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What fixed blade broadheads have the BIGGEST cutting diameter?
After shootingFOBs for the last 6 months, I'm convinced that I could shoot the biggest fixed blade broadheads accurately. The problem is there just isn't that many to choose from.
The G5 Striker Magnum is going to be a 1.5" cut 3 blade. That looks sweet. But that's the only one! The Magnus Snuffer 150 grain (1 5/16") and the Striker Magnum (1.5") appear to be the only choices. The new Slick Trick Grizztrick (1 1/4") looks good, but I want an even bigger cut! With todays high KE bows like the Airbornes and the Elites, and shooting FOBs, I think there could be a real demand for super big fixed blades - especially from those of us that like real heavy arrows and don't care about speed as much as KE, momentum, and killing power. |
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Gz--I know I am shooting smaller deer down here in VA, but I was very happy with the Muzzy MX-3's this year...lots of blood and great cuts.
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I liked the results from the little MX-3's too. Will use them again next year.
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Cutting diameter alone does not tell you anything. Cutting diameter plus the number of blades tells the whole story concerning total ammount of tissue being cut as the broadhead passes thru the animal.
Take theoriginal slick trickmagnumand Muzzy MX4 at 1.125" cutting diameter. It's four blades add up to a total cutof 2.25 inches. The GrizTrick is a 1.25" four blade for a total cut of 2.5 inches. That's friggin huge. To compare a Rage 3 blade has a cutting diameter of 1.5 inches for a total cut of 2.25 inches. Equal to the Slick trick and less than the new Grizz trick. Even with expandables there are only a few that have a total cut more than 2 - 2.5 inches. Even the super wide Hypershock 125 only has 2.75 inches of total cutting ability. This is one of the widest broadheads on the market. |
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ORIGINAL: bigbulls Cutting diameter alone does not tell you anything. Cutting diameter plus the number of blades tells the whole story concerning total ammount of tissue being cut as the broadhead passes thru the animal. Take theoriginal slick trickmagnumand Muzzy MX4 at 1.125" cutting diameter. It's four blades add up to a total cutof 2.25 inches. The GrizTrick is a 1.25" four blade for a total cut of 2.5 inches. That's friggin huge. To compare a Rage 3 blade has a cutting diameter of 1.5 inches for a total cut of 2.25 inches. Equal to the Slick trick and less than the new Grizz trick. Even with expandables there are only a few that have a total cut more than 2 - 2.5 inches. Even the super wide Hypershock 125 only has 2.75 inches of total cutting ability. This is one of the widest broadheads on the market. With my FOBS, I've shot Spitfires with the BLADES OPEN and it hit the same mark as my field points! I know these things can handle a 1.5" fixed blade. Somebody just MAKE one and I promise I'll buy it. |
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ORIGINAL: bow huntert I liked the results from the little MX-3's too. Will use them again next year. |
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I can tell you this from expierence that the Magnus 3 blade snuffer you mentioned cuts a hell of a hole and its blood trails are better then most I've seen when tracking animals. These heads have worked great on deer, bear, elk, caribou, moose. I've only seen the blood trails from deer, bear, elk, but my hunting buddies that shoot them too tell me the blood trails on the caribou and moose were excellent as well. If a fixed blade gets too wide I would think the arrow flight might get out of wack regardless of a heavy arrow, maybe not but just my thoughts anyway.
