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Well the last good bow hunting rag has finally bit the dust.

Mine came yesterday,what a joke 19 of the first 30 pages are full page adds,thats not even counting the 1/2 and 1/4 page ones on those few pages that are left. A 70 page magazine that won't take a mornings crap to read.;)
I know it cost money to publish a magazine but this is B.S. I'm done ,this is my last subscription. Its a real shame to see what greed is doing to hunting in general. [:o]

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I remember way back when Field & Stream and Outdoor Life were good magazines. As a youngster, I looked forward to them coming in the mail. Lots of great stories and good reading. For some reason I can't recall, my wife just got a "complimentary" subscription to Field & Stream. I hadn't seen a copy in years. This punypublication was about 1/3 asthick as I remember them being, 70 percent ads and from my point of view, 30 percent biased opinions. It doesn't even qualify to occupya space in the magazine rack by the toilet.

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Another thing.... I haven't looked at any of the current popular mags out there, but are they as chocked full of "male enhancement" ads as the recent issues of Field & Stream are? What the heck's up with that anyway? I want to read informational articles on hunting and fishing, not see a pic of "Smilin' Bob" with his "big new swing" in life! Jeez.[:@]

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I used to buy those magazines when I first started hunting and they would fill me with anticiption. Over the years I have noticed the same articles appearing over and over, ad naseum. I rarely buy any hunting magazines these days unless something just sticks out.

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Deer&Deer Hunting is about the only good hunting magazine around these days.

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I know, its a shame Jim. I have almost all the issues going back to when it started except some from the last few years. To tell you the truth, it started going down hill when theystopped putting the average Joe's story in it quite awhile back,Only reason I still pick one up these days is to see what John "Maggie" McGee is up to. I dont know if John still does any seminars, but if he does, and you get a chancs to see any of his home movies dont pass it up, man what a hoot he is.

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This is pretty funny!, and true!

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I hope this is true. I received my first two issues a little while back and read them cover to cover. So far....so good.

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I've noticed over the years (I've been reading hunting/fishing mags since I was 11), that I'm starting to read articles on similar topics that have already been covered over they years (they're just rewording how they present it). I do like my Bowhunting mag, and Field and Stream for their photography, but maybe I'll give deer and deer hunting a try as it seems many of you have a lot of good things to say about it.

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If Iam in the mood for one of these mags I will go to walmart or some were and preview it first otherwise I have been dissatisfied to often by my subscription

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I still enjoy Bowhunter Mag. Sure, there are a lot of advertisements, but I don't have to read them. Deer & Deer Hunter is pretty good as well.

I think greed is a good thing. If it wasn't for greed there would be a lot of us wouldn't have a job;)

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Yep, thats the best part of the whole magazine! I quit getting it as well last year. I was so sick of the advertising myself. All you seen was Chuck Adams uses this, Chuck Adams uses that, etc! Chuck Adams and the Bowhunter Magazine are all about the money, not hunting anymore! Its a shame, it was a kick but magazine before all the advertising and cliques got involved! Money talks!!

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I just went into my library (bathroom) and got one May/June 2005 issue. Out of 80 pages, 31 1/2 are hunting related and one of them was on how to cook a Carp, thats 48 1/2 pages of advertisement

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This is an e-mail that I sent to both OL & F&S. I never got a response.
I am so glad thatOutdoor Lifedecided to run all those male enhancement ads. Now when I go fishing all I need to bring is a reel. I attach it to "that certain part of my male anatomy" and i'm good to go. Another "huge" advantage is my girlfriend is suddenly "longs" to go fishing with me!!! Unfortunately Idont think it is appropriate for children or iseven topic related. If these types of ads continue you will "increasingly inch" me to cancel my subscription. Please "extend" some courtesy to yourreaders with children. [/align][/align]

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<------ hey bawana why don't you like long haired freaky people?

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I love'em,....there was a time I was one.[:-] Its from a song " Signs"

Try this!;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLm3HMG8IhM&feature=related

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Magic..are you kidding.. If you are sitting on a pile of un-used "Posted" signs and think "the man" is out to get you...Jim may just adopt you!! He was a long haired freaky person ..it's just with age the hair left..he's still freaky though.


You know I'm kiddin ya Jim
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I know your kidding , I still have my hair..

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I began subscribing to Deer and Deer Hunting back when it was Stumpsitters and was in newspaper format. I still enjoy it, although its gone downhill a little over the past couple of years.

I dropped Bowhunter over 5 years ago, and OL and F&S even before that.

