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Yea, I just ran it through the OnTarget2 software, and with the bow at the low end of the speed range (340 i.b.o), a 28" draw at 70 pounds, it shows that you would get 275.49 f.p.s. with a 10 grain tied in peep, a d-loop, and a brass nock on the string. That comes out to 90.23 ft-lbs of KE. With the bow at the high end of the speed range (350 i.b.o), same set-up, it shows a speed of 285.49 f.p.s. for 96.90 ft-lbs of KE!

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It has no affect of me at all, whether or not people buy them.


Quiet frankly, I'm done talking about this crap. Whether you think it's smooth or not, I guess it's YOUR opinion. Have you shot an XForce? or an 82nd?(with speed mods)? Or a SpeedForce? I believe that's all the 350's. I haven't had the opportunity to shoot the SpeedForce but if it draws like an IronMace, it's pretty rough. My point in the smooth statement was that the GTO is smoother than all the bows in it's speed range. Not that it matters, take my opinion with a grain of salt and just disregard it. I just don't see how a person who has honestly shot all the bows in the 350ibo range, doesn't think the GTO is the smoothest bow in that category.


I'm finished talking about this bow, or any other bow. It's pointless. No matter what, I'll still be remembered as not knowing how to fletch my own arrows, and the whole Ross crap. So, say what you want. I know whatever response I get from this, it'll be to the "I'm better andbiggerthan you" effect.

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At least the BowTech guys haven't thrown a "my penis is bigger than yours" in here yet. :D:)

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:D:D:D I think we're going to need a weightlifting forum pretty soon!

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I didn't read all the posts here. It was starting to go south. But in reference to the GTO... I tried to order one in LH but couldn't get one till Summer due to LH production.
I did get a Synergy.
If you hop on over to Elite's site there are quite a few guys that have them.
Just to relay what they are saying.... The bow has a very smooth draw, not harsh. When drawing you do feel the weight but it'seven, and then drops into the valley.No bumps in the cycle at all. Holds great.Absolutely no vibration or hand shock.
mobo gave an accurate description.

And yes , it is smokin fast....."72.4 pushes a 400gr at 305fps. w/ 29"D. Actual
From one Birth Cert.... 71.5# at a 29 in. 350gr. 334fps.

http://www.elitearchery.com/forums/index.php

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Not to put a damper on anything but.............whats up with Darton slapping a lawsuit on Elite and threatening Elite dealers? I'm gonna wait it out.

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Will see also:eek:

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Darton sued Elite for patent infringement in 2007. Here'e a quote fom Elite:
"Darton did sue Elite Archery for patent infringement in 2007. Rather than spend the time, effort and considerable cost of fighting a patent infringement action on short notice, Elite agreed to discontinue selling the bows it was selling at that time and entered into a Consent Judgment with Darton to this effect. It is Elite’s position that the bows that Elite currently is selling, the Elite Synergy Extreme, Elite Xtreme XL, Elite Fire and Elite GTO Bows, are not covered by the Consent Injunction. In addition, based on research that Elite has done since it was sued by Darton, Elite believes that the patent that Darton asserted against Elite is invalid. If the Darton patent is invalid, the bows being made by Elite cannot infringe this patent. The lawsuit between Darton and Elite is ongoing. Elite is vigorously defending its position and is confident that it ultimately will prevail."
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[/align]Hey, where have I heard this before. " Invalid patent"
[/align]No one knows what the outcome will be but it won't cause Elite to go out of business. At worst , they will have to pay Darton, "like other bow companies," royalties on the bows they sell with the binary cam system.
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I think that's best. As far as dealers being threatened, they continued to do business with elite even after elite was confronted by Darton. Your smart enough to wait it out...

I can't remember, who arethe owners of this compny?

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The owner of the co.'s name is Kevin. He was aBowtech design engineer if I remember right.
Don't forget, the suit involved 2007 bows , not 2008 design. Elite's cams are redesigned this year.

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I find it real hard for myself to even look at a Elite for this one reason I cant support a man that gets fired from one company talks all kinds of BS about it saying its garbage and that their limbs are weak and just totally looking like an idot making an A$$ out of himself just to put down and company he was fired from. If that was true he was the CP of that company he is as much to blame as anyone but all his tlak was untrue.

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There is a lot too that we just do not know. He was not just an employee, he was co-founder also I think.

