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RickV87 12-13-2007 12:11 PM

Best Fall Away Rest For 2" Blazer Vanes
 
I am trying to convert from the hostage arrow rest to a fall away or drop away style rest. I use 2" Blazer vanes and I am hoping someone can give me a little direction on what the best rest would be for my particular vanes.

TripleActionOutdoors 12-13-2007 12:14 PM

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If I tell you this is the best it is! Trophy Ridge drop aways they all work about the same (Perfect). Run about one hundred... All I shoot are 2" blazers...

killadoe 12-13-2007 12:22 PM

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You can pick up an Ultra Rest for about 50 dollars and they are the best...

GR8atta2d 12-13-2007 12:32 PM

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Depends what bow your putting it on!


GMMAT 12-13-2007 12:47 PM

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I have to orient the cock vane differently when switching between Carbon Force and a/c/c's (3-71's) due to clearance issues with my allegiance cables.

I'm switching to 4" vanes for 3D.....and 4 or 5" feathers for hunting, next year. The Blazers are durable enough.....but I'm not sure I'm getting the advantage they offer out of them at the distances I shoot.

mobow 12-13-2007 12:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I have to orient the cock vane differently when switching between Carbon Force and a/c/c's (3-71's) due to clearance issues with my allegiance cables.

I'm switching to 4" vanes for 3D.....and 4 or 5" feathers for hunting, next year. The Blazers are durable enough.....but I'm not sure I'm getting the advantage they offer out of them at the distances I shoot.
Ok, so......WHAT rest would you use?? :eek::D

GMMAT 12-13-2007 12:57 PM

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I'd still use the QAD I'm using now. No vane issues.....no matter which vanes I'm using (with the rest).

My point was....I had issues with the BLAZERS v. other equipment.

bigbulls 12-13-2007 01:03 PM

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If I tell you this is the best it is! Trophy Ridge drop aways they all work about the same (Perfect). Run about one hundred... All I shoot are 2" blazers...


I wouldn't give you a nickle for a drop zone, same for a MZE.

IMHO the best drop awayI have used and/ or testedis the Trophy taker Xtreme FC.I also like the Ripcord quite a bit. Both are built like a tank.







mobow 12-13-2007 01:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigbulls


If I tell you this is the best it is! Trophy Ridge drop aways they all work about the same (Perfect). Run about one hundred... All I shoot are 2" blazers...


I wouldn't give you a nickle for a drop zone, same for a MZE.

IMHO the best drop awayI have used and/ or testedis the Trophy taker Xtreme FC.I also like the Ripcord quite a bit. Both are built like a tank.






bigbulls, you're one of the guys that when you start talking about equipment, I listen. I'm curious about this one though. I've had a DZ for.....4 years now I think and I absolutely love it. Why do you not like it?

TeeJay 12-13-2007 01:15 PM

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Tough to beat a Shakey.

burniegoeasily 12-13-2007 01:36 PM

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Ive only used a Muzzy zero effects with blazers and it worked perfect. im sure a lot of other work just as well.

burniegoeasily 12-13-2007 01:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigbulls


If I tell you this is the best it is! Trophy Ridge drop aways they all work about the same (Perfect). Run about one hundred... All I shoot are 2" blazers...


I wouldn't give you a nickle for a drop zone, same for a MZE.

IMHO the best drop awayI have used and/ or testedis the Trophy taker Xtreme FC.I also like the Ripcord quite a bit. Both are built like a tank.






I have a zerro effects on one of my compound that has been on there since the day they first came out. Never had an issue with it. Its well over 6 years old. Ive installed hundreds of them, and never had one come back to be worked on. Easy to install and a brain dead monkey could tune one. I dont see why people bash them.

bigbulls 12-13-2007 01:44 PM

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I'm curious about this one though. I've had a DZ for.....4 years now I think and I absolutely love it. Why do you not like it?
They take tooooooo long to set up and tune just right. Waaaaaay too many parts. Waaaaaaay too big and bulky. Almost made entirely of plastic/ polymer. They don't work equally well on all bows made.

And from a retailers standpoint you must stock all 4 versions which takes up 4 times the amount of shelf space than any other rest that will work on almost all bows.

If a brain dead monkeycould tune one then I wouldn't have to work on them all the time. Most people that buy them give up and bring them back to me to set up and tune. [:@] It takes two or three times as long to set up a MZE than it does nearly any other drop away rest.

steelhead777 12-13-2007 01:46 PM

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i love my trophy taker! i am shooting 2in blazers also.:)

dukemichaels 12-13-2007 01:51 PM

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The whisker bisket of course..!

Uh-oh did I stutter...

Que' both Atlas and Jeff (aka GMMAT). Take it from here fellas..[8D]

Germ 12-13-2007 01:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

The whisker bisket of course..!

Uh-oh did I stutter...

