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Jimimac 11-26-2007 05:23 AM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 
HonestlyJeff, if you are taking this stuff as aslap, IMO you are taking this thing way too seriously.

GMMAT 11-26-2007 05:27 AM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 
Jimmi:

Maybe so. But for a test.....go to the gun hunting forum and post how easy it is to kill deer with a gun vs. a bow. Let me know how that goes (I'm just kidding....but I think you get the point);)

If it were said in another forum (deer hunting), I'd never have responded the first time.

NEW61375 11-26-2007 06:45 AM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

You're right, NY. I can't. But when you post a thread titled "Bow Kills are Easier" in a bowhunting forum......what did you really expect? You're gonna get the guys who gun hunt agreeing with you....a portion of the bowhunting community to pass it off......and a portion that takes it as a mild slap in the face as to how they pursue the whitetail deer.

Call it what it is....."Is hunting unpressured whitetails easier than pressured whitetails"....and I'l give you that, every time.....with ANY weapon. Given.
Iunderstand what you are saying about the thread title, but 9 pages later I think most realize the point he was trying to make despite the thread title being slightly "oversimplified". I don't believe it was intended as a "mild slap in the face", it seems more like an obsevation/opinion and I also don't think people are agreeing justbecause they are gun hunters too. I fall into the group that agrees (not with the topic as the thread title states it) but as a topic that has many different angles I can say that I feelbow hunting is as hard or as easy as the hunter makes it and if you use your states bow seasons to your advantage then killing deer, while it may not be "easy", it certainly is not rocket science.

I guess my whole point is that the topic hasdeveloped into a discussion beyond the "restraints" of the thread title and if we can get past the title there are some good points being made about the seasons/weapons.

GMMAT 11-26-2007 06:47 AM

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You're correct, NEW.....and I apologize if I offended anyone. That was not my intention.

davidmil 11-26-2007 01:53 PM

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NY, GMMAT and I agreed until he apologized. I'd never do that. [8D][8D][8D] And yes it's cute, we're dating.

GMMAT 11-26-2007 01:59 PM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 
I'm the "guy", though. Just for clarification.

Rick James 11-26-2007 02:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I'm the "guy", though. Just for clarification.


I have nothing more to add here.........lol

NY Bowhunter 11-26-2007 02:16 PM

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I have nothing more to add here.........lol
I agree. That about did it for me with this thread. Good luck with that.[:-][:o]


burniegoeasily 11-26-2007 02:18 PM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 
What about us who kill our deer during rifle season with our bows? I tagged one of my bucks and one of my does during rifle season this year. I always tag my last deer during rifle season. They are much more jumpy, you just got to be more stealthy.

I guess we could turn this debate into, is it easier to date your cousin because of the lack of pressure, or go out and find a nonrelative.:D

GMMAT 11-26-2007 02:24 PM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 
I took this buck on the next to last weekend of the season, last year, Burnie.....some 3 weeks into rifle season. I have 5 yahoos that don't know the meaning of "property lines"....hunting around me (had one of them come into my set, Thaksgiving Day, and take a DUMP 35 yds from my stand!:D[:@]

Some would say my deer aren't pressured, though....so it don't count;)(I kid,....I kid!)



NEW61375 11-26-2007 02:30 PM

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Nice buck, is that adifferent buck from last years contest or just a different view of that deer?

GMMAT 11-26-2007 02:35 PM

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It wasn't my contest buck. My contest buck was a 7 pointer (my first buck). I took this one later in the year.

burniegoeasily 11-26-2007 02:36 PM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I took this buck on the next to last weekend of the season, last year, Burnie.....some 3 weeks into rifle season. I have 5 yahoos that don't know the meaning of "property lines"....hunting around me (had one of them come into my set, Thaksgiving Day, and take a DUMP 35 yds from my stand!:D[:@]

Some would say my deer aren't pressured, though....so it don't count;)(I kid,....I kid!)



That just sucks. I can relate. My favorite spot to hunt is right next to the fence line between my land and one of my neighbors. One day I go out and find someone walking around on my property.When I confronted him,he told me he wascalling the cops and said I was trespassing. I pulled out the cell phone and said, "they have already been called." You should have seen the look on his face as he ran and jumped the fence. Little did he know, the GW was setting on the tail gate of his truck waiting for him. and yes, I did press charges. I get so sick of idiots like that, who screw up your hunting.

Besides, hunting pressured deer makes you a better hunter. ;)

NEW61375 11-26-2007 02:37 PM

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I thought it was different, I never remembered seeing that one. But my memory is not quite what it should be.

Germ 11-26-2007 02:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

It wasn't my contest buck. My contest buck was a 7 pointer (my first buck). I took this one later in the year.
Yes being on Jeff's team now for two years now I have notice a pattern.

He shoots a little one, than a big one[8D]

BigJ71 11-26-2007 02:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: atlasman

Lots of people confusing "gun" with rifle I think. Pistols, muzzleloaders, shotguns of all kinds etc.

Like saying "bow" only means compounds........I bet the traditional guys would have something to say about that.
Not to confuse this thread more than it already is, but I agree with the statement above. I've touched on this more than once here. Seems likepeopleautomatically think 50 yard shot, broadside in an open fieldwith a modern slug gun or 300 Winchester Magsecurely nestled in a shooting rest, when they read or think about "gun hunting".:eek:

"I" would rather take a 30 yard shot with my compound bow than a 300 yard shot with a rifle....it's EASIER with the bow.