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Rocky Mountain Gators have a 2" cut diameter
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ORIGINAL: patgrizzlyhunter Rocky Mountain Gators have a 2" cut diameter |
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Just go to a mechanical head :eek:;)
Serisouly though, with bows getting faster, and fletchings getting smaller, it's tough to get huge fixed blades to fly. I know FOBS fly great, and a Blazer vane does as well. Like I said in my Rage post, I'll be using Rage's for a LONG LONG LONG time, I feel like they COULD be the best head on the market, as far as damage goes. However, if I get drawn for Iowa, I'll be using Slick Tricks. I'll also keep some slick tricks in my quiver just for comparison purposes. |
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ORIGINAL: Matt/TN Just go to a mechanical head :eek:;) Serisouly though, with bows getting faster, and fletchings getting smaller, it's tough to get huge fixed blades to fly. I know FOBS fly great, and a Blazer vane does as well. Like I said in my Rage post, I'll be using Rage's for a LONG LONG LONG time, I feel like they COULD be the best head on the market, as far as damage goes. However, if I get drawn for Iowa, I'll be using Slick Tricks. I'll also keep some slick tricks in my quiver just for comparison purposes. I don't think you guys really understand just how good these FOBs work. I've shotSpitfires with the BLADES OPEN and it flies just like a field point. With regular fletching, you couldn't do that. I've shot some of the worst 3 blade broadheads I can find (like Eastman Sabre 125 grains with bent ferrules) and the results are the same as field points. I'm thinking about going to a 185 grain Magnus Snuffer. That has a 1.5" cutting diameter and my FOC would be 14.24%. I'd get 250 fps and 82 ft - lbs KE. And my arrows would spine PERFECTLY. |
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just slap your FOBs on the SOB and your good to go! that thing looks like it could tear a hole through a whale! 2 3/4" cutting !and its half fixed blade! haha i would never buy that. edit: never mind from the reviews they dont sound half bad.. |
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Don't laugh at that broadhead! That's what I'm using for turkeys this year!
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oh come on you cant tell me that doesnt look rediculous! I might buy them for turkey though also haha
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I shoot strikers, Might even go with Striker magnums, this year. Best broadheads I've ever owned....EVER.
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You could get the Gobbler Guillotine and make your own super sharp titaniumblades.. what, thats like a 5 inch cutting dia. [&:]
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The Magnus Snuffer 150 grain (1 5/16") and the Striker Magnum (1.5") appear to be the only choices. The new Slick Trick Grizztrick (1 1/4") looks good, but I want an even bigger cut! Thanks Ryan. |
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ORIGINAL: gzg38b ORIGINAL: Matt/TN Just go to a mechanical head :eek:;) Serisouly though, with bows getting faster, and fletchings getting smaller, it's tough to get huge fixed blades to fly. I know FOBS fly great, and a Blazer vane does as well. Like I said in my Rage post, I'll be using Rage's for a LONG LONG LONG time, I feel like they COULD be the best head on the market, as far as damage goes. However, if I get drawn for Iowa, I'll be using Slick Tricks. I'll also keep some slick tricks in my quiver just for comparison purposes. I don't think you guys really understand just how good these FOBs work. I've shotSpitfires with the BLADES OPEN and it flies just like a field point. With regular fletching, you couldn't do that. I've shot some of the worst 3 blade broadheads I can find (like Eastman Sabre 125 grains with bent ferrules) and the results are the same as field points. I'm thinking about going to a 185 grain Magnus Snuffer. That has a 1.5" cutting diameter and my FOC would be 14.24%. I'd get 250 fps and 82 ft - lbs KE. And my arrows would spine PERFECTLY. |
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Not sure when the Striker Magnums will be available. On AT a G5 person said early March. Here's a pic of the Magnum next to the original Striker...
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ORIGINAL: gzg38b Not sure when the Striker Magnums will be available. Spring 08 is all I heard. Here's a pic of the Magnum next to the original Striker...
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ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle ORIGINAL: gzg38b Not sure when the Striker Magnums will be available. Spring 08 is all I heard. Here's a pic of the Magnum next to the original Striker...
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[/quote]They should do the trick for ya Kyle!!
[/quote] We'll see, trying them on bear, this year. |
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Let me know how the bloodtrail is. Bear sometimes don't leave good blood trails because they plug up the hole with fat so bad so don't be too upset if you don't get much of a blood trail.
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ORIGINAL: Schultzy Let me know how the bloodtrail is. Bear sometimes don't leave good blood trails because they plug up the hole with fat so bad so don't be too upset if you don't get much of a blood trail. My striker (non-magnum?? standard maybe?? IDK, lol) left a helluva good one last year, 60 yard track or so. |
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This is what I'm looking for... Where can I buy it? [:-]
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ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle ORIGINAL: gzg38b Not sure when the Striker Magnums will be available. Spring 08 is all I heard. Here's a pic of the Magnum next to the original Striker...
