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Antler restriction
How many of you would favor it and what would be your guidelines on the restriction's?
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RE: Antler restriction
I am from PA and love the antler restrictions here. My part of the state is atleast three points on a side and the western parrt of the state is atleast 4 points to a side. We have seen a great improvement in antler quality. The only problem with our antler restriction is if you have an old deer a deer with bad genetics there is no way to cull it.
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I would like to see them try doing a 4 pt. restriction on one side of the antlerevery other year for about 5 years for the gun season and see if the results show any improvement on the size of bucks taken with bow and gun here in Minnesota. The whole state wouldn't have to try it but a few different zones could give it a try. The reason i am asking this is Minnesota use to be in the top 5 in taking booners and pope ang young bucks, its gone down hill alot the last ten years at least where i hunt. I'm kinda curious as to what everyone else thinks.
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ORIGINAL: White-tail-deer I am from PA and love the antler restrictions here. My part of the state is atleast three points on a side and the western parrt of the state is atleast 4 points to a side. We have seen a great improvement in antler quality. The only problem with our antler restriction is if you have an old deer a deer with bad genetics there is no way to cull it. |
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I'm from Pa also andI like the antler restrictions that we have. We are getting older bucks in the herd. We used to kill all the spikes and yearlings. They never got a chance to mature.
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I think some places in Minnesota really need it especially where I hunt. There are a lot of spikers taken so i think that we should just protect the spikes and forkhorns.
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No restrictions here, and I prefer it that way. Its not about the health of the herd, its about money. If they were to be implemented here, no way around it, and I got to pick the regs, it would be on public land only.
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ORIGINAL: JoshKeller No restrictions here, and I prefer it that way. Its not about the health of the herd, its about money. If they were to be implemented here, no way around it, and I got to pick the regs, it would be on public land only. |
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ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR I'm from Pa also andI like the antler restrictions that we have. We are getting older bucks in the herd. We used to kill all the spikes and yearlings. They never got a chance to mature. |
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Here in SC we need to do away with Dog drives first before we can worry about antler restriction. I am all for the restriction but bigger fish to fry first.
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They are thinking of going to 4 point here.I voted no,for the simple fact I have never found a good way to cook them.
Truth where I've seen them have restrictions I've seen smaller Bucks just left lay and gone to waste. big rockpile |
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ORIGINAL: big rockpile They are thinking of going to 4 point here.I voted no,for the simple fact I have never found a good way to cook them. Truth where I've seen them have restrictions I've seen smaller Bucks just left lay and gone to waste. big rockpile |
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I am in favor of the restriction myself, however we need to make sure our land can support it. If I remember correctly a deer eatssomething likea ton of food. There needs to be enough habitat and nutrition to support the antler growth in conjuction witht the restriction. I am in no way claiming to be a biologist or expert but it must be a consideration we can,t forget. We hunt to maintain a balanced and health herd. Everyone wants a wall hanger myself included. I am in favor of what ever supports a lifetime of hunting oppurtunity for generations to come.
BEING FROM PA MYSELF I AM A SUPPORTER OF OPENING SUNDAY HUNTING :eek: |
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ORIGINAL: Mr October I am in favor of the restriction myself, however we need to make sure our land can support it. If I remember correctly a deer eatssomething likea ton of food. There needs to be enough habitat and nutrition to support the antler growth in conjuction witht the restriction. I am in no way claiming to be a biologist or expert but it must be a consideration we can,t forget. We hunt to maintain a balanced and health herd. Everyone wants a wall hanger myself included. I am in favor of what ever supports a lifetime of hunting oppurtunity for generations to come. BEING FROM PA MYSELF I AM A SUPPORTER OF OPENING SUNDAY HUNTING :eek: |
RE: Antler restriction
Happy to have them here in PA, wish my area was 4 points instead of three.
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Well i live and hunt in MN and would like to see some type of change to increase the numbers of mature bucks in our herd.
