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If what you say is true, (reversable) then I don't like the makers of the WB even more. I actually had to wait for one of my lefty biscuits to be ordered. To put a universal biscuit in a left handed package and charge an extra $5 is fraud and BS. If you were a lefty, wouldn't it PO you too? That by itself is a good enough reason not to buy a WB.

I agree. Again, a right handed biscuit works for lefties and now you need to use the aluminum biscuit for axis shafts? It might have been nice to have the maker tell you that instead of having to learn these lessons by trial and error. I guess trial and error sells more biscuits.

In 2 years of using A WB I had it happen once while hunting and a few times after while practicing. If it hasn't happened to you , great, I hope it never does. Especially while hunting. To be fair to the WB, MY sense of false security may have lead me to not be as careful. A couple of years using spring forks, I never had an arrow fall off my rest while hunting. Because I do know how easy it is for an arrow to fall of spring forks, I was much more careful. Also switching from Spring forks to the WB I had a bad habit of putting a finger on the arrow which is a big no no with the WB.

really? LOL No I've never seen anyone shoot FOB's that far and I do not think an FOB won't drift with the wind. What I do know is the other day I was shooting both Blazer vanes and FOB's in a 20-25 MPH wind (-30 wind chill). Holding on the center of a yellow jacket target at 25 yards, Blazers were drifting about 10- 16 inches, the FOB's were only drifting a couple of inches. The Bazers weren't grouping at all, the FOB's were grouping good enough to hunt with. To me that's saying I may be able to bow hunt with winds up to 25 mph with FOB's where as season's prior a 25 mph wind meant I was going duck hunting. Shooting 136 yards with a stiff cross wind would be fun to watch., but I agree that it's a stretch. It would be a bigger stretch to try it with vanes. I have no doubt that the FOB's would fair better in A cross wind than any vaned or feathered arrow.

Believe what you want, I never said FOB's wouldn't drift at 136 yards with a cross wind. I also said I can't see that far, I've never shot that far so A SMART person can assume that my comment on FOB's grouping at 136 yards with a stiff crosswind was pure speculation on my part. If someone told me my life depended on getting a good group at 136 yards with a crosswind, I'd have to go with a drop away and FOB's based on what I've seen FOB's do at short ranges under 40 yards. From what I've seen, FOB's blow away Blazers, Quik Spins and elcheapo vanes when it comes to shooting in the wind. Any product that can add more hunting days in the woods, is worth a look at....If I believed everything I've read, I would have used FOB's last year. Now that I've had a chance to experiment with FOB's, I've yet to see anything that contradicts what Starflight says about it's FOB's. The one thing that impresses me the most is how they fly in the wind.

Basically, you've convinced me even more that the WB sucks.according to you they lie about and charge more for left handed biscuits, and what diameter size to use with what arrows seems to be a mystery that everyone has a different theory about. Is it too much to ask that a biscuit advertised for Axis shafts is actually the best biscuit to use with Axis shafts? Or is that just a couple secrets they want to keep to them selves to make more money? Talk about a bunch of crap! If right and left handed biscuits are truly the same, maybe they shouldn't be and because they are not, maybe the left handed people are having more trouble with the WB because of it...? I don't know. If the bristles are leaned a little for the right handers, it would make sense that flipping it around would make the bristles lean into the arrow instead of with the arrow, and maybe the cause for more noise when drawing, more inconsistent when shooting and maybe even more likely to get stuck/crushed into the bristles? This line of thought is why I never tried a right hand biscuit in my left handed WB. I'd feel pretty stupid if I caused more problems by trying to save $5. If the company says I need a lefty biscuit, who am I not to believe them?
Being a lefty in a right handed world is difficult. In many cases, right handed products get more time and attention and many left handed products are inferior to there right handed counterparts and/or more expensive. I'm curious to know if other lefties have also had more issues with the WB? Or issues with right handed bow techs setting up and tuning left handed bows? I've had 4 bows from 3 dealers. The 1st and last bows shot the best by far. Both from the same dealer, with the same lefty bow tech. The 2nd and 3rd bows were Hoyt, very good bows, but set up by 2 different right handed techs, both had the WB and neither shot as good as my 1st bow, an old and slow Browning or my less expensive Parker Hornet I have now. Is it the left handed WB, or the left handed tech (who is the least experienced tech)that was the difference?

