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buttonbuckmaster 02-13-2008 11:02 AM

When quality doesn't matter
 
We've read thread after thread about buying the most expensive bow, accesories, camo, cameras, etc that you can afford. Nothing wrong with that IMO, but when is good enough....good enough? What do you cheap out on in regards to hunting equipment/accessories? I go cheap on a few things.

1) Binos-I'm not a big binocular guy, I have a pair of cheap 10X50's I've had over 20 years that still work. I can't see spending $400 on them for what I use them for and how little they get used.

2) Trail cameras- had one stolen, bought a $50 digital one, works well enough and I won't cry if it gets swiped.

3) Flashlights- I lose too many of them. Guilty as charged.:(

4) Camo- I have a hodge podge of clearance items. If its clean and it fits, I'll wear it.

Maybe I'm just cheap.

Siman08/OH 02-13-2008 11:08 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
Ibuy what i can, some of my stuff is top of the line and some is from walmart....i just make the best of it :DIts all about fun right? [8D]

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Sliverflicker 02-13-2008 11:09 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
Hay buttonbuck look at my signature.

MO_Hoyt 02-13-2008 11:10 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
ive skimped out on blinds and broadheads before. iv learned my lesson on that deal.
bowhunting whitetails is my addiction. i buy the best huntinequipment i can afford.

GMMAT 02-13-2008 11:18 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
I think I paid about $160 for the trailcam I have. I'd skimp in this area in a minute.

Of some mentioned.....I never knew I had poor flashlights until I held a good one. Ask Brknarrow if we'd have found his doe with his light;). I have (probably) $600-$700 tied up in a toolbox......with nothing in it but spotlights, flashlights, radios and tracking gear. It's an insurance policy......and I've used it.

Most things....I figure you get what you pay for. I'd likely "skimp" if I was taking a chance something might get stolen.

HuntinGUS 02-13-2008 11:19 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
I don't think quaility always = cost. There is a such thing as an expensive peice of crap.

I but whatever camo is on sale. I think it's overrated really. I try to conceal myself as bes as I can and control movement.....much cheaper.;)

Bino's: I gave $60 for APEX 8x.....rarely use them.

Trail cameras: I only have one......cost $50 when I bought it about 5 years ago. I might buy an el-cheapo digital this year.

My bow is 6 years old......I think. Paid $400.00 for it new.





Rob/PA Bowyer 02-13-2008 11:21 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
I don't skimp. If I want it, I get it. I'm realistic but rarely if ever, cheap.;)

HNI_Christine 02-13-2008 11:28 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
I prefer 'frugal' over 'cheap'.

Back when I had binocs, I had a pair of Steiner Predators. (I ran over them with my truck and they survived just fine) I won a pair of Swarovski's (sp?) but I sold them on ebay. I'm not carrying around a pair of 800.00 binocs for whitetails in IL.

Back when I had a trail cam, I had a camtrakker. (worth every penny, but I did use a ridiculous amount of chain and locks when it was in the woods)

I use a hodge-podge of flashlights. Usually maglites. I carry the baby ones for hunting and keep a big one in the truck. (they're not just flash lights, you can kill stuff with them... trust me on this.)

For camo, I wear everything from Cabela's bargain cave camo sweat pants to a Scentlok fleece jacket and pants.

I use a Summit climber because it's a good stand at areasonable price. (and it mostly survived being run over by my truck)

I use Muzzy broadheads because they are good and cheap.

virginiashadow 02-13-2008 11:30 AM

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I don't need much other than an accurate bow(regardless of brand), some good arrows, and a climbing treestand....that is it. Bargain gloves, hats, whatever. I cannot bring myself to buy $200 pairs of overalls because they are scent lok or anything.

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MNpurple 02-13-2008 11:32 AM

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Boots top this list for me. I've bought $50-$300 (Danners, Lacrose, Mendle, Cabelas, etc)pairs of boots and always get the same result, they last maybe 2 seasons of very hard use and that is it no matter how I care for them. It frustrating paying that much for something that just doesnt seem to last so I top out at about the most comfortable $100 pair I can find now.

WHo know maybe my feet are just misshapen?



txjourneyman 02-13-2008 11:32 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 

ORIGINAL: HNI_Christine

I prefer 'frugal' over 'cheap'.

Back when I had binocs, I had a pair of Steiner Predators. (I ran over them with my truck and they survived just fine) I won a pair of Swarovski's (sp?) but I sold them on ebay. I'm not carrying around a pair of 800.00 binocs for whitetails in IL.

