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BigJ71 01-13-2008 10:02 PM

Euro Mount Help.....
 
After reading and looking at all of the cool euro mounts that have been posted lately, it made me think about redoing an old euro mount of mine. So I dug it out of my crawl space and dusted it off.

I needsome ideas of how to go about painting it and bringing the antlers back to a more natural color.

I already got some great ideas from Quicksilver (thanks Fran) but I'd also like to hear other opinions.

Here area few pics, I guess we can use them as "before photos" I will post the "after photos" once I figure out what exactly I'm going to do with it and finish the job.

Ok, so the floor is open for suggestions, help me bring this back toa more presentable mount.

Pics...






BigJ71 01-13-2008 10:03 PM

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Last pic.




shed33 01-14-2008 01:03 AM

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wish I could help bigj...but i was gonna suggest frans input.. looks like he beat me to it... good luck, nice looking buck btw.. gonna make a nice addition to the man-room there!

atlasman 01-14-2008 01:12 AM

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How's this??



Roskoe 01-14-2008 08:34 AM

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This looks like a fairly easy project. I might soak the skull in a strong bleach solution for a couple of days just to get it cleaned up - rinse - let dry out for a couple of days. I would tape off the base of the horns and "flock" the skull with antique white spray paint. Hold the can back several feet and just give it a light dusting of the off-white paint. You don't really paint it.

Then lightly dab some walnut stain on the antlers with a small artist's brush. You want to do this fairly conservatively - don't get the antlers too dark. A slightly blotchy effect looks the best.

BigJ71 01-14-2008 03:33 PM

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Thanks guys for your input, please keep it coming!

Atlas,

Tell me more about that skull painting....looks interesting.



BigJ71 01-14-2008 04:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: Roskoe

This looks like a fairly easy project. I might soak the skull in a strong bleach solution for a couple of days just to get it cleaned up - rinse - let dry out for a couple of days. I would tape off the base of the horns and "flock" the skull with antique white spray paint. Hold the can back several feet and just give it a light dusting of the off-white paint. You don't really paint it.

Then lightly dab some walnut stain on the antlers with a small artist's brush. You want to do this fairly conservatively - don't get the antlers too dark. A slightly blotchy effect looks the best.
Do you really think I need to bleach it again? This skull is about 20 years old, I was just going to wash off the dust and have at it. I'm not as worried about the skull as I am the antlers. I don't mind (kinda like actually) the white painted skull, but I really want the antlers to look as natural as possible.



Roskoe 01-14-2008 06:25 PM

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Might not be absolutely necessary to bleach the skull again. I was thinking that, after all this time, it might not hurt to get it real clean again before the light coat of paint. The flocking effect on the skull looks real good, and tends to even out the various tones of white.

The horns aren't real difficult, but require a little bit of artistic talent to look right. The stain is lightly dabbed on near the bases with a very small artist brush; and put on more in a light brush-stroke application on the main beams. I would leave the tips white.

gzg38b 01-14-2008 06:44 PM

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I did alot of research before I did my Euro mount. The one thing most taxidermists said was to NEVER bleach a skull. Bleaching a skull is bad for it, and too much bleaching can turn it powdery and flaky.

To get it nice and white, I'd soak it in a hydrogen peroxide solution (20% solution from a beauty supply shop is best. You can use the 3% stuff from Walmart but it takes longer to work).

Place the skull in the peroxide, keeping the antlers out of it. Wet paper towels with the peroxide solution and lay them over the top of the skull. Keep the paper towel wet.

For the antlers, I'd use regular wood stain at the bases to give them that dark look. Or you can buy antler stain from a taxidermist. Wood stain works fine though.

If you are totally lazy like me, you can just spray paint it with a low gloss textured white paint. I did this on mine and it turned out fine. The textured surface looked very "bony" and natural.





bloodcrick 01-14-2008 06:45 PM

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Atlas, i like that ;)did you do that??

ORIGINAL: atlasman

How's this??



BigJ71 01-14-2008 09:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: gzg38b

I did alot of research before I did my Euro mount. The one thing most taxidermists said was to NEVER bleach a skull. Bleaching a skull is bad for it, and too much bleaching can turn it powdery and flaky.

To get it nice and white, I'd soak it in a hydrogen peroxide solution (20% solution from a beauty supply shop is best. You can use the 3% stuff from Walmart but it takes longer to work).

Place the skull in the peroxide, keeping the antlers out of it. Wet paper towels with the peroxide solution and lay them over the top of the skull. Keep the paper towel wet.

For the antlers, I'd use regular wood stain at the bases to give them that dark look. Or you can buy antler stain from a taxidermist. Wood stain works fine though.

If you are totally lazy like me, you can just spray paint it with a low gloss textured white paint. I did this on mine and it turned out fine. The textured surface looked very "bony" and natural.





Great looking euro! That's what I'm after....

I realy like the contrast between the white skull and the dark antlers. I also plan on painting the skull but I'm not sure if I should go with gloss or flat paint.

Did you do anything to the anlters?

atlasman 01-15-2008 03:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: bloodcreek

Atlas, i like that ;)did you do that??

ORIGINAL: atlasman

How's this??




Nah........I just found the pic and thought it looked cool.

I did see a bunch of guys painting stuff like dates and pics of crossing arrows and stuff on them last year at the outdoors shows though........that was cool too.

Saw another dipped in bronze and that was sweet.

Here is a pic of a dipped metal one for ya big guy.



rybohunter 01-15-2008 05:56 AM

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I think those metalized skulls are some of the COOLEST looking things ever made.

shed33 01-15-2008 09:31 AM

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Dang, that metal is wild! very cool..

quiksilver 01-15-2008 09:58 AM

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Is it really metal, or is it just metallic paint?


