coyote trouble
 

I had somthing happen to me this morning that i would like to share.
Being from georgia coyotes are plentyfull, and i really enjoy bowhunting for them. Iam no expert but i have pretty good sucsess doing it. My neighbors son who is 15 asked me last night if i would take him hunting this morning, I thought that would be cool seeing as most of my hunts are solo. I figured with a extra set of eyes we couldnt go wrong. On arriving to pick him up he was still sleeping, that kind of urked me. I try to get in the woods well before sun up and now would be arriving late. But still excited about things to come we took off to my family's farm. I set him up around 15 yards behind me overlooking a brush field on the downwind side, exactly where i expected the yotes to come from. I chose to watch a cornerwhere field and woods intersect, being armed with a bow and him with a 243, I thought this would be a good chance for him to take his first coyote.I waited about 15 min before i started calling.After the first set of soft calling we had a yotecomming well behind me and to my left, I had no chance of a shoot. Excitement began to build as the coyote was on a crash course straight to my partner.I watched as the dog passedjust feet to the right of the guy. What happened next is what has me so upset. As I watchedthe dogpass, i noticed that my partners gun was still sitting in his lap,this is not good i thought. 15 yards later the gun still hasnt moved. Fearing that my youngfreind had forgot what i told him about stoppinga moving yote, I blewthe coyote a kissand stopped him dead in his tracks at 25 yards from my partner. Still no movement from my buddy, after 20 secs the coyote gotthe idea that what ever made that noise wasnt food so he left. My imediate response was to ask the guy if he was asleep, the second the words came out of my mouth i regreted them. My reason for sharing this with you, is that I plan on applying for a job as a guide for a local hunting plantation come the first of the year, after reacting the way i did im starting to second guess my self. Bowhunting is a passion of mine and i wonder ifI have the patience to deal withpeople freezing under pressure. I guess what bothered me the most is the fact thatit meant alot to me to call in the kids first coyote. I dont know you tell me was I wrong about getting upset? How would you react in that situation? Please give me some feed back,Im relly looking forward to that guide job.
Thank for your time

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I say the kid is 15 years old and probably should get a bit of a break. I remember when I was 16 I fell asleep deer hunting with my uncle and woke up to his .270 going off as he shot a nice8 pointer. Taught me a lesson! :D

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Hunter that young on his first dog hunt really needs the encouragement of the guide right next to him, he may have just froze!

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If that irritated you, you may want to rethink the "guide" lifestyle. My best friend is a guide, in Mexico right now, and he can tell you that working with people hunting can be far worse than that. Gut shots, misses, shooting the wrong animals, bad attitudes, etc all make for the more frustrating days than the one you had. When I hunted with him in Alberta, one of the hunters actually shot a huge mulie in the rump. I mean the deer was facing away from the hunter, hard cross wind and shot it at about 60yrds. The mulie was shot 4" down and 3" to the right from its "brown eye". It ran off and laid down, luckily the guide watched it all and continued to watch the deer for another 6 hrs before it expired. Things like that are not everyday occurances, but they happen fairly often. Then you have the rich guys that think that you owe them because they paid for the hunt, not realizing that it's a hunt and there are no guarantees.

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I've taken a few folks to the woods in the past, mostly new people, no money involved. The only thing thatI absolutely demand from them is that they respect the animal and take good, clean shots. That they dont go out there thinking its some sort of video game.

Other than that, if they fall asleep, lose interest, get impatient, get cold.....thats on them. I'll do my best to explain to them what should or may happen, what to expect, and how to react, and set them up for the best chance I can.......but I know I can never impose my passion for the sport on someone else, because usually they just dont have the same passion, and then it ends up not being fun for them or me.

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I'm guessing the kid is just not into hunting like you and I and others on this forum. If anyone would of hunted with me at that age they would of had a hard time shutting me up, I get excited when I go hunting, I love it that much. Seems the excitement isn't there with the young fella! If your going to guide you can pick who you want to guide for, make your picks accordingly!

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Younger Kids don't have the patients like some people....but then again when I was younger I would have jumped at the chance to go out hunting and couldn't sleep just thinking about it! :D

I would have said something to the young man about staying awake and paying attention....maybe he was startled when he saw the coyote and froze up?Sometimes it just happens when your younger and in-experienced?If you plan on Guiding People to Hunt and they have the opportunity to make a good shot and they screw up it is their fault for not following through...not yours!

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Being a Fly Fishing and Upland Bird Hunting Guide, my advice to you would be to work on that attitude some.People hire guides for many reasons.
First thingI do is ask them how much experience they have, and what they expect of me. Some will be pro's at whatyou do for a living and for them your job is easy, you get them on the fish or game and let them do their thing. Others wont have a clue and need to becoached the whole day. Then there is everything in between. And I can tell you this, none of them is paying to seeyourattitude when things dont go your way, at least not a second time!

Save your attitude for the ones that think they own you because they have paid for your services for the day.
Had 3 attorneys one time, and one of them was a smart azz right off the batt, at the end of the day smart azz and one of the others came in with me, one stayed in the field hunting on his own and he still had 2 birds in his vest he wanted to carry himself. The wife cleaned the birds we had, and took them out to them, comes back in with tears in her eyes and said, Smart azz said she shortedthem 2 birds, the wife tried to explain the other member of their party still had 2 birds in his vest when he called her a liying B...H and a THIEF.
Well I grabed 2 Frozen birds out of the freezer, went stright outside and as I was walking to them said, here is2 more birds I want to make things right, when I got close enough I knocked Mr smart azz to the ground with one of the frozen birds, Iquickly turned to see if the other one was going to give me trouble when he smiled and said, I seen that comming!
So save the attitude for those days you might actually need it!

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Sliver - how's the grouse hunting this year? I used to live in Traverse City and hunt around there and the grouse used to be great. If you can legally sell them I would be interested in buying one or two for mounting.

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your fine, he probably is one of the people that thinks it would be cool to go hunting, and when the time comes he realizes that he does not want to kill or harm the animal he gets the pleasure of seeing the animal. especially at that close range to a predator