What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
#91
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
In all honesty, Atlas....Rob and I had this very discussion a few months ago....and I'd never tried it (TFOX was in on that one, too). Don't flatter yourself. I needed to see for me.
In all honesty, Atlas....Rob and I had this very discussion a few months ago....and I'd never tried it (TFOX was in on that one, too). Don't flatter yourself. I needed to see for me.
It IS an unfortunate fact that there are those who will jump at any opportunity to tryto discredit another forum member. I had it happen to me when I shot at two deer in one day, this past fall. I know exactly what you're talking about.
#92
RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
Good post Atlas!! Good info. To many times people do blame there equipment or something ridiculous. A person has to know how to use there equipment properly. Many times too when there bows are tuned a person does just plain old miss's also, some people have a tough time excepting the fact that they screwed up by peaking or dropping there bow arm or something else!
#93
RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
meaning that after you saw my pics and read my write up you STILL didn't believe it..........meaning you didn't believe me.
I'm not going to argue with you about this. Just don't put words in my mouth. Please.
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Good post Atlas!! Good info. To many times people do blame there equipment or something ridiculous. A person has to know how to use there equipment properly. Many times too when there bows are tuned a person does just plain old miss's also, some people have a tough time excepting the fact that they screwed up by peaking or dropping there bow arm or something else!
Good post Atlas!! Good info. To many times people do blame there equipment or something ridiculous. A person has to know how to use there equipment properly. Many times too when there bows are tuned a person does just plain old miss's also, some people have a tough time excepting the fact that they screwed up by peaking or dropping there bow arm or something else!
That's what this is all about..........I see guys on here every day worryingaboutPERFECT form and stressing over the minutia of archery and it's execution...........as if any even slight deviation from excellence will be catastrophic.What I tried toshow is a regular guy shooting nothing special should still not be missing by feet or worse even in extreme cases of bad form...........so maybe some guys will try this for themselves and realizethat tiny flaws areprobably not the cause of themajor problems they are seeing...........in other words, if you go shootsome arrows in your yard and kill the neighbors cat,lose 3 arrows and knock out the power on your block.........it's probably a little more then your grip pressure
#95
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
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Didn't call anyone a liar, though. I said what I said.....I was skeptical.
Didn't call anyone a liar, though. I said what I said.....I was skeptical.
No big deal..........I'm sure you're not the only one. I invite everyone to prove it to themselves like you did. I didn't set out to prove anything here..........frankly I did it for fun. I have done this tons of times before so the results were no shock to me.
I'm not going to argue with you about this. Just don't put words in my mouth. Please.
I didn't realize we were arguing.............I have no problem with whatyou said..........I knew some would question the results andthat's ok.
#96
RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
Instead of a pissing contest I would simply suggest for everyone who bowhunts a lot to try shooting under less than ideal conditions(I'm sure many do), whether it be your stance, your grip, odd angles, etc. If for no other reason than to see the effects (big or small) created bythedifferent situations on your equipment and your ability to put an arrow where you need to.
I thinkthat most experienced shooters will find similiar results to Atlas especially when thetarget ranges are near normal bowhunting ranges (20 yards or less). We all want a perfect 20 yard broadside shot from our treestand on theperfect tree at the perfect heighton anunalarmed deer that isstanding to our left(for right handers) looking directly away from us with a slight calm breeze blowingfrom the deer to usand the sun slowlysettingoff toour rightwith no rain in sight and plenty of shooting light, but it doesn't always happen that way, at least not where I hunt.
I thinkthat most experienced shooters will find similiar results to Atlas especially when thetarget ranges are near normal bowhunting ranges (20 yards or less). We all want a perfect 20 yard broadside shot from our treestand on theperfect tree at the perfect heighton anunalarmed deer that isstanding to our left(for right handers) looking directly away from us with a slight calm breeze blowingfrom the deer to usand the sun slowlysettingoff toour rightwith no rain in sight and plenty of shooting light, but it doesn't always happen that way, at least not where I hunt.
#97
RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
If I wanted to call you a liar...I'd call you a liar. I didnt. Don't put words in my mouth.
You know exactly what I mean.....but yet you continue. I'll never undertand you.
Have a good evening.
You know exactly what I mean.....but yet you continue. I'll never undertand you.
Have a good evening.
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RE: What's all the fuss about?? (forgiveness--accuracy--etc)
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
If I wanted to call you a liar...I'd call you a liar. I didnt. Don't put words in my mouth.
If I wanted to call you a liar...I'd call you a liar. I didnt. Don't put words in my mouth.
What did you apologize for??
You know exactly what I mean.....but yet you continue. I'll never undertand you.