What is done, is done as far as I am concearned

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Having shot almost all of the "speed" bows. The GTO is the smoothest bow out the pile.

You get the speed without the harsher draw cycle or the hand shock or the almost non existant valley. The GTO doesn't try to jump if you relax off the solid wall just a tad like some other speed bows do.
If I didn't have monkey arms this would be my bow to shoot this year.

This thread is funny... people ask for opinions and then peoplet that give them get attacked.

Maybe people should ask for opinions that agree with their own personal opinions instead.

Such as...."I would like to know if the GTO is a good bow...but don't post if you think its betterthan a Matthews cause I will ridicule you for youropinion":)

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Agree...quite frankly, I could care less about the personalities behind the scenes. When I go shopping for a new bow, I want the best piece of equipment for my money. Archery is not about politics for me, it is a chance to get away and forget about the stressors of the world and get in touch with nature and God. I have an Elite Fire on the way....all this bickering is meaningless past that.;)

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Didn't he alsomarry the martin girl?. I don't trust either and wouldn't do business with either.

I also heard that the 2008's are the reason Darton is stepping things up a bit, I believe they are also in question.

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Yes they are in question(2008's) and Kevin is no longer the owner or at least the sole owner.

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He is still the owner and I don'tTHINK there is anyone else , but you'd have to ask him.
And yes, I stand corrected. Darton is questioning the design of the Elite cams again, just like the '07's. Elite did not fight the patent infringement on the '07 model bows, but is on the '08's. Darton feels that Elite needs to pony up some $ per bow.
ANY manufacturer w/ a Binary cam pays Darton royalties since they hold the patent on the design.

I don't really care what happens except that if Darton's patent is upheld, it'll cost another $10.00 for a bow. It could take a year or two to find out.

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Yes he did marry the martin girl. No he doesnt own any of the company to my knowledge. I dont know the whole story they do but for him and his wife to get on archery talk and to be that way about something he also was apart of is speaking bad of himself as well. He was the VP of bowtech. I just cant support somebody that will talk about somebody in that way and IMO it was so he could start his own company and try to shut bowtech down. Well good job it worked. NOT There still makeing the top bows and coming out with new design without him so I guess he wasnt that big for the company. I think he out grew his own pants.

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I love how Germ thinks...

"How heavy can my arrows be, and still shoot 270 fps?"

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There wasa time when I agreed wholeheartedly with you about Kevin and his actions. No doubt, they were immature and showed some sour grapes over losing his job at Bowtech. However, since then he his realized his mistakes and admitted to them and made a very sincere effort to recant the things he has said. While it doesn't undo the wrongs, IMO it takes a big man to admit he is wrong. I know I have made mistakes and know how hard it is to swallow my pride and admit to them, so I give him credit there.

With that said, I don't really care about the behind-the-scenes stuff anymore and really care about what is going to be the best bow for me. The last two years I have been extremely impressed with Elite's offerings and while I'm not looking to buy a new compound this year, I can't wait to see what they come up with next year. There just might be an Elite in my hand if they keep cranking out bows of the same caliber.

RE: Elite GTO
 

Yes, very smooth. Totally different for a speed bow. My 82nd had a rough valley/short wrist slapping brace height and this is very smooth and easy to draw.
None that I can tell
Mine chronos at 330 fps with a 350 gr arrow 71#. With a 360 gr arrow it chronos at 321 fps. This is stock strings and straight offf of the store rack. Pretty fast for a 7" brace height bow and a nice smooth draw cycle. I like this bow. Quite a shooter; very accurate, quiet, and shock free on the shot. I broke it in with a nice bird shortly after I bought it this spring. I found it brand new on a dealers rack on clearance. I like the round wheels for cams. The Barnsdale Limbs are a nice feature in a bow too. Amazing how they get this kind of speed out of a nice drawing and generous brace height like they do.

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We know HCH, we know.;)

But isn't there a site just for this now?

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!P oor ole Germ needed answers you know;)

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Best part is I never got a Damn GTO, I get a GT500 and in the wrong color:D

I sold the thing a month ago, but thanks for the imput!!

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Your'e welcome. You better get a GTO and a GT500. This time, get the color you want:D

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They never made a GTO LH model, I really wanted that bow. Like you I love the round wheels.

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ManI was stupid [:@]