"I" would rather take a 40 yard shot with my compound bow than a 40 yard shot with my 4 5/8 in barrel open sighted pistol...it's EASIER with the bow.

I can say this because I have hunted withthose types of weapons at all different distances and I know just how hard it can be to get a good clean kill shot with those different weapons andvariables to deal with.

This is why I've always said there is a lot of elitist in the bow hunting community...They think "their way" of hunting is the toughest therefore by default they are the best hunters....not true.......not even close.

Carry on......

GMMAT 11-26-2007 02:42 PM

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Yes being on Jeff's team now for two years now I have notice a pattern.

He shoots a little one, than a big one[8D]
I was hoping no one would notice.....but you've patterned me pretty well.:eek::D

No regrets on any deer I've ever taken, though. ;) I hope to take a couple more out of the woods I hunt........although it's gun season. Lisa called me this morning and said it sounded like the gunfight at the OK Corrall behind the house, this morning. Just because I hunt private land.....that don't make it "private";).

GMMAT 11-26-2007 02:44 PM

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Hey John....I didn't start a thread saying "Bowhunting is Harder"!

Sorry....I'll go back in the cave.....[&:]

BigJ71 11-26-2007 02:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Hey John....I didn't start a thread saying "Bowhunting is Harder"!

Sorry....I'll go back in the cave.....[&:]
Never said you did....my post wasn't even in reply to any of your posts.

In fact, I see where your coming from. Most of the time the gun will be an easier kill, I was just waking some folks up about the misconceptions people have about "gun hunting".

But mostly I was just adding fuel to the fire.:)

GMMAT 11-26-2007 02:56 PM

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You know....a man would be hard-pressed to fire off a 150yd shot in the woods I hunt. I'm no rifle hunter.....but doing that (If off-hand" is the term....I just learned what that meant, recently;)) would be a pretty neat feat, I suppose.

I have absolutely nothing against gun hunting....and I've said that MANY times. There "might" come a day when I take up a ML and hit the woods with it. Who knows. I have friends that invite me to their leases.....and I bowhunt, now (did, last year). I might try it with the ML OR rifle, one year. But, for now.....it holds no interest for me.

I like stirring it up with you guys.;) I respect your passion, though.

BigJ71 11-26-2007 03:29 PM

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Hey Jeff,

I really don't have a dog in this race, It just doesn't sit well when I read post after post about how "superior" bow hunting is and how difficult it is and yadda yadda yadda.

The kicker is, most of thefolks typing orsaying this, (I get this all the time in the pro shops I visit.) have never even tried gun hunting or their only experience with it is their dad's 12ga andthe 50 yard open field they hunt over. Another thing I notice is a lot of them are very young.

I just listen to them and smile......it's just not worth it. If people need to think what they are doing is the toughest or most challenging in order to somehow boost their self esteem or give them self worth then far be it from me to destroy such a fragileinner-system of existence.

Bursting their bubbles is not going to make me feel any better and will only further submerse the uninformed into their "think tank" to a depth they may never resurface from.

YooperMike 11-26-2007 03:42 PM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 
I haven't read all the pages, so forgive me if I'm preaching to the choir. But, where I hunt in IL, we had been having encounters with 4 real good deer, one scored 177 3/8. The reason I know what it scored is because it was shot at 7:10 opening morning of gun season. All four were shot by 10 a.m. on opening morning. The three of us had all seen these deer throughout bow season, but never were able to close the deal. The guys who shot all 4 bucks don't bowhunt. All were shot at exted ranges (100 yards was the closest). So, I don't know if easier is the right term, but gun hunting definitely tips the odds in the hunters favor in farm country where you see the bucks alot, but out of range.

burniegoeasily 11-26-2007 04:05 PM

RE: Bow Kills Are Easier....
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ71

Hey Jeff,

I really don't have a dog in this race, It just doesn't sit well when I read post after post about how "superior" bow hunting is and how difficult it is and yadda yadda yadda.

The kicker is, most of thefolks typing orsaying this, (I get this all the time in the pro shops I visit.) have never even tried gun hunting or their only experience with it is their dad's 12ga andthe 50 yard open field they hunt over. Another thing I notice is a lot of them are very young.

I just listen to them and smile......it's just not worth it. If people need to think what they are doing is the toughest or most challenging in order to somehow boost their self esteem or give them self worth then far be it from me to destroy such a fragileinner-system of existence.

Bursting their bubbles is not going to make me feel any better and will only further submerse the uninformed into their "think tank" to a depth they may never resurface from.
I feel the same way. I will never talk down on anyone who does it legal. Because I like my trad bows, doesnt make me any better than a compound bow user. Heck, I love my compounds. I have not rifle hunted in many years, but i love it as well.

To be honest, there are many Archery forums i will not even visit anymore because of this attitude. Archery talk comes to mind. Have not been there in years and dont ever plan on going back. I mean, those people over there place themselves two steps above God. Or atleast in there own minds.

GMMAT 11-26-2007 04:46 PM

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But ya gotta admit John....when you read the thread title......:D


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