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ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle ORIGINAL: Schultzy Let me know how the bloodtrail is. Bear sometimes don't leave good blood trails because they plug up the hole with fat so bad so don't be too upset if you don't get much of a blood trail. My striker (non-magnum?? standard maybe?? IDK, lol) left a helluva good one last year, 60 yard track or so. |
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ORIGINAL: gzg38b This is what I'm looking for... Where can I buy it? [:-]
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I'm more concerned about shot placement than curring diameter. If you use a broadhead less prone to wind planing and hit them in the right spot with a 7/8 cut you are better off than a gut shot with an oversized poorly flying head.
Then again I never used a .458 winchester rifle hunting for whitetails either. |
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Nobody currently makes a 1.5" fixed blade broadhead (except Magnus Snuffers in the 185 grain version) Even with a 1.5" cutting diameter a 1.5" three blade head cutsthe same ammount oftissue as the original slick trick magnum and Muzzy MX4 so you don't gain anything. IfI were looking for the maximum amount of damage from a fixed blade then the only choice I see is the Grizztrick which will be available mid summer. It has more cutting ability than any other fixed blade head I can find other than the treeshark pictured above. But in order to get more cutting ability, even from the treesharkyou would need to use bleeder blades for a total cut of3-1/8". I think you are just kidding a bit but thehead in your pic is probablynothing more than a large scale modelbroadhead. That thing would weigh 1000 grains alone. Ithink the reason why you don't see a broadhead like you are looking for is because there is simply no need for it to exist. Seriously, how big of a holedoes a person needto put through a 200 - 300 pound animal to kill it in 10 seconds? The instant a 1" diameter broadhead goes through both lungs of an animal the blood pressure instantly drops tonear zeroin thebodydue to it being pumped out of the new vents you just created and the brain no longer receives oxygen and the animal passes out. It will take essentially the same amount of time for the animal to pass out from oxygen depravation with a 1" hole or a 3" hole. |
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Simmons Tree Sharks, in the pic posted by Snood Slapper. 2" wide.
http://www.simmonssharks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SimmonsShar ks.com&Product_Code=SB-50 |
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Looks pretty weak looking to me.
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ORIGINAL: bigbulls Nobody currently makes a 1.5" fixed blade broadhead (except Magnus Snuffers in the 185 grain version) Even with a 1.5" cutting diameter a 1.5" three blade head cutsthe same ammount oftissue as the original slick trick magnum and Muzzy MX4 so you don't gain anything. IfI were looking for the maximum amount of damage from a fixed blade then the only choice I see is the Grizztrick which will be available mid summer. It has more cutting ability than any other fixed blade head I can find other than the treeshark pictured above. But in order to get more cutting ability, even from the treesharkyou would need to use bleeder blades for a total cut of3-1/8". I think you are just kidding a bit but thehead in your pic is probablynothing more than a large scale modelbroadhead. That thing would weigh 1000 grains alone. Ithink the reason why you don't see a broadhead like you are looking for is because there is simply no need for it to exist. Seriously, how big of a holedoes a person needto put through a 200 - 300 pound animal to kill it in 10 seconds? The instant a 1" diameter broadhead goes through both lungs of an animal the blood pressure instantly drops tonear zeroin thebodydue to it being pumped out of the new vents you just created and the brain no longer receives oxygen and the animal passes out. It will take essentially the same amount of time for the animal to pass out from oxygen depravation with a 1" hole or a 3" hole. |
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ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle ORIGINAL: bigbulls Nobody currently makes a 1.5" fixed blade broadhead (except Magnus Snuffers in the 185 grain version) Even with a 1.5" cutting diameter a 1.5" three blade head cutsthe same ammount oftissue as the original slick trick magnum and Muzzy MX4 so you don't gain anything. IfI were looking for the maximum amount of damage from a fixed blade then the only choice I see is the Grizztrick which will be available mid summer. It has more cutting ability than any other fixed blade head I can find other than the treeshark pictured above. But in order to get more cutting ability, even from the treesharkyou would need to use bleeder blades for a total cut of3-1/8". I think you