Technical question - Twisted Peep
 

I am one who centers his peep housing in my peep when I shoot. I center the whole housing....creating a "halo" effect around my housing. That's how I know I have my housing "centered".

So.....what would be the result if my peep was rotated, slightly, to the right when I was at full draw? When this was happening....I could only center the housing (and not get the halo around it).

What's your opinion of where my arrow would hit? Explain, if you don't mind.

Thanks.

RE: Technical question - Twisted Peep
 

Jeff do you have a scope sighted rifle? handy

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Nope, Jim. Never owned one. Sorry.

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Just a very simple way to eliminate any concerns you might have with your sight.

If you place a dime on the front lens of a rifle scope it will block a huge portion of your viewing area,or so you would think,because when you raise the rifle and look thru the scope the dime will not be visible to you.:eek:

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That went over my head.(sorry, Jim)

What would be the result of the twisted peep I described, above.

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Kind of like playing Darts when you have the dart in front of you and focusing on the target you dont really see the dart or pay attention to it?

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Twist your peep a little before u draw back and shoot an arrow...see where it impacts...The best way is to see for yourself. As long as you can center your ring, I don't see it making a tremendous difference.

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I "think" (and I could be wrong) you guys are making this more "zen" than it needs to be.

Isn't this a simple physics/geometry type question? You know......IF/THEN?

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Let me tell you my "theory"....and you guys tell me if you think it holds water.

Ok....If my peep isn't fully rotating around....and is pointing a little to the left....what I'll be looking at when I come to full draw is elongated and not perfectly round. To make it perfectly round.....I have to turn my bow SLIGHTLY to the right (to compensate for the admittedly minor amount the peep is not fully rotated.

"Could" this cause me to shoot a "little" right? There's a reason I ask.;)

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Do you mean center your sight housing inyour peep?

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It depends on how much light you have and how good you are. You can still shoot that way but it's not as clear a sight picture. What they were trying to say with the dime and the dart and all that, if you shoot with both eyes open you'll still beable to center it. I offer it will be harder in poor light. And we know we get a lot of shady and early/late shots. I'd break the bow down and twist the string to bring the peep back to square... or........ I'd walk the loop around the string to make it square. It's best to have it nice and tidy... but you can shoot with a twist. It's just a little less clear.

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Yes. (Duh)....Sorry![8D] That's exactly what I meant to say.

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No

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I don't think it would make a difference. Just because you now have an egg instead of a perfect circle,it doesn't meanthe verticle centerline of the peep sight itselfhas changed. Because of that, if you center the pin sight inside the "egg", theleft/right poi should theoretically remain the same.

I too shoot as you do and have experimented while having that same problem. The only real difference in my shots was due to me not liking the egg which instilled a lack of confidence in me.

You string is stretching and all you need to do is put the bow in a press and rotate the string 1/2 turn in the right direction. Note: after you do this, don't expect it to come in right away. It always took about a dozen shots for mine to settle. Oh, stay at the bowshop while you attempt to do this. Sometimes 1/2 is not enough. I'm lucky I had a homemade bow press that I welded up so it cost me no money or gas.

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Well.....What "I" have to fight when I shoot targets is....maintaining the "halo" around my sight ring.

What I've learned about me is......I let the sight housing creep to the left in my peep picture. What I HAVE to do is....maintain the halo....and see daylight on the left side of my sight housing.

So....if my peep's twisted....and I try to maintain the "daylight"/"halo" on the left side.....where would my arrow go?

RE: Technical question - Twisted Peep
 

In case you're wondering....I dropped a lot of points at a 3D shoot this morning.[:@]:D

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I was thinking left but I might be just as confused on this one now. I should know better I am weak on the tech side of things.[:@]
Any chance to capture a pic of this?

RE: Technical question - Twisted Peep
 

It depends if your string is twisting clockwise or counter clockwise.

If c/w then your poi will be more left

If c/cw then your poi will be more right

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I said earlier that my peep wasn't fully rotating around. I'm not quite sure how to explain which way it's pointing....but I think that should tell you what you're looking for.

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I almost sense you have the answer and just quizzing here?

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Thinking about it, I thought wrong. It doesn't matter if the peep is slightly cw or ccw, the poi will still be a little to the right because:

The circle has been reduced to an egg, meaning it's horizontal diameter has also been reduced. Since you are maintaining the halo on the left side of the peep, you are foreced to look through the peep maybe 1/32 to 1/64 inch to the right of it's original position.

With a bow, if you move the front of the alignment points (meaning the pinsight) the poi will move in the opposite direction. This is why "they" tell you to "follow the arrow" when adjusting your pin. The opposite if true for example with a rifle. If you move the rear alignment point, the poi will go in the same direction you moved the sight.

Since you are forced to look 1/32 to 1/64 to the right to maintain your halow on the left side of the pin guard, you essentially have adjusted your bow like a rifle and the poi is hitting more right. How much right? -not much, it's the equivalent of moving your pinsight 1/32 to the left. Perhaps an inch to an inch and a half.

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Hoytail

That's what I was thinking....and it made sense in the field, today. I shot 8, 8, 8, 8, 10, and 8 on my first 6 targets, today. I twisted my d-loop a little so that it was aligned again....and only shot one more 8 in the last 14 targets.

EACH and EVERY 8 I shot in the beginning was perfect for elevation (meaning I got the yardage right).....but was off to the right on windage.

I'm happy I brought it home, good.....but I'd like to know what I coud have shot.[&:]

RE: Technical question - Twisted Peep
 

You're fighting the sight. Your anchor and the spot should be your concentration. You're looking at the sight and not the spot. Let the shot happen, back tension, relax.... it'll go off.

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Hey David....thanks for checking in.

I DO focus on the target. I check my peep/sight housing alignment with my left eye closed.....JUST FOR A SPLIT SECOND. then I open them both and focus on the target. "Sometimes"....I might close the left eye again to make sure I've still got the "halo". But rest assured.....I AM focusing on the target.

I agree that this is vitally important to note. Thanks!

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You can also just puch the peep into place at full draw. I have to do it when I first put a peep in.

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I agree with what Hoyttail is saying. Best solution to the problem, go back to the tried and true tubed peep site. I've played around with a few different styles, but always ended up back where I started. Get a tubed peep, use a SILICON tube, not a rubber one, and never worry about it again. Just my thoughts. I've never drawn back with a tubed peep and thought "Whoa, somethings needs straightened??" If I do, then I've really got problems.