Back when I had a trail cam, I had a camtrakker. (worth every penny, but I did use a ridiculous amount of chain and locks when it was in the woods)

I use a hodge-podge of flashlights. Usually maglites. I carry the baby ones for hunting and keep a big one in the truck. (they're not just flash lights, you can kill stuff with them... trust me on this.)

For camo, I wear everything from Cabela's bargain cave camo sweat pants to a Scentlok fleece jacket and pants.

I use a Summit climber because it's a good stand at areasonable price. (and it mostly survived being run over by my truck)

I use Muzzy broadheads because they are good and cheap.
Please, if we ever hunt together, remind me not to place anything near your truck! LOL:D

Germ 02-13-2008 11:34 AM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 

1) Binos-I'm not a big binocular guy, I have a pair of cheap 10X50's I've had over 20 years that still work. I can't see spending $400 on them for what I use them for and how little they get used.
I will say this, until you have used a great pair of binos, one does not know. I felt the same way until I used a pair of Swarkoski.

I am a product of my GrandFather. I am a tight wad on everything execpt hunting gear. A quote from Grandpa
"Jr by the best, or you will always wish you had"


PaBowhunter29 02-13-2008 11:35 AM

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1) binos are nikon team realtree 10x25, get them has an christmas gift 3 years go ( they were $100 ) and the eye piece broke this year so i super glued it back on. they work great too i felt naked that day with out them.

2)i have a wildview trailcam$50 at walmart

3) flashlight a mini mag. light ( i try not use it, any light when going in the woods )
4) i have 1 set of cabelas legacy fleece, realtree bid and pants and fleece from walmart, and two sets of long johns.

my bow was $250, sights $100, rest free thank you mobow, just put a sts on it $40, and my arrows are cabelas stalker extreme with blazers $65 ( they were strong made by easton ) and my broadheads are slick tricks

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GMMAT 02-13-2008 11:43 AM

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so I dont see spending $200 on a DB as a needed expense.
LOL....I wish!

NY/Al 02-13-2008 11:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: DropTine249

Thanks MN..now Im going to save alot of money that I WOULD have spent on lunch....
Yeah no kiddin...[:'(]

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TEmbry 02-13-2008 12:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: DropTine249

GMMAT, did you buy a DB because of the space and window layout for filming ?

That is the ONLY reason I would spend the $$ on a blind with that layout. OTher than that, my Ameristep works just fine.
He probably said i wish because the Matrix 360s and Dark Horses fetch 400 bucks, not 200. I really, really want a Matrix 360, but like you i value my money too much to dish out that much dough right now.

As far as the bow case goes, I too use a cheap Plano. But now must buy a second case for my trip this fall. If one plans to travel on a plane to hunt anytime in the future, go ahead and get the expensive case. Now ill have both.[&:]

MO_Hoyt 02-13-2008 12:08 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
im wantin the DB, just so i can shoot yotes with my bow. i hate the idea of shooting through a net, but i been busted so many times in treestands and in blinds, pullig my bow back on a yote @ 20 yards.

GR8atta2d 02-13-2008 12:13 PM

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As for the binocs..I use them alot ..I've tried for years to save money on them. I kidded my cousin unmercifully when he spent $300 dollars on a pair and we looked through each and saw no visible difference between his and my $50 dollar ones. Yes that day we compared them was something..a pretty day clear, sunny and warm.
Most whitetail mornings are neither bright, clear or warm...I spent more replacing those cheapy's then he has invested..and THEN I still got the $300 dollar pair! Yeah he was the fool...;)

Good binocs are worth the money..same can be said for MOST things.

Sliverflicker 02-13-2008 12:51 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 

ORIGINAL: HNI_Christine

I prefer 'frugal' over 'cheap'.

Back when I had binocs, I had a pair of Steiner Predators. (I ran over them with my truck and they survived just fine) I won a pair of Swarovski's (sp?) but I sold them on ebay. I'm not carrying around a pair of 800.00 binocs for whitetails in IL.

Back when I had a trail cam, I had a camtrakker. (worth every penny, but I did use a ridiculous amount of chain and locks when it was in the woods)

I use a hodge-podge of flashlights. Usually maglites. I carry the baby ones for hunting and keep a big one in the truck. (they're not just flash lights, you can kill stuff with them... trust me on this.)

For camo, I wear everything from Cabela's bargain cave camo sweat pants to a Scentlok fleece jacket and pants.

