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Bob I'm not sure how that compares to other stores selling the same camera.....but it looks like a good deal, to me. I recently bought a Sony with 8.3mp (little smaller than that)....and the prices are comparable. I think my zoom is a little more....but to be honest....i trust Nikon a LOT.
If I were in the market for a small-ish digital cam.....I wouldn't hesitate to buy this one. good luck. |
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The MP is good, and nice big view screen, but 3x zoom is'nt much.I think you'll end up wanting more zoom
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SEEMS ALITTLE HIGH ON THE PRICE, IT'S WATER TIGHT, NOT PROOF. AND ALSO, CRUSH PROOF CASE, THAT'S NOT REFERRING TO THE CAMERA IT SELF. SEEMS LIKE IT'S TRYING TO GET MORE $ OUT OF YOUR POCKET FOR NOT ALOT OF UP GRADESTHAT MOST REGULAR DIGITALS HAVE TOO. YOU CAN GET A 12MP WITH 5X ZOOM FROM SAM'S CLUB FOR 189.99 JUST GET A GOOD CARRY CASE AND ANY CAMERA WILL DO.YOU CANGET 8MP FOR LESS THAN $130THESE DAYS.3X ZOOM ISN'T THAT GOOD EITHER.I USE THE ONE I MENTIONED ABOVE ,WHILE HUNTIND AND FISHING. I BOUGHT A $4 CASE AT WALLY WORLD, THAT IS WATER PROOF AND CRUSH RESISTANT. ONLY THING MINE NEEDED WAS RECHARGABLE BATTERIES($10) MORE. BUT I REALLY ENJOY IT. IF YOU DO BUY THAT NIKON, WRITE A REVIEW..PROS, CONS, WORTH THE MONEY OR NOT, ON HERE. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PURCHASE.
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One thing I know is tech stuff, i dont know if this will help or if you already knew this, but the Megapixels is just how big the overall picture will be, not the quality, hope that helped some, if at all.
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MP DO COUNT TOWARDS THE QUALITY OF SHOTS. THE MORE MP, THE CLEARER THE IMAGE. YOU CAN GET BIGGER PRINTS ALSO. IF MP DIDNT MATTER, THAN WHY DO PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS USE SUCH HIGH MP'S? WHY WOULD THEY EVEN MAKE AN 8MP IF THEY HAVE 1.3 AND 3MP ON THE MARKET FOR YEARS? THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. ENLIGHTEN ME IF I'M WRONG.
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Thanks guys, Iappreciate all the thoughts, that's why I posed the question. I'll keep looking and see how things stack up in comparison.
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Its the size of the total image, for instance, if you take a 12 mp camera and take a picture the image quality is great at 12,000,000pixels (or 1200 pixles like a computer screen) if you take a 8 MP shot(8,000,000), and try to stretch it to a 12MP again 12,000,000, it looks like crap. The reason they get Cameras with such High mega pixels is because they can
1. edit them without it being noticable 2. will fit any size posters, billboards, what have you. The quality will stay the same if you go down, but never up, try d/l a 800 pixel picture and putting it on your desktop (assuming you have a 1200xXXX amount computer screen) Hope this helps.:D Most of the quality of pictures is lighting, shutter setting, and lens, MP do make a difference only if you want good quality@ a large size. |
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www.digicamhelp.com
This might help as well! Good Luck, took me a while to buy my fiance's camera, and that was just online there is always a lot of "What ifs" |
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SO ARE YOU SAYING A 1.3 IS EQUAL TO 5MP? IF NOT, THAN MP'S DO COUNT. THAT'S MY POINT. 8 MP IS GOOD, THAT WASN'T THE POST TOPIC HERE. HE WAS WANTING DIRECT ADVICE ABOUT CAMERAS IN GENERAL FOR THE MONEY. DO YOU THINK THAT NIKON IS A GREAT BUY AT $200? I REALLY THINK HE COULD DO ALOT BETTER WITH THAT MONEY, THAN THAT CAMERA. YES IT IS TRUE THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 5MP AND 8MP IS NEAR INVISIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE ON A SMALL PRINT, I KNOW WHEN I BLOW UP A PHOTO, IT IS NOT DISTORED/BLURRY AT POSTER SIZE. IF YOU CAN SEND ME A 1MP PICTURE OF ANYTHING, BLOWN UP THAT LOOKS ASGOOD AS A 12MP CAMERA'S PHOTO, I WILLBE HAPPY TO CALL YOU MASTER OF KNOWLEDGE.:D STILL FRIENDS RIGHT?;)
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Personally I use a Fuji Finepix S5000 for hunting and fishing. Comparable price and love the quality and ability to add filters/lenses. With my 1 gig card, I can take 15 minutes or so of video with it that does not come out choppy. Good luck on your search.