Que' both Atlas and Jeff (aka GMMAT). Take it from here fellas..[8D]
From the Title
Best Fall Away Rest

WB makes a Fall away now[:-] Would that arrow look funny going end over end[8D]

dukemichaels 12-13-2007 01:58 PM

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You're right Germ.. my bad...:(

I was just funnin' with everyone. Trying to wake the place up!

I will now retreat to the solitude of lurking...

Carry on everyone.

Germ 12-13-2007 02:01 PM

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It was funny:D

This place has been pretty awake. Fran ran out of Prozac;)

GMMAT 12-13-2007 02:04 PM

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Whisker Biscuit's a great hunting rest, Duke. Long as you're hunting DEAF DEER!

BWAHahahahahaha

(I kid.....I KID!:D)

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-13-2007 02:05 PM

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I have a Trophy Taker Pronghorn on my Allegiance. I'm putting the Limb Driver on my General and another Pronghorn on the Marquis. I'm not decided on which to put on an 82nd. I'll decide that when I see how I like the Limb Driver.

And to use a quote from the boards LMAO. RIGHT!


If I tell you this is the best it is!

bloodcrick 12-13-2007 02:24 PM

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:(you guys hurt my feelings, i love my WB :([8D]

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

The whisker bisket of course..!

Uh-oh did I stutter...

Que' both Atlas and Jeff (aka GMMAT). Take it from here fellas..[8D]
From the Title
Best Fall Away Rest

WB makes a Fall away now[:-] Would that arrow look funny going end over end[8D]

mobow 12-13-2007 02:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: bloodcreek

:(you guys hurt my feelings, i love my WB :([8D]

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: dukemichaels

The whisker bisket of course..!

Uh-oh did I stutter...

Que' both Atlas and Jeff (aka GMMAT). Take it from here fellas..[8D]
From the Title
Best Fall Away Rest

WB makes a Fall away now[:-] Would that arrow look funny going end over end[8D]

I'm not sure how good an endorsement that really is though....:eek::D:D

Rhody Hunter 12-13-2007 02:33 PM

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I would go with the Q.A.D. ultra rest or a rip cord

HuntingBry 12-13-2007 02:49 PM

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Best hunting rest IMO is the QAD Ultra Rest. Full contain, and a drop away, easy to tune, quiet, holds your arrow until the shot. Just awesome. Oh, and I use 2" Blazers with it.

The WB is a great drop away rest. It drops away from my bow and into the garbage.;)

Cougar Mag 12-13-2007 05:17 PM

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I laugh when I read about whats the best this and that, especially when it comes to rests.

I've had good success with the QAD(although it developed internal parts issues), the Schaffer rest, and have used a MZE for the past two seasons using Blazer vanes with no problems.
My son is using a Trophy Taker with Blazers..shooting excellent.

All of the above were installed and tuned by me. I admit the MZE was a little tougher to tune, but its not slipped or changed a lick! Also, the Schaffer was the quickest/easiest to tune and is built like a bull!

goherd1111 12-13-2007 05:37 PM

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Limbdriver, Without a doubt.

lamb1647 12-13-2007 05:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: TripleActionOutdoors

If I tell you this is the best it is! Trophy Ridge drop aways they all work about the same (Perfect). Run about one hundred... All I shoot are 2" blazers...
I agree! That's what I have on my Hoyt Vectrix XL. Works like a champ with 2" Blazers.

Bill

RickV87 12-14-2007 06:53 AM

RE: Best Fall Away Rest For 2" Blazer Vanes
 
Thanks alot for the help guys. I would like to see the Trophy Ridge, Trophy Taker,QAD, andthe Ripcord in action. ButI think im also going to give the Spot-Hogg Whammy a try. I know its like a hybrid between a shoot through and a fall away but I hear alot of good about it. Hasanyone tried it yet?Either way I appreciate the help. Thanks alot guys.

Bowtech Tribute
Hostage Rest
Hunter Hogg It Sight
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wack 12-14-2007 08:05 AM

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My first drop away was a shakey hunter Trophy Taker. It was the noisiest thing on my bow. I then put Drop Zone on my bow and the teflon sleeves got wrinkled slightly and that led to failure very quikly. I contacted customer service and the sent me the wrong parts. Called them back and they then said I had to send it in to reto fit the parts because they didn't have what I needed. That took 2 weeks and 1 week later the new teflon sleeves developed another wrinkle! What a waist of time money and hunting days!
I posted on another hunting site and found out about a new drop away rest called the Expert II, by DMI. It's a small family business. They make a few different drop away rests that work great with 2" Blazer vanes, QS Speed Hunter vanes and even FOB's. My Expert II is quieter than the Shakey hunter and DZ rests, is much easier to set up and a lot more durrable and dependable. Even though I say it is more quiet, it isn't silent. I have yet to see a drop away that is but being a perfectionist, that is the only issue that I would try to improve on the Expert I or Expert II. The Expert I is cheaper and I've never heard anything bad about the Expert I either. The Expert II just has A little more adjustability than the Expert I. The customer service that I got from DMI was outstanding, unlike the customer service I got from Bear Archery with the Drop Zone rest.
Here is the link for DMI. http://www.dotymi.com/Archery_Home.html

DROCK 12-14-2007 08:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: goherd1111

Limbdriver, Without a doubt.
AMEN Brother!! Great Rest, simple to set up, no clearance issues.