RE: Whisker Biscuit accuracy past 20 yards.......WAY past
 

I just like the name Whisker Biscuit, kinda rolls off the tongue. It also helps that I love most any kind of biscuit for examplebuttermilk, flaky layer, homemade, bicuits & gravy, apple butter biccuits. Now I admit that a "whisker" biscuit does not sound very appetizingI still like them.

I once got a group of 6 sausage biscuits inside a 6 " appetizer plate, it was amazing even though I don't remember the exact yardage.

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It's not fraud, Christ, why is this so hard for you to understand? The black plastic housing is what is either right or left handed. The actual biscuit itself (metal ring with brown and black bristles) is the EXACT same one that goes in the right or left handed models. There's no directional lean to the bristles, anyone who takes a couple of seconds to actually LOOK at it can tell that. I'm sure they charge more because they need to re-tool for the left handed ones plus they don't sell as many so they recoupby charging more. That's justthe way things are when you're "not the norm" Believe me when Itell you that I understand that concept completely! You pay more when you're different!

Wack, we have some common ground here. I too believe that the guidelines on the back of the packaging are confusing as to which opening to use. I also think they should sell just the biscuit only and not with the plastic housing. I know they sell the original B-2 biscuit (without the quick load feature) without the plastic but I've never seen the quick load biscuit sold by it's self.

Still if all you needed was the biscuitonly and already had the plastic ring, all youhad to do was ask here if you could get the right handedoneand just use the biscuit. I can't believe with this resource (HNI) you couldn't ask if a right handed biscuit would work so you could save $5.00. You sure have no problem posting about how much you hate the W/B though.:eek:

Sounds like your problems with the biscuit were "operator error" and nothing to do with it's design. I suppose if I were always pushing down on the arrow with my finger as I drew you could damage the biscuit to where it wouldn't push the arrow back into positionanymore. Again, not a design flaw of the rest. It's designed to put the arrow back into shooting position if "bumped" out for some reason or another. I don't think abnormal abuse was considered.



I'm not going to comment on the FOB's any more other than reiterating I think they are nothing but a gimmick and I think they are junk. Talk about a crock, you can ONLY use a drop away rest with them, theFOB pops off after you hit your deer. They try to pass that off as a"good thing" so you can fine where you hit your deer. If you can't figure that out (without the help of some little plastic ring)then maybe folks need to spend more time paying attention to what's happening when they are hunting. I've NEVER needed to search for the spot of the initial impact. Plusgood luck finding the arrow after the FOB pops off. They're hardenough to find WITH bright colored fletchingson to begin with:D,no thank you. I hope you like them and I wish you success with them as well, I really do.

The rest of your paragraph is a whole lot of speculations that quite frankly if you just took the time to inspect the biscuit you will see that it's not directional and there is no conspiracy.:eek:I'm sorry you're having trouble with the the tech's setting up your bow(s). Again no conspiracy with the products going on them, just the workmanship. Perhaps you should find another shop to do your work or even better.....learn how to do it yourself.

I set my own bows up (have done so for years) and I've never had he problems you have, I'm no bow technician either.

RE: Whisker Biscuit accuracy past 20 yards.......WAY past
 

OK what the hell is a FOB?

Fish or beef?
Fat Old Bastard?

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fawn on Board

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:eek:

http://www.starrflight.com/

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What the hell is that thing?

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BigJ's think :eek:means FOB=Find out buddy!! :eek:

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Germ
I keep trying to tell them you aren't supposed to tune WB until after you've applied butter and grape jelly, after that it's nothing but bullet holes.

RE: Whisker Biscuit accuracy past 20 yards.......WAY past
 

It looks like the thing we had in the 80's, with the rip cord that flew. Pulled the cord and the top flew up.

That thing is uglier than the WB:D