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Tikka 30-06 12-04-2007 06:06 PM

3D Help
 
Well guys, incase you didn't notice it is almost Christmas time!! I have decided that I want to put my Christmas money into getting a new bow. This bow is going to be a "dual purpose" 3D and hunting bow. I'm not gonna get into the whole 3D thing to big, just some local deals. My plan is to dedicate the bow totally to competition until a month or so before hunting season starts. Now, I have pretty much decided on the bow I want, so I dont need to hear any ads for your favorite company to make my choice harder:D. But, I would like to hear any little tips and tricks on arrows, bow setup, and all those goodies (for 3D). Thanks a ton.

Matt / PA 12-04-2007 06:16 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
To be honest if you "Arent getting into it too big" and just plan to shoot local shoots and THEN switch over before hunting season then don't bother with a completely different set up. Just use your hunting bow set up and transition right into hunting season....and focus all your energy on making good shots and learning yardage. Doing it the way you describe is more of a headache than anything.

There are 3 types of 3D shooting :
1. In it to win it
2. For fun
3. Practice for hunting

1. Demands a dedicated set up and some serious practice with stuff you wouldn't necessarily use hunting.........2 and 3 don't.

Take my advice from an "In it to win it" guy........if your IN your IN........if your out, your in 21st place. ;)

But if you must, I will send you a little 3D pin class tutorial I typed up for a guy last year. Its on a different computer so it will have to wait til' I can get it off to you tomorrow.

Matt/TN 12-04-2007 06:17 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
If you are just going to shoot 3D, I would worry much about having it setup for competition. Depending on what class you want to shoot in. Look up some of GMMAT's threads about the subject and look for Rick James's replies. As for the bow, Get a good mid length axle to axle. 36" is suiting me just fine for target and hunting.nWhat bow are you leaning towards?

Matt/TN 12-04-2007 06:19 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
Matt we both must have been typing at the same time.

Tikka 30-06 12-04-2007 06:21 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
I hate to let out my secret but.......either a General or a Guardian. I was leaning towards an Airborne at first simply for the speeds but I want the most forgiving and "easiest" bow to shoot (we all know none are easy). And from what I've been reading, the Guardian or General what be more along those lines.

Also, even though all of my shoots would be done at a smaller local shop and range would they use the same classes as the bigtime shoots? Or would they just kind of make up their owns divisions.

Matt/TN 12-04-2007 08:28 PM

RE: 3D Help
 

ORIGINAL: Tikka 30-06

I hate to let out my secret but.......either a General or a Guardian. I was leaning towards an Airborne at first simply for the speeds but I want the most forgiving and "easiest" bow to shoot (we all know none are easy). And from what I've been reading, the Guardian or General what be more along those lines.

Also, even though all of my shoots would be done at a smaller local shop and range would they use the same classes as the bigtime shoots? Or would they just kind of make up their owns divisions.
As far as the classes go. Most places are PRETTY close to the big time stuff.

And Airborne 101 might not be bad, arent they 36" ata, and a decent BH?

Tikka 30-06 12-04-2007 08:34 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
See I knew you guys would make the decision harder! Lol but I'm just gonna end up going to shoot them both and hopefully taking home the one I like more. The speed of the Airbornes is really attractive to me. When I'm down at the shop I'll have to check and see how they run their tournaments. Do leagues run in different "classes" to or do they just give you a handicap?

Matt/TN 12-04-2007 08:40 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
Most will have different classes. Such as beginner, etc. Yeah the best thing to do is go and shoot all the ones you are considering.

TFOX 12-04-2007 08:46 PM

RE: 3D Help
 

ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

To be honest if you "Arent getting into it too big" and just plan to shoot local shoots and THEN switch over before hunting season then don't bother with a completely different set up. Just use your hunting bow set up and transition right into hunting season....and focus all your energy on making good shots and learning yardage. Doing it the way you describe is more of a headache than anything.

There are 3 types of 3D shooting :
1. In it to win it
2. For fun
3. Practice for hunting

1. Demands a dedicated set up and some serious practice with stuff you wouldn't necessarily use hunting.........2 and 3 don't.

Take my advice from an "In it to win it" guy........if your IN your IN........if your out, your in 21st place. ;)

But if you must, I will send you a little 3D pin class tutorial I typed up for a guy last year. Its on a different computer so it will have to wait til' I can get it off to you tomorrow.

I agree with Matt on this completely.

I have been an in it to win guy.

This past year I went to 1 shoot with my hunting rig and the only difference I had was the release.Finished 3rd and it was the first shoot in 2 years.

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-04-2007 08:55 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
Just remember, it's not the bow, it's the shooter. I won many 3D events with my exact hunting setup. The only difference was the release.

Todays bows have speed, especially if your looking up a new Bowtech. Set the Bowtech up as your hunting setup, go out and shoot 3D with it. You'll do fine.

That being said, I totally agree with Matt / PA on this one too. Except his number one, that answer depends on which class you shoot in. ;)

TFOX 12-04-2007 09:04 PM

RE: 3D Help
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

Just remember, it's not the bow, it's the shooter. I won many 3D events with my exact hunting setup. The only difference was the release.

Todays bows have speed, especially if your looking up a new Bowtech. Set the Bowtech up as your hunting setup, go out and shoot 3D with it. You'll do fine.

That being said, I totally agree with Matt / PA on this one too. Except his number one, that answer depends on which class you shoot in. ;)

Your response got me thinking of the best I ever shot in a 3-d tourney.I LOVE my Carter thumb release but my best ever shoot was with my Tru Ball Short and Sweet II.

I absolutely smoked an open class warmup for Bedford at a local shoot(I don't think anyone was within 10 points of me)and let me tell you,it was tough but I was just in the zone and using full slide bar,long stabilizer and all but I had my cheap $50.00 release smoking.

That goes back to the shooter remark,not the equipment,although that helps too.;)

Matt/TN 12-04-2007 09:08 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
This year, I am definately pumped to shoot some leagues and tournaments. In the past I've been a just for fun/hunting practice guy. Now, I'm a pure, in it to win it. I think all my time that's not dedicated to work and school is being spent shooting and tinkering with my bow.


I can't wait. Only a couple more weeks for leagues here.

TFOX 12-04-2007 09:13 PM

RE: 3D Help
 
I will add,if you plan on shooting hunter class,shoot you hunting bow as is,all equipment.You could step back to the mbr class and just have fun.


If you want to step back for a little more of a challenge and competition,go to the mbr class and shoot finer pins with 2nd and 3rd axis adjustment.Spring steel rest,long stabilizer and a quality BT or thumbstyle release.Lighter arrows with good Foc.

This require quite a bit of a changeover for hunting season though but if you are looking for the competition,that is 1 way to go.


Stay away from the open class with a bow that is going to be changed back and forth.I would reccomend a specific bow and all for that.





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