Loop guys
 

I have been shooting of the string for 23 years now. I have decided to go to a rope thing:D

For the guys who use rope in hunting conditions I have a few questions.

1.Why not use the Ultra Nock?
2.Have you ever struggle to get your release on at the moment of truth
3.Have you ever have the rope move up or down?

RE: Rope release guys
 

1. Don't know for sure. I have heard that the metal nock are heavier and hurt like the dickens if you happen to hit your forearm with the string. I have also heard they can pinch the string and reduce string life. Again, not sure because I haven't tried one.
2. No. Never.
3. No. Never. Tension from continuous shooting makes the loop very secure.

RE: Rope release guys
 

the ultra nock? is that the big ole thing that clamps to your string??? buddy shoots one...couldnt pay me to put that on my string..big, heavy, and i think it may be noisy...his bow hurts my ears when he shoots period..so i cant tell if some of it is that or not...not to mention, my luck the screws would back out or something...

never had trouble getting my release on...my current release i pull the trigger and the jaws open, relax it and the jaws close...i dont even have to look to hook up really. as soon as i hear deer or catch movement i hook up and stand up if im not standing.

if tied and tightened properly, they shouldnt move. mine never has...ive tied my own and had shops tie them...never had a problem with them moving...heck, i even took my nocks off and shoot with just a loop now...i did use a sharpie to mark the knots to see if it moved, and it hasnt and that loop been on since August..

never had any other troubles...imo the string loop is about the only thing that makes sense as far as using a release...putting the jaws and pressure right behind the arrow..

if you dont like it, they are simple to remove and you can go back to shooting from the string..

RE: Rope release guys
 

m06 that is what I needed to know thank you.

Good idea with the sharpie, you're not just a pretty face after all:D

RE: Rope release guys
 

Are you talking about a rope release or a loop??

RE: Rope release guys
 

1. The ultra-nok is heavy, has screws that could back out, IMO noiser, the constant metal to metal contact between release and ultra nock is bound to wear something out, and also more expensive.

2. No, never any trouble to get the release on, becomes second nature.

3. As was said, the more you shoot, the more the knots tighten. I have used just a loop with no brass or tied on nockpoints without any movement or slipping.

A string loop is just easier and more convienent to me. They're easy to tie, easy to replace, and easy to tune. You just cant go wrong with it.

RE: Rope release guys
 

Loop, sorry

RE: Rope release guys
 

I serve under the arrow nock position and then tie the bottom of the loop under that serving (knot). Also when tieing in the loop, tie the loop smaller than you think it needs to be and thenget a pair of needle nose pliers and put them in the loop and open them to stretch the loop out and also tighten it down.

RE: Rope release guys
 

Ok:DI like useing a loop.I have a tool,its like a pair of pliers to sinch the loop with.No problems.I use just the loop no nocks or anything.Cant remember whereI got the sinch tool sorry.

RE: Rope release guys
 

I just use a pair of needlenose pliers, just stick in the loop and pull open, stretching the loop and tightening the knots.

RE: Rope release guys
 

:) im blushing germ ;) :D...i might REALLY have to watch out for the spoon move if we ever get to cross paths;)

i got some brains between my ears...or atleast i like to think. actually, the shop owner told me with a properly tied loop, i really dont need nocks of any sort, but it was my decision. i had one inside the loop, that i would nock my arrow beneath...i told him go ahead and take it off see if i like it...i was real worried about it moving, so i marked 1 of the knots of the loop with a red sharpie...being my center serving is black with some white specs, you really have to look to find it, but i know where its at...cant be the goober at the 3d shoot that marked his serving with a sharpie :D

RE: Rope release guys
 

Heavy, with all the problems that go with it. Excessive forward string travel, even enough for the metal to peen the back of the rest on some lower brace bows. More chance of wrist slap. Slower arrow speeds.

They are metal. Unyeilding. The string makes a severe bend on each side of the loop causing premature wear and damage. I have seen many strings break exactly flush with the loop. And when that string breaks with a piece of metal screwed onto it, you have a really good chance of getting a pretty serious cut on your face or arms.

All in all, they're not worth the risk. In my humble opinion, that is. I'm sure there are some poor deluded souls out there that love them. :D

Use a good, stiff loop material and keep the loop well waxed. The wax keeps it open for easy, quick hookups and gives good wear resistance. And practice doesn't hurt either. ;)

Once they're pulledtight, they don't move.

RE: Loop guys
 

1. Never tried one
2. I use a old style Hot-Shot hand release that always stays on the loop
3. No

RE: Loop guys
 

Go to a loop and don't look back. I was reluctant at first too, but its been nothing but easy.
I can hook up my release without even looking. Stiff quality loop material is important.

RE: Loop guys
 

Here ya go Germ,

This is priceless. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2185934

RE: Loop guys
 

Here is how I tie mine on, modeled after my pro shop owner. I tie my own on because I trust myself more;). Get the burnt balls(ends) right and you'll have no problems. Make sure you pull each end as tight as you can. Pull first end tight before you even tie the other side, then pull string loop as tight as you can using needlenose pliers, seating 2nd end.

RE: Loop guys
 

no problems at all with mine, other than the PRO shop had put it on wrong, i had to change it, they had the knots on the same side instead of stagered.

RE: Loop guys
 

I forgot one other teensie little problem with metal loops... They will absolutely ruin aluminum jaws on a release. I just got reminded of that one yesterday. I bought a new Scott Mongoose and was actually reading the warranty info (slow day ;)). It said using a metal loop will void the warranty.

RE: Rope release guys
 

Get the loop where you want it and put some serving above and below it and it wont move. I use a short loop but it is perfect. No problems during hunting. The metal clamp on loop will wear out your release.