I use a Summit climber because it's a good stand at areasonable price. (and it mostly survived being run over by my truck)

I use Muzzy broadheads because they are good and cheap.
You will never catch me standing around you truck

Sliverflicker 02-13-2008 01:01 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 

ORIGINAL: MNpurple

Boots top this list for me. I've bought $50-$300 (Danners, Lacrose, Mendle, Cabelas, etc)pairs of boots and always get the same result, they last maybe 2 seasons of very hard use and that is it no matter how I care for them. It frustrating paying that much for something that just doesnt seem to last so I top out at about the most comfortable $100 pair I can find now.

WHo know maybe my feet are just misshapen?


Oh Hell no , say it aint so, I have killed bears thats claws were not that long. Thats a 5 jaw dropper

buttonbuckmaster 02-13-2008 01:03 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
Germ, I honestly think my binos are "good enough". Its not that I can't afford better binos, I just don't think I need them. I don't carry bino's to the stand (never have) and the truck ones take a beating. I clean them when they need it and have never regretted spending $35 for them in 1987.:DI didn't intend to start a "who's the cheapest on HNI" thread.;)My point was.....where do you draw the line on certain items? I hit my threshold on BH's last year. $30 for 3 is the most I'm paying from now on, and I still think I need my head checked for paying that much.

HNI_Christine 02-13-2008 01:32 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
Sheesh, I accidently run over two things in five years and you guys are scared?;)

It's the things I run over on purpose that should scare you. There's a reason there's a skull and crossbones on the front of my truck. (I did stop just short of putting "You can run but you'll just die tired" on my bug guard.) [8D]

Hijack over.. for now.

Washington Hunter 02-13-2008 02:24 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
Personally I'd rather make the investment up front so that down the line I won't be replacing something because my "inexpensive" [read; cheap] item broke, failed, etc.

I've got the $800 bow.

I've got two of the $400 blinds. (Though I didn't pay full price for either.)

I've got the $70 release.

I've got the $200 range finder.

If and when I travel with my bow, I'll have the $200 SKB case.

Does it necessarily help me kill animals any better? Not really.

Am I comfortable in knowing that I've got quality equipment that likely won't fail on me in the field? Yup.

Just my opinion.

huntingson 02-13-2008 02:34 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


1) Binos-I'm not a big binocular guy, I have a pair of cheap 10X50's I've had over 20 years that still work. I can't see spending $400 on them for what I use them for and how little they get used.
I will say this, until you have used a great pair of binos, one does not know. I felt the same way until I used a pair of Swarkoski.

I am a product of my GrandFather. I am a tight wad on everything execpt hunting gear. A quote from Grandpa
"Jr by the best, or you will always wish you had"
My father's quote is "If you buy the best, then you only cry once."

However, "best" and "most expensive" are not always the same thing;)

MeanV2 02-13-2008 03:12 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

I don't skimp. If I want it, I get it. I'm realistic but rarely if ever, cheap.;)
That's my Policy!! I think you get what you pay for, and many times buying cheap costs you more in the long run.

Dan

rybohunter 02-13-2008 03:27 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 
I'm mid range. I try to get clothes cheap. Binos low to mid range works fine. Rests I am probably the cheapest on. $20 TM hunter baby! Everything else, mid range and looking for deals.

Targets....I'm REAL cheap on those. Arrows depending on perspective I'm cheap. I didn't pay a whole lot for the GT's I use, but they are a good arrow. Never felt like shelling out for ACC's or FMJ's or anything.

Germ 02-13-2008 03:45 PM

RE: When quality doesn't matter
 

ORIGINAL: buttonbuckmaster

Germ, I honestly think my binos are "good enough". Its not that I can't afford better binos, I just don't think I need them. I don't carry bino's to the stand (never have) and the truck ones take a beating. I clean them when they need it and have never regretted spending $35 for them in 1987.:DI didn't intend to start a "who's the cheapest on HNI" thread.;)My point was.....where do you draw the line on certain items? I hit my threshold on BH's last year. $30 for 3 is the most I'm paying from now on, and I still think I need my head checked for paying that much.
I draw the line on other things:D Like cars, I have yet to pay over 10,000 for one for me. I never buy new.
BTW I paid a great price for mine(350.00 bucks), but I would shell out 1000.00 for them now. One time thing, if I do not loose them.
I agree with you 100%, i am just a tight wad in other areas.

For me 30.00 for three heads is just about it. I see rage now wants 39.99. Montecs are looking good again.



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