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farmcntry 11-02-2007 08:30 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 

I jus think that the guy who wounds a deer gets unfairly POUNDED, sometimes.....
Agreed. And this will cause folks to claim a miss when in fact it was a wounding shot. JMO

JoeRE 11-02-2007 08:34 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 

ORIGINAL: Moebedda

Use a Rocket Hamerhead 2" 3 blade, Rage 2" 2 blade or any mechanical with a 2 inch or bigger cut and those not so perfect shots won't be so bad anymore. You will find more wounded deer with broadhead that does massive damage over your traditional 1" or 1 1/8" fixed blades.
Plug a brute in the shoulder with your massive rage BH and see if you still have that opinion. Cutting diameter can help with 'soft' tissue hits tho, I agree.

its no substitute for hitting where you aim though. (I am NOT implying that you were saying that)

Moebedda 11-02-2007 08:46 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Just had some more time to think about this.

It is and it isn't. Let's take a shot where a deer ducks. Arrow flies right over it's back. The SHOT is EXACTLY where the archer aimed. The TARGET moved. Can't blame the archer for that.....unless there's an issue with shooting at a deer that's already on high alert.

It CAN be a worse shot (clean miss)....and it can be a GREAT shot. The target dictates much of how we perceive the outcome of the shot. I jus think that the guy who wounds a deer gets unfairly POUNDED, sometimes.....when he's done nothing worse than the guy who missed, clean (as far as execution).....and sometimes put a better shot on the animal.

I see both sides.
I had one move on me a couple weeks ago. I did learn a lesson about the whole thing. The 8 point was chasing a doe. I used my mouth to grunt to try and stop them, and then did it again. They both stopped on the 2nd louder mouth grunt. By then the buck was about 43 yards away. I let the 281FPS 420 grain Hammerhead tipped arrow go, it looked like it was heading right for the goods. It seemed that Both deer ran immediately after the shot. My Allegiance is super quiet, but the slighest noise on an alert deer will send them running. The deer ran about 50 yards and stopped, stood there for a minute wobbleing with the doe looking at him and fell over in the bean field. I saw his legs go up in the air. I figured him for dead. I waited, and about 10 minutes later, I saw this deer try to get up. He couldn't. It was a light rain, so the beans were quiet. I started to stalk to where I last saw him. It took me about 15 minutes to get within 15 yards of him. I saw his neck, pulled back and let one go on his neck. The deer, jumped up, ran about 100 yards into the woods, where i saw him stop and fall over again.

End result was, I hit the deer with the 1st shot in the back leg half way between the knee and the rump. While buthering the deer, I found the broadhead logged up by the hind quarter ball socket. The Hammerhead hit the back leg and slid all the way up the bone to the socket taking out the femoral artery and causing massive damage. This was the worst shot I have ever seen on a deer, and if I would have let him lay, he would have died in that spot.

Deer moved, Horrible shot, great broadhead, recovered deer, lesson learned. Don't shoot alert deer at that range. They will dodge your arrow even on the fastest of bows.

I shoot 4 inch groups at 50 yards.

MarkfromNWMO 11-02-2007 08:48 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 
Definitley prefer a clean miss, and agree things happen to great shooters that can cause a total miss.
A wounded deer may never show his face again, and most likely die elsewhere never to be found.

MN/Kyle 11-02-2007 09:29 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 


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Yes it is a worse shot, but it is the more desired result of the event.
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yup!

RTA47 11-02-2007 09:36 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 

[blockquote]quote:

I jus think that the guy who wounds a deer gets unfairly POUNDED, sometimes.....[/blockquote]

Agreed. And this will cause folks to claim a miss when in fact it was a wounding shot. JMO

I could not agree more;).



tsoc 11-02-2007 10:43 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 
This is exactly why I am for the middle!:D:D
Sorry couldn't resist! Clean miss every day of the week!

ArrowMike 11-02-2007 11:10 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 

ORIGINAL: JoeRE


ORIGINAL: Moebedda

Use a Rocket Hamerhead 2" 3 blade, Rage 2" 2 blade or any mechanical with a 2 inch or bigger cut and those not so perfect shots won't be so bad anymore. You will find more wounded deer with broadhead that does massive damage over your traditional 1" or 1 1/8" fixed blades.
Plug a brute in the shoulder with your massive rage BH and see if you still have that opinion. Cutting diameter can help with 'soft' tissue hits tho, I agree.

its no substitute for hitting where you aim though. (I am NOT implying that you were saying that)
Even in soft tissue this does not mean that you will recover it.

shed33 11-02-2007 11:15 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 
Clean miss, I'd take anytimeversus wounding a deer...Yet I have wounded and lost animals before.. Buck, bear..

marginal hit...... be disciplined and prepaired to wait and pay the consequences of losing the meat. Finding him is better than not at all.. imo

on another note....I knowtwo guys (locally here where i live)that have openly stated to methat theywill purposely wound a big deer just to get him bleeding..because he's big..get him bleeding so they can find him in a day or too.. the consequence of losing the meat is a secondary priority to the antlers on his head.. long as they get those antlers...

Gundeck 11-02-2007 11:26 AM

RE: Clean miss vs. wounded deer
 
I agree with the majority. Yes, a clean miss is a worse shot, but the result is much more desirable.


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