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Washington Hunter 02-03-2008 02:11 PM

MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
Kyle asked me to post these pictures for him. I'll let him ask any questions he needs to, etc...







MN/Kyle 02-03-2008 02:14 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
First off, Thanks a Ton, Dan.

Second; The 10 sec timer really kicked my butt. I'm going to try and get more ASAP.

Any input is appreciated, Thanks.

Matt/TN 02-03-2008 02:32 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
I personally. Would shorten the draw length 1/4" to just get a feel for it. I think you are VERY close to great form. Your arm being locked bothers me a little. You want it straight but not locked. The nock seems to be at a good spot on your face, but I would try to get your bow arm right and then see where the nock comes to on your face. Your draw length, looks VERY close. Just fix that bow arm and see where it brings things.



Edit: Can't really tell from the pics but it looks like you are gripping the bow and getting too much of your palm on the grip.

buckeye 02-03-2008 02:35 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
You are leaning back slightly but not bad... You could use to drop your bow shoulder.... Your form looks pretty clean....

Yourstraight arm and dl don't bother me.



MN/Kyle 02-03-2008 02:43 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
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ORIGINAL: Matt/TN
Edit: Can't really tell from the pics but it looks like you are gripping the bow and getting too much of your palm on the grip.
Thats one thing I know I'm not doing, but your right it does look like it. Thats one thing I had trouble with getting a good grip with the timer. Felt real rushed. The last pic shows my grip the best.

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ORIGINAL: Buckeye
You could use to drop your bow shoulder..
Thanks, thats a very good point. Somthing I'll def have to work on.

MN/Kyle 02-03-2008 03:55 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
I'm going to try and put a slight bend in my bow arm, and hopefully it will bring my shoulder down to the correct place.

Washington Hunter 02-03-2008 03:58 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
My two cents worth, and Kyle and I have discussed it on MSN... I'll throw it out and hopefully TFOX or RJ will chime in...

I think the draw length is basically fine. if anything, I would lengthen it 1/4".

I also believe that if he were to bend his arm more, this would drop his shoulder down easier and would bring his release hand slightly forward on his face more.

I don't know that he's necessarily leaning back, he may be pushing his hips forward. I had the same problem awhile back. It was more of an alignment issue than a draw length issue.

TFOX 02-03-2008 04:04 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
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ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

My two cents worth, and Kyle and I have discussed it on MSN... I'll throw it out and hopefully TFOX or RJ will chime in...

I think the draw length is basically fine. if anything, I would lengthen it 1/4".

I also believe that if he were to bend his arm more, this would drop his shoulder down easier and would bring his release hand slightly forward on his face more.

I don't know that he's necessarily leaning back, he may be pushing his hips forward. I had the same problem awhile back. It was more of an alignment issue than a draw length issue.
I think you covered it pretty well.Instead of bending the bow arm,try just relaxing it,that will put the right amount of bend in it imo.

MN/Kyle 02-03-2008 04:11 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
Quote:

ORIGINAL: TFOX

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ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

My two cents worth, and Kyle and I have discussed it on MSN... I'll throw it out and hopefully TFOX or RJ will chime in...

I think the draw length is basically fine. if anything, I would lengthen it 1/4".

I also believe that if he were to bend his arm more, this would drop his shoulder down easier and would bring his release hand slightly forward on his face more.

I don't know that he's necessarily leaning back, he may be pushing his hips forward. I had the same problem awhile back. It was more of an alignment issue than a draw length issue.
I think you covered it pretty well.Instead of bending the bow arm,try just relaxing it,that will put the right amount of bend in it imo.
TFOX, I was waiting on your reply! That seems like a good plan, relaxing the bow arm. I do get more string slap than I'd like, and at first I thought it was because I had too long of draw. I know now, it's becuase I'm not relaxed enough with the bow arm. Thanks guys, anything else, let me have it.

Go pats[:-]

TFOX 02-03-2008 04:15 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
The arm slap might be from the grip.You need to rotate the forearm over as previously mentioned to get less palm in the grip,that along with relaxing and getting the front shoulder down should fix arm slap.

buckeye 02-03-2008 04:22 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
After the countless form threads he has posted in...... I would like to see Tfox's... I'd like to know if these are do as I say, or do as I do:D

MN/Kyle 02-03-2008 04:25 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
Quote:

ORIGINAL: TFOX

The arm slap might be from the grip.You need to rotate the forearm over as previously mentioned to get less palm in the grip,that along with relaxing and getting the front shoulder down should fix arm slap.
Thanks.

I'll try and get another pic, soon.

I'm going to relax, and "turn over" my bow arm and see how she looks then. Getting used to it will be the key, a lot of practice will be in order. Thanks for all the replys, guys. I wasn't going to do this, but I'm really glad I did.

Also, I'm going to try and get more straight up and down with my body.

Thanks again.

NY/Al 02-03-2008 08:30 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
i think your grip is about to be blue in the face!;)

TFOX 02-03-2008 08:44 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
Quote:

ORIGINAL: buckeye

After the countless form threads he has posted in...... I would like to see Tfox's... I'd like to know if these are do as I say, or do as I do:D

Here is my ugly mug,figured most were tired of seeing it by now,I have posted it several times before.

My form is not perfect but I have had many in depth conversations with a level 4 coach and most of what I tell people is what comes from his advice to me.




TFOX 02-03-2008 08:47 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
The key is to get to a workable middle ground for each shooter to work from.There is no cookie cutter form but there are some basics that most should try to adhere to,then it is up to each individuall to find their own way from there.

Or even better,if they get a coach that can help them find that perfect form for them.

MN/Kyle 02-03-2008 10:10 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
Quote:

ORIGINAL: gobblegetterNY

i think your grip is about to be blue in the face!;)
LOL, I'm really NOT choking the grip but the pics make it look like that...promise. lol. Hardest part of gettin the pic in time with the timer.



TFOX 02-03-2008 10:18 PM

RE: MN/Kyle; Looking for form help.
 
Quote:

ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle

Quote:

ORIGINAL: gobblegetterNY

i think your grip is about to be blue in the face!;)
LOL, I'm really NOT choking the grip but the pics make it look like that...promise. lol. Hardest part of gettin the pic in time with the timer.


I watched a guy shoot a 300 with 60 x's last night with a very similar grip.He did rotate the forearm more though.


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