For finer photos, I use the Canon EOS 5D but definately would not take that out hunting. |
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Oh yeah, im not disagreeing with that, there is no way 1MP will stretch out to 5MP, just dont base it soley on that, I guess we can be pals. HaHa yeah no worries man, I just know thats one thing I was confused about when I was in the market. All depends what you want to do with it!
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For an extra $50, I would go with the Panaxonic Lumix DMC-FZ5 http://hotbuyselectronics.com/panasonic_dmc_fz5.htm It is a little bigger in size and has less mega-pixels (5), but it has a 12X optical zoom, a Leica lens, and the large lens will make for MUCH better quality pictures in low light conditions. The camera is actually suprisingly easy to carry afield and the pictures that you can get with it are amazing. My best friend had a previous model that was only 4MP and took some stunning photos with it, here are a few of his using this camera...
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Don't get too hung up on megapixels. They only start to matter much if you enlarge past 8x10". As in film photography a quality lense is far more important and the quality of your image is based on the quality of the processer inside the camera ( the brain ). There are prfessional photographers using 6 pixel cameras that are worth over a thousand dollars for the body only. Most people will rarely print past 5x7 and almost never crop or edit the pictures. Most point & shoots are all about equal in processor quality and glass for a given price point. The price climbs with features like lcd screen size. Right now 8 pixels and 3x zoom is the biggest part of the point & shoot range.
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I do like nikon. However, the MP argument, although off topic, does pertain to Bob's question. MP's do matter...to an extent. The problem is, especially on most consumer P&S cameras, manufacturers use the MP number as a marketing tool. What I mean is, they will often take the same sensor from pervious models (that were lower MP) and just up the MP. What you get with increased MP is increased noise (especially on a sensor designed for say a 5-6mp camera). More pixels means less photons captured per pixel, which generates "noise" or grain in your photograph. Sure it allows you to blow images up and make large crops, but generally most "PRO's" realize the MP is more or less the least deciding factor when choosing a camera, and advise for you to compose the picture in the viewfinder when you take the picture, rather than cropping later on. They know that really a GOOD camera starts with good GLASS. The lens is the heart and soul of IQ (image quality). Nikon generally has a bit "sharper" IQ with their glass, whereas Canon generally has a much smoother even tone to it's images. Canon lenses also tend to be a bit faster (especially the pro L lenses, but that's for DSLR's so we won't go into that).
Now what does this have to do with Bob's post? The MP craze is just that...a craze. What's nice is that it makes "older" cameras in the production line drop in price. For instance, I shoot an Canon A610 which can be had for the price close to this Nikon that bob's asking about. Even though my A610 is only 5mp, it's on a sensor sized for the camera, has a rotating LCD, Digic II, FULL manual controls (plus several program modes, aperture priority, shutter priority, etc, solid zoom, and takes AMAZING pictures). Plus the A620 (7mp version) and other deviations are available all close to this cameras price point. I would look at a few reviews of "older" cameras, perhaps 1 year old in the Nikon and Canon line. You may end up saving some decent money and even gaining a camera that can produce even better IQ. Just my $.02. |
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GR8, looks like a good camera and a good price. I own several of the smaller cameras like the Sony Cybershot 8 MP, but have found the DLSRs with detatchable lenses offer much more in taking pictures like with F stops etc. Here is an example, 1st pic is with a Cybershot, second pic is with a Nikon D40x. Much more detail anddepth even though the Nikon was taken at 30 yards and the Cyber show was at about 10 yards. The DLSRs can do a much better job especially for taking pictures at 10 yards + like of deer in fields, or whatever your target is.
