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stickerpt 01-22-2003 09:51 AM

Double lung shot
 
We know this is the shot we all try for. I have read
several posts saying the hunter got the double lung
shot and the animal still took an hour to die. Is
this possible? How in the world can an animall last
an hour without being able to breathe? Even the great
Chuck Adams says he double lunged a bison and when
he went to track it was still alive and charged him.

GForce 01-22-2003 10:15 AM

RE: Double lung shot
 
I think it's partly the adrenaline.

I hunted with a buddy in Alabama who put a Bear Razorhead through a perfect typical 12's heart. The buck went for just under 300 yards, having crossed a creek we had to use a canoe to get to the area we hunted. While we were trailing him, he had went down once only about 40 yards where he finally piled-up. The broadhead had sliced a good 1.5" off the tip end of the heart.

Going that far after a heart-shot, or living so long after a double-lung'er. Must be a strong desire to live!?





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Tazman 01-22-2003 11:42 AM

RE: Double lung shot
 
stickerpt I am not going to say it is impossible for a double lunged deer to live an hour, but it is highly unlikely. Now what GForce said is very true, the distance a deer can travel in a short amount of time with its heart blown and its lungs wasted is hard to fathom, but adreneline does some amazing things. For the life of me though I can not envision how a deer double lunged could live an hour unless one lung was just nicked. Once you have truely double lunged a deer the lungs collapse, they suffocate quickly, to say they can go for an hour without oxygen I don't buy.

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ArcticBowMan 01-22-2003 12:47 PM

RE: Double lung shot
 
I double lunged a moose this year and after 5 minutes, put the sneak on him again and put another arrow into him at 10 yards. That was a double lung and heart shot, and he died seconds later.

He quickly ran 40 yards after the shot, then laid down. He got up about 10 seconds later, walked in a backwards 360 and laid down again in the same spot. I saw the arrow hit, and watched as he ran off with blood pumping out of both sides of him, so I knew it was a fatal hit. I didn't want to push him, so I didn't launch a long shot and didn't stalk him right away to get another arrow in him. Frankly, I didn't expect him to last that long!
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Charlie P 01-22-2003 01:15 PM

RE: Double lung shot
 
I'm going way out on a limb here,lol, if someone tells you a deer is alive an hour after they put a razor sharp broadhead through both lungs of a deer,their fool of you know what.


logs 01-22-2003 01:37 PM

RE: Double lung shot
 
Sticker, you said it all with this" How in the world can an animal last an hour without being able to breathe?"
It can not.

All muscle needs oxygen to function. If the lungs are collapsed after a true double lung shot there will be no oxygen to the muscle/brian, and those muscles include the heart. The animal will die. If the animal doesn't die it means the shot did not completely collaspe both lungs. It may have touched both but did not puncher/collapse them or cause then to stop functioning completely.
An animal with a heart shot from a broadhead can go for miles since the heart in most animals only has to function at less than 50% in nornmal activity. If it is still functioning near that it can still travel. Once it bleeds out there is nothing to carry the oxygen to the muscle and brian and the animal dies.
Sometimes what appears to be a double lung shot isn't that at all.


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halcon 01-22-2003 02:00 PM

RE: Double lung shot
 
I have never had double lung shot go over sixty yards and most not that far . If you had one last an hour it wasn't a good hit in my opinion.I have had a lot of people that tell you where they hit an animal and it wasn't even close to where it was hit when we tracked it down .

Charlie P 01-22-2003 02:24 PM

RE: Double lung shot
 
A heart shot traveling for miles,I've never seen or heard of that happening either.


davidmil 01-22-2003 02:47 PM

RE: Double lung shot
 
A double lung... A REAL DOUBLE LUNG... and the deer will be dead before you gather your gear and get out of the tree. A glancing blow across a heart or one chamber might not be as effective all the time,... but the animal should not be going any mile. Catching the edges of a lung is not the same as punching the center. A deer has to loose about 1 ounce of blood per pound from the circulatory system to pass out. So, 150 deer needs to loose a little over 4 1/2 quarts. It doesn't all have to be on the ground.. just out of the arteries and veins. If the heart shuts down a deer won't loose the blood, but it'll have the same effect and they'll pass out before death. A REAL heart shot looks something like this.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> This deer didn't put a 1/2 cup of blood on the ground... but didn't go more than 25 yards.

Edited by - davidmil on 01/22/2003 15:48:53

Charlie P 01-22-2003 02:52 PM

RE: Double lung shot
 
They only way a heart shot deer is going miles is in the back of a truck.

David you did mean pints not quarts,right?



Edited by - Charlie P on 01/22/2003 15:53:54


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