are just kidding a bit but thehead in your pic is probablynothing more than a large scale modelbroadhead. That thing would weigh 1000 grains alone. Ithink the reason why you don't see a broadhead like you are looking for is because there is simply no need for it to exist. Seriously, how big of a holedoes a person needto put through a 200 - 300 pound animal to kill it in 10 seconds? The instant a 1" diameter broadhead goes through both lungs of an animal the blood pressure instantly drops tonear zeroin thebodydue to it being pumped out of the new vents you just created and the brain no longer receives oxygen and the animal passes out. It will take essentially the same amount of time for the animal to pass out from oxygen depravation with a 1" hole or a 3" hole. |
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Sure, the animal dies the same way, but won't you get a better blood trail with a bigger cutting diameter? Bigger hole, more blood will come out of it, takes longer to clot...right? Given the same shot on the same animal the results would be virtually the same the only real differance would be the shape of the hole. Another way to look at is a square that occupies 2 square inches in area is the same size as a triangle that occupies 2 square inches in area is the same size as a rectangle that occupies 2 square inches in area. Now assumeall threepenetrate 12 inches of deer they will cut exactly the same amount of tissue on their way through. For an example my BH's I shoot are bigger in diameter but shorter in length then the 3 blade Wensel Woodsman. They probably have the same cutting surface but my snuffers will leave a bigger hole because there bigger in diameter. There's no dought my blood trails shrunk in half when I went to a 3 blade snuffer, its much wider then what I was using and the trails ended much quicker. It's not the cutting surfacein regards to the length of the blades but rather the cutting diameter divided in half multiplied by the number of blades. This is the total cutting ability of a broadhead as it passes through an aniamal. |
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ORIGINAL: bigbulls Sure, the animal dies the same way, but won't you get a better blood trail with a bigger cutting diameter? Bigger hole, more blood will come out of it, takes longer to clot...right? Another way to look at is a square that occupies 2 square inches in area is the same size as a triangle that occupies 2 square inches in area is the same size as a rectangle that occupies 2 square inches in area. Now assumeall threepenetrate 12 inches of deer they will cut exactly the same amount of tissue on their way through. |
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That wide cutting diameter is a PLANING NIGHTMARE!!! There was some discussion on AT regarding the Striker Magnum, and it was said that they may not fly well out past 25-30yds, by the guy promoting them himself. I believe due to the angle of those blades, if you hit a shoulder blade, your day is over, because that 45 degree angle is not going to be friendly for penetration. As was said, the Magnus 185 ( http://www.freddiebearsports.com/pro...3740&cat=D ) may be the way to go it you really think you need something that big, but I'll stick with my mechanicals for WIDE cuts, because I hunt where it can be pretty windy at times, and I don't need any extra planing on my arrows, I'm a bad enough archer as it is. For my Fixed Blade heads, I like my "Eastman Titanium Sabre 100's" and they fly real close to my FP's out to 40yds, so why change what ain't broke??? I like a less acute angle for my BH, as it seems to lend it self a bit better to penetration, and in essence, you actually have more blade slicing and dicing with a longer blade anyhow.
Here that 185gr Snuffer.....  |
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[quote]ORIGINAL: patgrizzlyhunter
Rocky Mountain Gators have a 2" cut diameter [/quote Rocky mountain gators are junk! |
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I personally think penitration with a good broadhead is more important than the size of the entry hole. I'd rather have a good entry AND exit hole than just a huge entry hole.
This is why I use Razorcaps. They have a good cutting diameter of 1 1/8 inches AND 6 inches of cutting surface, have EXCELLENT penitration and are nearly indistructable. I hunt with 3 100 grain razorcaps and 3 150 grain razorcaps in my quiver. If I'm in a tight spot with shots out to 25 yards or less (which is most of the time) I'll be shooting my 150 grain razorcaps. Both shoot the same out of my bow with just a slight drop (1/2 inch or so) at 25 yards. I killed 5 deer this year with the same broadhead and it's ready for next season. All were pass throughs to include one shot through a buck's spine. Blood trails rainged from trackable (skin covered exit hole by front shoulder) to blood everywhere. It's a great broadhead with weight options from 100 to 200 grains.  |
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