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chaseNsplittoes 11-27-2007 08:34 PM

Bowtech Airbornes
 
Anybody shot either of these two bows? How are they?Speed? Handshock? Quietness? I was considering a Guardian but havn't had an opportunity to shoot these yet. I was wondering how they compare.

GMMAT 11-27-2007 08:39 PM

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I have shot the Guardian. I haven't shot the Airborne yet. I'll get my chance, soon enough.

I ordered the Guardian AND the 82nd, TODAY!:D

chaseNsplittoes 11-27-2007 08:41 PM

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GMMAT, where do you get your bowtechs from?

Rick James 11-27-2007 08:52 PM

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I gotta say I'm looking forward to getting my hands on an 82nd. I'm not convinced that I want one quite yet but VERY anxious to play with one for a bit.

GMMAT 11-27-2007 08:53 PM

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I have always ordered them through my bowshop.

chaseNsplittoes 11-27-2007 09:30 PM

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GMMAT and others, please let me know what you think about these once you get them. You will probably get your hands on them before I get a chance to shoot one.

davidmil 11-27-2007 09:45 PM

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Come on GMMAT... tell the rest of the story. You know what I mean about friends of friends with special discounts... Last year you were against them... this year you're pushing them.. And why might that be.[8D] I bought one before it was popular.:D

chaseNsplittoes 11-27-2007 09:59 PM

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Does he mean your pushing them because you want them to sell. Gosh, I don't even know whoor what tobelieve and here. I know that a salesman has to sell, that's how he makes a living.I just want to buy a new GREAT bow and want honest opinions about them. I hatewhen someone tries to "sell" me on something.

GMMAT 11-28-2007 03:00 AM

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Chase. I don't care what you spend your money on. I have one Bowtech bow. I bought it from my local bowshop owner last December. The deal he gave me on the bow is between he and I.....but it's sweet;). I have friends who are on the corporate staff for Bowtech, yes. But to be honest.....they were friends before I knew that.....and I've never gotten a dime's worth of discount from Bowtech due to these friendships.

You get whichever bow you want to....and don't base it on what anyone else says. That's advice I'd give anyone.

Good luck with your choice.

jpov22 11-28-2007 04:47 AM

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I don't think it really matters. Bowtech makes a high quality bow. I bought a Pro38a couple years ago and I loved it then as Ilove my Allegiance now.

I much prefer the 101st due to the larger brace height, but a lot of folksare into the speed thing and I'm not sure why.

PABowhntr 11-28-2007 06:54 AM

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I much prefer the 101st due to the larger brace height, but......
I tend to as well but I am left wondering how much of an effect the new Shortstop String Suppressor is going to have in terms of forgiveness and arm slapwith a short brace height bow. If it somewhat negates the effect of a short brace height then the 82nd Airborne may be just as wise of an option.

Rick James 11-28-2007 06:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: jpov22

I much prefer the 101st due to the larger brace height, but a lot of folksare into the speed thing and I'm not sure why.
Because the difference in brace height isn't coming from riser geometry changes. They are on the same riser, and should have VERY similar "forgiveness" characteristics because of this. If the 82nd was a shorter brace because of more reflex in the riser then you would likely see me wanting a 101st. With that said, more speed with the same shooting characteristics are always a plus in my book.

MichaelHunsucker 11-28-2007 08:40 AM

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I havent shot them yet, but i have a guardian and have shot the new General. Both sweet bows.

I couldnt believe how quiet and hand shock free the guardian was when i got it, then i shot the General which was quieter and had less hand shock...

Im looking forward to shooting the airborne bows

YooperMike 11-28-2007 08:51 AM

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I'm really looking forward to shooting the 101 as well. Love my Commander, going to keep it I think and set it up for targets and then use the 101 for hunting.

extreme1 11-28-2007 09:19 AM

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With the new design change Bowtech took last year on the Guardian I am real surprised they only came out with one bow this year on the Guardian design.The General is an awesome looking bow,but less speed then the Guardian.I thought they would have built in more speed.
Another thing that boggles me is they are going to a longer A to A this year--36" being average on their bows,shoot,not a few years ago everyone was asking for a short A to A bow--31--33" with a generous brace height-7" plus,now they are wanting 36" with 6" brace heights,when is anyone really going to be happy and make up their mind on what they really want:D
Maybe I will order the 101,82nd and the Guardian--no discounts here boys,just gotta get it past the wife;)

chaseNsplittoes 11-28-2007 09:39 AM

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Extreme, your right. It's funny. People were all about not having a short brace height because thet wanted forgivness and something easier to shoot. Am I wrong? And now 6 inch brace height again. The same goes with single cams IMO. Everyone was going to a single cam bow. It was all the hype, "solocam". And now it's back to dual cam type bows. Or are these cams today different from old dual cams, or the same concept. I honestly don't know exactly.

chaseNsplittoes 11-28-2007 01:28 PM

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Ok, so there has been over 200 hits on this thread and nobody out there has actually shot either of the twobows. Nice.Are they not out yet?

goherd1111 11-28-2007 01:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: chaseNsplittoes

Ok, so there has been over 200 hits on this thread and nobody out there has actually shot either of the twobows. Nice.Are they not out yet?
I don't think they are at the shops yet. Bowtech guys correct me if i'm wrong.

