wall....

Figure in how many people only took ONE deer.......and then tell me if you think it wouldn't at LEAST help. How many people who only took one deer.....took a buck?;)

What you'd do in a state like mine is.......ASSURE that there wouldn't be more bucks taken than does.

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MI more bucks

If you do a quick study, some of the best location states take a higher % of their herd than most. AKA more does than bucks;)

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Almost twice as many bucks killed in OK as there are does killed every year...

Of course

If they'd move the gun seasons out of the rut...:D:D:D

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more bucks are taken but there are way more does than bucks here in Rhode Island

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No way to check that stat GMMATT, would be interesting to know though.

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Sure there is. Each hunter checks in his kill each time, doesn't he? He has a tag No. he reports what he kills (sex.....antlered or not.....BB) and also the number he kills is recorded. They could do it in a second on an excel spreadsheet or any program that would query.

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More doe are shot here than bucks... I looked for some numbers real quick but was unsuccessful... I will search some more later.

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Meant there was no way for me to answer that question from the stats they make available.

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You can buy multiple doe tags here but only one buck tag. I would bet more does hit the ground here. We don't have to check in deer here. You tag it in the field and take it home.

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Understood, Wall....my bad.;)

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Chris you can shoot UNLIMITED DOES in NC on private lands......and we phone in our kills.....and we have a 2 buck limit.

STILL we kill more bucks than does.[:@]

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It's that stupid "restricted" tag that we have. You can shoot a spike and still have another buck tag to use, as long as the next one has at least 4 points on one side. So there's no reason to pass on the young bucks because you've still got another buck tag in case a nice mature buck comes along later in the season. The problem is, because of the system, that mature buck is hardly ever seen because he was killed as a 1.5 year old.

The restricted tag isn't bad because it encourages people to shoot too many bucks. Heck, most 2nd buck tags go unfilled. The restricted tag is bad because it encourages people to shoot too many YOUNG bucks.

In Michigan, too many guys (gun hunters especially - sorry but its true) would rather shoot a 1.5 year old buck than a mature doe - just to tell the guys at work they filled their buck tag for the 10th year in a row. It's a badge of honor. Killing does is for sissy's around here. It's too bad, but that's the way it is. It's starting to change SLOWLY.

If we only had one buck tag, guys would think long and hard before blasting the first 1.5 year old basket rack that walks up on their bait pile: "Do I REALLY want to waste my only buck tag on this forkorn? Naw, I'll let it walk and wait for a bigger one..." You get enough guys thinking this way, and Michigan could be just as good as Illinois someday.

As longas the two buck system exists, in which there there is no reason to pass young bucks, we'll be forever known as the spike and forkhorn capital of the USA.

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I'm almost positive, we used to kill more bucks than does, but with the new regs the past 5-6 years that has swapped.

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Kinda interesting to look at.

2006 Minnesota Harvest (all types):

Adult Male: 105,769
Fawn Male:32,780
Adult Female: 105,434
Fawn Female: 26,795

Bucks: 138,549
Does: 132,229


More bucks taken in MN but a large portion of that is attributed to button bucks. EAB wouldnt eliminate the taking of these deer however as any buck with less than 3 inches of antler is registered as anterless.

Very interesting numbers, especially the number of buck fawns that never see their first rack.

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Since Michigan is plagued by severe mental retardation at the state level, there is NO registration of any kind, so they have NO way of knowing anything about the harvest. But, the number of doe tags is very limited. So, way more bucks than does, and two bucks each at that!

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Im gonna say more does are actually killed, but if you count in the amount of bucks that are mortally wounded and not found they would be about the same bc it seems out here that we get alot of people wounding and not recovering their deer:eek:

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Are your nub bucks counted as a buck or antlerless(doe)? In WI they count as an antlerless not a buck.

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In Pa, all you have to do after a kill is mail in a Deer Kill Card. I send them in without fail, but I wonder how many hunters don't?[:@]In my hunting area (5D)we should have EAB! Their goal is to cut deer numbers, so EAB would make hunters take more doe to get a chance at a buck. This, along with the AR'swould also help the age structureof the bucks.;)

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i would say more bucks are killed in Illinois than does....but with the ignorant check in system we now have who knows

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i dont think marylands facts would be 100 % correct... hell i dont think it would be 80 percent correct..... to many ways 2 cheat on checkin them in now that all we have to do is call in.....if u dont kill a buck come doe season all a guy has to do is kill a doe call it in as a BUCK then the next day kill another doe!....an thats jus for us region a fellas... u could shoot all u want up here an call it in sayin u shoot them in region B an nver step foot in the region....