HuntingBry 12-14-2007 08:42 AM

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Wack, you said some things in your post that have me a little confused. Here we go:


I then put Drop Zone on my bow and the teflon sleeves got wrinkled slightly and that led to failure very quikly.
What teflon sleeves? The Trophy Ridge Drop Zone has a single post that has a rubber sleeve, and after having had one and put 1000s of shots through it don't understand how it could wrinkle. Also, if it did wrinkle I don't know how that could cause a failure.


The customer service that I got from DMI was outstanding, unlike the customer service I got from Bear Archery with the Drop Zone rest.
Bear Archery doesn't own Trophy Ridge as far as I know (I may be wrong on that since companies change ownership so frequently). In my experience Trophy Ridge has provided excellent customer service and I know others have received the same great service.

Please don't think I'm implying that what you said didn't happen, but I'm a little confused on the information you gave. I'm happy you found something that works for you and that you are happy with.

bigbulls 12-14-2007 11:38 AM

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Bear Archery doesn't own Trophy Ridge as far as I know (I may be wrong on that since companies change ownership so frequently). In my experience Trophy Ridge has provided excellent customer service and I know others have received the same great service.
It's not Bear Archery that owns them but Escalade sports. Escalade Sports is the parent company for Bear, Jennings, Satellite, Carolina Archery Products, Trophy Ridge, Rocket broadheads.

RIStrutStopper 12-14-2007 12:19 PM

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I put a Trophy Ridge DZ on my 2003 bow and never had a reason to switch it, or my bow. Both still work very well for me.

wack 12-17-2007 08:44 AM

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What teflon sleeves? The Trophy Ridge Drop Zone has a single post that has a rubber sleeve, and after having had one and put 1000s of shots through it don't understand how it could wrinkle. Also, if it did wrinkle I don't know how that could cause a failure.
First, I bought the DZ because it was highly recommended by satisfied customers of Trophy Ridge. Unfortunately, they changed the rest and Trophy ridge changed owners. I think mine was called the Guide series. With A hush kit included.
I don't know how the older DZ's were made, but the New ones the arrow rest is made of brass and rides on 2 posts. (you can only see 1 post unless you take the housing apart) Between the arrow holder and the 2 posts are 2 teflon sleeves that act as a lubricant for the rest to slide on the posts. They are very thin and delicate. When one sleeves gets a wrinkle in it, it hangs up, causing the arrow rest to drop crooked. It kind of dropped in a whipping motion with the far side of the rest dropping slower than inside. When this happens it catches A vane, and that bends the brass holder. Not only did it bend the arrow holder it distorts the 2 holes in the brass that ride on the posts. Makes the holes oblong, creating more play or wiggle. This adds more dings and wrinkles in the teflon. eventually the brass arm wouldn't even drop into the housing. My new rest was set up by a bow tech that sold and set up a lot of the DZ rests, it was there recommendation, but isn't anymore. They loved the old DZ rests and hate the new ones. Lucky me, I was the first to have trouble with the new ones at this shop.
When I called the customer service number, it was A Bear Archery tech who answered the phone after I was on hold for 26 minutes. He told me that Trophy Ridge was bought by Bear Archery's parent company as stated above by bigbulls. They sent me 2 new posts, 2 teflon sleeves, 2 springs and a new brass arrow holder, ect. but the posts and teflons sleeves the sent were about 1/4" too long and took a week to get here! When I called back to say these parts were too long they said that's all the parts they had, and I'd have to send it in for them to retrofit the parts. My bow shop decided they could just replace the whole rest and wait for the warranty parts so I could get out hunting and shooting. The new one failed on the first day after about 50 shots, while at the bow shop with the tech by my side.
I then called DMI. It was the Friday night of Labor day(?) weekend. They rushed me a new DMI Expert II that reached my door the next day. The owner of DMI drove my rest 30 miles to A UPS drop off place and paid the extra postage to get it to me in less than 24 hours. If he didn't do that, I would have had to wait till the next Tuesday because of the holiday. That's good service, and beyond the call of duty in my book. I also didn't get anywhere with the DZ people when trying to get a refund after switching over to the DMI rest. The bow shop eventually gave me a $25 store credit for my damaged DZ and installed my DMI rest for me.


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