Greg / MO 11-28-2007 04:24 PM

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They are starting to show up in a few shops now... The one I was in today hadn't received theirs yet.

MeanV2 11-28-2007 05:50 PM

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One shop in my area got a 101 in yesterday. I haven't had time to go shoot it (crazy time of the year for me) but all reports are good.Shop ownertold me it was 70#29" 326 fps with a legal arrow. He said it had the smooth mods on it;)I can't verify that since I wasn't actually there:D

Dan

loogout1 11-28-2007 06:09 PM

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Whats the subtraction # for draw length, I think somewhere around 10fps per inch right? Reason being I am a 27". Just trying to get a round about fps for the 101 at 70#.

MeanV2 11-28-2007 06:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: loogout1

Whats the subtraction # for draw length, I think somewhere around 10fps per inch right? Reason being I am a 27". Just trying to get a round about fps for the 101 at 70#.
Minus 1" would be approx. minus 10 fps, yes. The Airborne 101 only goes down to 27.5" draw though. On the other hand the Airborne 82 goes down to 26.5" draw;)

Mike from Texas 11-28-2007 08:18 PM

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Crackers over on Archery Talk has a 101 doing 332fps @ 29/70.

loogout1 11-28-2007 08:30 PM

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I hate being draw length challenged!

chaseNsplittoes 11-28-2007 08:35 PM

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Don't be too critical, but I don't know a lot of the technical stuff anymore. I used to read up on it quite a bit but literally all my reading is devoted to school work now. Anyway, so the longer your draw length is, the faster your bow shoots?

Greg / MO 11-28-2007 08:39 PM

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You'll typically achieve another 10 fps for every inch of draw length you've got, which adds to the duration of the "power stroke."

loogout1 11-28-2007 08:45 PM

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So size does matter after all. I knew it!!

chaseNsplittoes 11-28-2007 08:55 PM

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By the way Greg / MO, i tried to e-mail you on here. Did you get that?


Crackers 11-28-2007 09:37 PM

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101st Airborne 29" draw 70 lbs and after getting the draw length correct (was a tad short on the AT review) 333 fps IBO. After AT comes back up I will post my review between the Dream Season 7 and the 101st ( don't feel like typing it all again)



MO_Bowhnter 11-28-2007 10:14 PM

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That's one bad looking mamba jamba.

chaseNsplittoes 11-28-2007 10:30 PM

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Yeah. Those airbornes are pretty sweet looking bows. So are they really just an upgrade from the allegiance? They look kinda similar, IMO.

MO_Bowhnter 11-28-2007 10:42 PM

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They make look slightly similar but they are a whole lot different. Different cams, longer axle to axle, faster, roller guard, STS thingy, new limb pockets...I can't wait to shoot one eve though I doubt I'll have the funds to drop on one.

chaseNsplittoes 11-28-2007 10:54 PM

RE: Bowtech Airbornes
 
Is that anSTS on that bow also,in the pic from page 3? It already has a string suppressor on it.

I'm curious to see what Muzzycomes up with to compensate for the roller guard. I havn't really decided on what rest to go with when I get one. It will either be a ZE or a limbdriver. I had an older muzzy before they came out with the model for paralell limbs. I have heard a lot of good things about the limbdriver.

Crackers 11-29-2007 12:33 AM

RE: Bowtech Airbornes
 

ORIGINAL: chaseNsplittoes

Is that anSTS on that bow also,in the pic from page 3? It already has a string suppressor on it.

I'm curious to see what Muzzycomes up with to compensate for the roller guard. I havn't really decided on what rest to go with when I get one. It will either be a ZE or a limbdriver. I had an older muzzy before they came out with the model for paralell limbs. I have heard a lot of good things about the limbdriver.
That's not a STS on the bottom it's what holds the bow to the vice. Go with the Limb Driver they are much....much easier to set up

MeanV2 11-29-2007 05:02 AM

RE: Bowtech Airbornes
 

ORIGINAL: Crackers


ORIGINAL: chaseNsplittoes

Is that anSTS on that bow also,in the pic from page 3? It already has a string suppressor on it.

I'm curious to see what Muzzycomes up with to compensate for the roller guard. I havn't really decided on what rest to go with when I get one. It will either be a ZE or a limbdriver. I had an older muzzy before they came out with the model for paralell limbs. I have heard a lot of good things about the limbdriver.
That's not a STS on the bottom it's what holds the bow to the vice. Go with the Limb Driver they are much....much easier to set up
I Agree Limb Drivers are the Cat's Meow of Dropaway rest;)

How's it going Mike?:D

Dan

Mike from Texas 11-29-2007 09:40 PM

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I can't tell any one how we did it but this bow shot a 306gr arrow at 61lbs 345fps today. The guys in the shop were freaking out and I'm sure they will post something about it but they won't tell either

Crackers just posted this over on AT. [:-][:-][:-][:-]

mdewitt71 11-30-2007 02:40 AM

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yea, I am waiting to hear what they did.........


I can't wait for the 82nd Airbornes to get out the door and come my way.

BowTech_Shooter 11-30-2007 05:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: mdewitt71

yea, I am waiting to hear what they did.........


I can't wait for the 82nd Airbornes to get out the door and come my way.

Hey Mike, glad to see you posting here too...;):D


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