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My current camera is a 4MP, it's a couple of years old but still works well. I probably wouldn't go any lower than 4 or 5 megapixels.
You also want a camera that has a optical zoom (not just digital). I also like cameras that use standard AA batteries (in case my recharables run out). My wife had a nikon dig cam that use some type of special recharable battery. Was a pain if the juice ever ran out. I am a fan of Nikon products in general. That being said, my 4MP Sony took WAY better pictures than my wifes 5MP Nikon... I would get a camera that has good reviews. The camera in the link you provided doesn't seem to have a lot if info on it - not necessarily bad... I also put my camera case in a ziplock baggie when heading out to the field... |
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WOW thanks everyone.. Here's what I learned! I KNOW NOTHING!
Loadsmasher, WVSportsman (turn them caps off ;)) Buck magnet awesome pics Diesel..Great info Matt great info, and as soon as I get a translator, I'll learn how good! :D I appreciate all the effort.. Now one more Question. SUGGEST WHAT CAMERA TO BUY...PARAMETERS: Good quality, that probably won't go much farther than a computer screen. Maybe an occasional8x10 The Camera I have a Nikon Coolpix 775 (bought new 5 years ago) takes so long to trigger, I could dodge the picture. So I want fast trigger speed and as quiet as possible. To make it a challenge lets keep the $200 range. |
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GR8, I have been shooting photos for 40+ years and if you can find one, get a Fuji Finepix S5000. It is like a 35mm camera in that you look through the lens, but can switch to the lcd if you want. If I remember correctly, it has a 10x optical. You can set the quality of photos you want from 1mp to 6.3 mp. You can attach different filters to it. It has a fast trigger speed and if you have experience with 35mm's, you can set different f stops and shutter speeds. I bought mine 3 years ago and it is fantastic for hunting, fishing, and camping. I have blown photos from this camera up to poster size and had them turn out really nice. I paid $229 for mine. Please do yourself a favor and check them out.
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AF..thanks
Do I have to know about shutter speeds and f-stops (I don't) to make that baby work? |
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Thats where the auto setting or video settings come in handy. Point, shoot, smile. Pretty dang simple. Here's a photo taken with my fuji....
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Skimmed through the thread really quick. Gr8... I think it might help if you elaborated as to what you would like to take pictures of. If just everyday things and nothing "long distance" then I think you would do fine with a typical "point and shoot" camera. If you are looking to take more professional pics or looking to shoot things from a distance (ie deer in a field, birds in flight etc) then a DSLR would be the best option. Now again... what you want to pay will also be a factor. There are NUMEROUS point and shoot digi cams at reasonable prices. When you get into DSLR's, the prices go up and depending on the glass you buy with them, you can spend a lot more.
I have a Canon Cybershot for my little digi and a Nikon D40 for my nice camera (2 lenses as well). I will say that I love my Nikon for the fact that I can play with the f-stop and shutter speed etc. Both work fine for what I bought them for. Don't get caught into the hype that you need to buy a $500 camera to take good pictures. With that said, just do some decent research before you decide. I'd post some pics I've taken over the last year or so, but don't want to clutter the thread. As for the megapixel debate. Of course they mean something. But unless you are going to be creating HUGE prints and printing them out, don't worry too much about that. My D40 is around 6MP and my Powershot is 7.1MP. Unless I am blowing them up to REALLY high-res pics, its not noticeable. So don't buy into all the hype that more MP is necessarily better than less. Keep us posted on your search! |
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Yeah, sorry if it didnt help, It was a pain in the a$$ for me too!
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No offense meant ........BUT ......
buying a camera from Cabela's would be like....mmm.....'a fish riding a bicycle' getting a medical opinion from your mailman. Go to a camera/video place that sells them. |
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I have the same camera as Buck Magnet, the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ5. This is a great camera and it will take video as well. What ever you get make sure it has a image stabilizer, this helps with a high zoom pictures. A must in my book for shooting pics outdoors!
Here is a couple pics I've taken with mine: close up of a small flower on my property! ![]() The Agora. Zoomed in, 12x all the way, still pretty good quality and size! I took this from a top of the Acropolis in Greece. ![]() |
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