If you knew somebody who had a good paintgun - you could probably get a mix of your favorite color automotive paint - and do it to match your car.


rybohunter 01-15-2008 10:28 AM

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There is a place that actually deposits metal to the skull. (and in my former line of work, I used that application (metal deposition) in a different manufacturing industry) I had always wondered if metallic paint would give similar results.

burniegoeasily 01-15-2008 10:29 AM

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Id suggest to clean it with dish washing soap and water, then spraying it with Kils primer. Ive got some that are over 10 years old that look as good as the day I did them. Kils will soak into the bone and seal it. Keeps it from discoloring and keeps it looking like dried bleached bone.

tsoc 01-15-2008 11:31 AM

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Some great ideas given here and some great looking Euro's.That metal dipping or painting is very cool! I will have one done or do one like that myself in the future.

BigJ71 01-15-2008 12:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

Id suggest to clean it with dish washing soap and water, then spraying it with Kils primer. Ive got some that are over 10 years old that look as good as the day I did them. Kils will soak into the bone and seal it. Keeps it from discoloring and keeps it looking like dried bleached bone.
Burnie,

Do you need to paint over the Kils primer or is that the only paint you use....just primer?

Thanks all for the suggestions.......One more question, should I have the nose repaired or leave it like it is. It was broken some 10 years ago in a fall and I kinda glued it back together.:)

BigJ71 01-15-2008 10:22 PM

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Any more suggestions???? Anybody?:D

TFOX 01-15-2008 11:05 PM

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Big

This is the first deer my daughter ever killed,she was only 8.We did not find it untill the next year,almost 1 year to the day.Amazingly,it hadn't been chewed on or anything,just slightly bleached from the sun.I have thought about cleaning it up and doing a euro mount but displaying it the way it was found is kind of cool.

I think it looks similar to yours.
Check out the boards she broke for black belt.:D



BigJ71 01-15-2008 11:09 PM

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Very cool.... (both the skull AND the broken boards!)



TFOX 01-15-2008 11:19 PM

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Judging from the boards one would think she was a well built child,not the case at all.


lord help me.She is only 13 here.Eyes look crazy because I removed the red eye.



BigJ71 01-15-2008 11:27 PM

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Good looking kid there TFOX...you're gonna have your hands full pretty soon.;)

rybohunter 01-16-2008 04:36 AM

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TFox
You need to employ those tactics from that song that's out now. "Cleaning this gun" I thnk Rodney Atkins sings it.

TFOX 01-16-2008 01:29 PM

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I know,but it makes me feel a little better knowing she can somewhat defend herself.:)

Plus her little brother is mean as a snake and got his black belt when he was 7.Should have seen him break that same board.[8D]

burniegoeasily 01-16-2008 01:34 PM

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Here is what the kilz looks like on them. These Euro mounts are from one year to 10 years old. All done with Kilz and never touched up or cleaned. Top I did this year, middle about 4 years ago, and the bottom is over 10 years old. Still white as the day I did them.



BigJ71 01-16-2008 01:38 PM

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Great looking euro mounts Burnie and great looking deer too!

Where can I find Kilz?

burniegoeasily 01-16-2008 02:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: BigJ71

Great looking euro mounts Burnie and great looking deer too!

Where can I find Kilz?
Thanks. You can find it at just about any store. Walmart, or any hardware store. Its just a paint primer. I get the spray kind. One can will do several skulls. Ive done 5 boar head with a can I have right now. I guess it doesnt have to be Kilz brand. Thats the brand ive alway used. Its just an oil based primer.

burniegoeasily 01-16-2008 02:13 PM

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Oh, one other thing, get the oil based. They make a latex based now, that ive not tried, but I assume it will do like latex paint and start to orange pill over time. That is when the bones start to leech out oil. The same oils that make the bones look yellow after a while. It wont bother the oil based. I made the mistake of using paint one time, with out primer, and the skull orang pilled after about 6 years and made a big mess.

Killer_Primate 01-16-2008 02:16 PM

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Don't waste your money on latex kilz. Get the oil base.

BigJ71 01-16-2008 03:16 PM

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Ok, so no matter what I decide to do as far a painting, it's a consensus that I should be using oil based paint right?

I'm going to attempt it this weekend so I have from now till then to decide exactly what to do.

Thanks for the help guys, it's much appreciated.

TEmbry 01-16-2008 03:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: atlasman

Saw another dipped in bronze and that was sweet.

Here is a pic of a dipped metal one for ya big guy.


This is probably the coolest Euro i have ever seen. Anyone have any ideas on what it would cost to dip one of these like the pic?

burniegoeasily 01-17-2008 07:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: BigJ71

Ok, so no matter what I decide to do as far a painting, it's a consensus that I should be using oil based paint right?

I'm going to attempt it this weekend so I have from now till then to decide exactly what to do.

Thanks for the help guys, it's much appreciated.
Never tried oil based paint, but if you prime it with a oil based primer, you can paint it with what ever you want.

twildasin 01-17-2008 08:18 AM

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I did this one in a glass case with a night light! Real nice at nighttime!

quiksilver 01-17-2008 08:33 AM

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Ya knowfellas - I was thinking... I bet you could take your skull to someplace that does airbrushing - and have whatever you wanted painted onto it.Specifically -somewhere that paints goalie masks - and have them paint your euromount.

http://www.imageairbrush.com/

It would be pretty awesome to have a true one-of-a-kind, personalizedeuromount. BigJ - For you, I'd be thinking something with the old Denver Broncos logo in the background, with a big #71 across the forehead.

Something where people see it and say "WOW! NowTHAT is AWESOME!"




burniegoeasily 01-17-2008 09:43 AM

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Quick
That would be cool. this thread has got my creative mind going and thinking of some cool things to do to euro mounts. Especially boars.


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