Seemslike mosthunters in this state want to kill anything that has bone coming out of it's head so maybe antler restrictions would be a benefit. However, I would rather see the rifle season movedback a few weeks as has been done in Iowa, Wis, Kansas, Ill, etc. Fewer bucks would be taken if the rifle season were moved out of the seeking phase of the rut but hunters would still be able to shoot whatever sized bucks that they want. I fear thatARmay simply be a short term bandaid as it would onlyprotect the yearling bucks with inferior genetics which would have some long term consequences to the quality of the bucks in MN But I do agree that AR woud be a improvement over what Minnesota is doing currently |
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I dont get it....i can shoot a huge bodied 8 point(3-5year) with an undersized rack...and shoot a small bodied8-10point(nicer rack 2-3 year)and people will say the10 point is the better Trophy.
they are all trophy's if you ask me....even the does. an antler restriction is the dumbest idea i ever heard of....some Bonehead politician who thinks hes a huntermust have came up with that one. i agree there is no point in shooting a spike or a fork for most hunters....But what about the guy whos trying to feed his family. then what after all this Management and everything...and big racked bucks are running everywhere...then whats so special about a big racked buck if everyones shooting one... i havent shot any huge racked bucks ...but so what that doesnt mean im not proud of every deer that ive shot...if i get a huge rack im just gonna eat him the same as a small racked deer. Im a fisherman first and its funny when i catch a5-6 pound bass in the Mississippi river and some Bonehead tells me that thats little because he caught him a12 pounder in Texas....when the truth is that6 pound bass in the Mississippi is like catching an12 pounder down in Texas. |
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ORIGINAL: Alpha Capo I dont get it....i can shoot a huge bodied 8 point(3-5year) with an undersized rack...and shoot a small bodied8-10point(nicer rack 2-3 year)and people will say the10 point is the better Trophy. they are all trophy's if you ask me....even the does. an antler restriction is the dumbest idea i ever heard of....some Bonehead politician who thinks hes a huntermust have came up with that one. i agree there is no point in shooting a spike or a fork for most hunters....But what about the guy whos trying to feed his family. then what after all this Management and everything...and big racked bucks are running everywhere...then whats so special about a big racked buck if everyones shooting one... i havent shot any huge racked bucks ...but so what that doesnt mean im not proud of every deer that ive shot...if i get a huge rack im just gonna eat him the same as a small racked deer. Im a fisherman first and its funny when i catch a5-6 pound bass in the Mississippi river and some Bonehead tells me that thats little because he caught him a12 pounder in Texas....when the truth is that6 pound bass in the Mississippi is like catching an12 pounder down in Texas. |
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So your measure of Quality is nice antlers? some Bucks just dont have it in them.
not every guy can play linebacker in the NFL and most bucks dont have it in them to ever make it into the record books....no offence to you guys i just dont like the idea. for alot of reasons |
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My measure of quality is spending time in the woods enjoying what I love! If I can get a nice buck, thats a plus! If not, oh well! I'm still doing what I love to do and thats bow hunting! The thing is our buck herd here in Minnesota has gotten terrible from what it use to be, it would be nice to get it back!
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Have a meeting with hunters in your area.... if you all agree.... then dont shoot any spikes forks or baskets. it doesnt need to be a law tho. for the most Part id say 90% of Bow huntersgo out of their waynot to shoot Spikes and forks, time is on our side and chances are that we see somthin bigger by the time season ends...the more presure deer get the more they change their patterns...Bowhunting has boomed in the last 10 years...big bucks are moving before daylight alot of times.... i dont know for sure... but i do know if you want a big buck that more times than not most guys have to work their asses of for them.
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I would have no problem with AR's but as far as a meeting with other hunters everyone would agree and then still shoot a spike. Maybe on a nice chunck of private but never on public.
I get the sense that more and more guys practice QDM to some degree W/O a law. AR's are also great for guys who see alot of sublegal bucks but there are alot of guys out there that don't see a dozen deer of either sex a season never mind have the opportunity to be selective. Treestands grow lie fruit on the trees around here which makes it pretty tough. |
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I am in favor of ARs, but a few guys have brought up some good points about old bucks that may only have 3 to a side on a 4 toa side AR area. There should also be a stipulation that if a buck has a x points to a side or a 16" spread or greater it can be harvested.It is an imperfect system, but I like it.
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Alghough I'm a proponent, I doubt that may many states where the population is high will ever adopt the practice. I also don't agree with it in regard to youth hunters.
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i wish georgia had them for your first buck of the season and not just the second.
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