If you tore out all the ads and rehashed articles that are merely a repeat of the same info of several months before, you'd have a 4 or 5 page magazine.

With the amount and quality of information, both technical and hunting related that one can garner from the web these days, publications are on the way out.

This site is a good example of how technical information, hunting experiences, success stories, and practical or anecdotal information can be shared.

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that video was too funny. I laughed until I had tears.

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I'm glad you enjoyed it, we could use a few more laughs around here.But these technological questions about the latest in atom smashers and other proton powered deer destroyers seem to be drawing the crowds lately.;)

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I know better than to get involved here but I have to correct something. The ratio of ads to editorial (stories, columns and features) is 50/50 in Bowhunter Magazine and it's always been that way, at least as long as there were enough companies to buy ads. For every page of advertising sold there is a page of editorial. That's the way the business works.

Now, in our case one thing makes a noticeable difference. In what is called the editorial "well," those pages with the feature articles, you won't see any ads at all. We're one of the only, if not the only, magazine that does that. Consequently, it pushes ads to the other parts of the magazine, most commonly the front. That might make it seem like more ads per page but it's not. I specifically counted the last two issues and that ratio hasn't changed.

I'm just a field editor so I don't have control over content or anything else that goes in the magazine but those are the facts about advertising. I constantly see posters complain about it getting worse over the years but it hasn't. Fact is, no media, whether it's TV, radio, magazines or websites can survive without advertising and the truth is none of us would be the bowhunters we are today without advertising.

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I get 3 mags, deer and deer hunting, bow and arrow and michigan sportsman. D&DH is by far the best.

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The only one i like on a cosistent basis is Quality Whitetails. And i am probably opening up a can of worms here, because OMGits QDMA's mag,but it has very good info on deer behavoir and new studies that have been released. It also has great insight on how to properly manage a healthy heard. All of this interests me since i have decided to make Wildlife Management and Research my career. Deer&Deer hunting also has some of this with more hunting techniques mixed in.

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So are you saying the last two issuse were the worst or the standard?
I have been aroundlong before the Roger Rothar Incident.When M.R. James's story of the incident stated hewould withhold judgment until the case ended. The case must still be in litagation because "bowhunter never printed the results.
I loved your magazine and I miss Paul Schafer,Gene & Barry Wensel and others whom heart was in bowhunting and whose wallets were in other places. The mating of money & hunting has been a win win for your industry but in return I feel it also will be the death of it.

Best wishes with your job,and feel free to PM if you'ld like,Thanks for the effort,Jim

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Yep...your right Curt Wells,I could never have shot that 6-Point Buck with my Bow if I hadn't read that advertisement about Enzite,Viagra and Smiling Bob with his male enchancement adds! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:[&:]LMAO ;)


Almost all the Deer Hunting magazines have way too many adds in them,and like most have stated here the back of the magazine is starting to look like the adds in a Playboy magazine!One of the best Hunting magazines out today is Deer & Deer Hunting,they also have a Spring magazine called Turkey & Turkey Hunting that has lots of good information,another magazine I like for reading is Racks.One magazine I don't intend to buy any more is North American Whitetail magazine...their issues cost around $10.00 to $12.00 and that is way too expensive for what little articles they have!

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I guess I have to explain myself. Unless you have been living in a mountain wilderness, built your own self-bow and taught yourself everything you know about bowhunting equipment and bowhunting, you had to benefit from advertising. You had to learn about the latest, greatest bow, arrow or broadhead somewhere. You had to learn how to call or decoy deer, turkeys and elk from somewhere and if you hunt outside your county you probably learned about that somewhere too. That "somewhere" was likely a magazine, television show, video, website, 3-D tournament or somewhere that was supported, directly or indirectly, by advertising. Even if you learned from a realative or friend, they learned from somewhere. That is what I meant and it applies to me as well as every modern bowhunter.

bwanajim, I agree with your sentiments about money and this industry. It's an unstoppable train when land prices skyrocket in the name of big bucks, but that's not good for magazines or advertisers at all. The more people who are pushed out of bowhunting because of a lack of a place to hunt the fewer people will need to read about bowhunting or buy a new bow. I don't know the answer to that problem.

Lastly, you have not and will not see ED ads in Bowhunter Magazine as long as Dwight Schuh is the editor.

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The only magazine I buy anymore is Bowhunter, mainly because of the way Dwight Schuh does things. Granted there are ads all over the place, but its the only rag I've found that doesn't repeat its stories over and over. In other magazines I'll come across full paragraphs that I had read in an article published by the same magazine three years previously.

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Just re-read the back issues!