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KIDD642 10-23-2007 06:19 PM
Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
I was finally able to shoot my new general. I have a G5 LE sight, predators view peep, I just threw on a quiktune 3000 til I getmy new hostage rest,CX maxima 3d selects, the bow is 70lb 26 " with loop. I started at 20 yards, shot a 2" group with 4 arrows. Stepped back to 30 yards; another 2 "ish group. Stepped back to 40 yards had two out of 4 arrows touching and the other two were also touching but about 1.5" away not sure what I did there (two seperate little groups) stepped back to 50 (now I am in the neighbors yard) (they are fine with it he shoots at my targets all the time) Anyway. I stepped back to 50 (gettin ready for Mantana in 10 days:D) I shoot 4 arrows in a 3" group. I was skeptical because the bow has such a short ATA but as long asI do my thing It is there. This bow is also unbelievably quiet. I shot about 50 shots out of it and I am really excited to kill something with this bow in Montana. Just thought I would share.

Bullet Hole Bailey 10-23-2007 06:23 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
COOL!!!!

I WANT ONE!!!:D

PABuck_HNTR 10-23-2007 06:30 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
I'm waiting on one. I mean I have one on order

Rob/PA Bowyer 10-23-2007 06:30 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
Very cool to know Frank. I want one too. I have my Viper Predator Pro MT with a 4X Zeiss lens waiting on it. I'll tell ya what it can do.;)

robdre56 10-23-2007 06:33 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
how much does it cost

Washington Hunter 10-23-2007 07:04 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
We got it in at work and I'm thinking we got a lemon.

Something in the cams, and I have no idea what it is, vibrates like crazy. I tightened down every bolt on the bow and yet I can tap one finger on either cam and feel it vibrate through.

Shoots like a dream, but I can't get over the vibration. Any ideas?

I won't be back into work until Saturday, but it was driving me nuts yesterday,

MO_Bowhnter 10-23-2007 07:07 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
Wash, does it vibrate on the shot?

Washington Hunter 10-23-2007 07:09 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
Yep.

I can shoot it, count to five, and still feel it in the grip.

The thing is dead quiet, shoots awesome (I busted a nock with the first two arrows I shot), but that vibration bugs me. I put an S-Coil on, just to see, and it was still there.

Kelly/KY 10-23-2007 07:14 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
I suspect there's a flaw WH...I have less hand shock and vibration than any bow I've ever shot.

Washington Hunter 10-23-2007 07:15 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
Thats what I was thinking, too.

We recieved two, but I only had a chance to shoot the one. My initial thought was the modules, so I tightened those down, but it was still there.

Kelly/KY 10-23-2007 07:34 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
I was about to ask if you've tightened the mods, but guess that answered my question. You may also check the string suppressor pocket or whatever you call it. It has some allen screws, but I doubt it would cause as much vibration as you have described. Best of luck, don't write the bow off, it's a great hunting bow.

Matt / PA 10-23-2007 08:10 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
Its not the mods and you're exaggerating that you can feelanything after the shot.;)

It's your cam/axel spacers.
Somebody in the build room left out a cam spacer and the 2 little ones are buzzing against each other on the shelf side of the cam. You can probably drop a finger in there and spin them by hand.
Look closely at the gap between the limb cap and the cam surface, if you can see axel or move the spacer/s by handthen the spacer is wrong.
Throw it in a press,bring the axel out 1/3 of the way to drop the spacers on that side and swap out with a .112" solid single spacer. Thats what I did for mine because when I would flick the cam with my finger to check the mod screws I was getting a buzz on mine.
If you don't have on hand have the shop guy call Bowtech for spacers.

Trust me someone at Bowtech got a punch in the temple for that one but I think a couple got out the door like that. :eek:Its a $.05 / 5 minute fix but annoying nontheless.



I can almost guarantee you that's the problem and it's aquickie fix.

KIDD642 10-23-2007 08:16 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
As standard procedure I always , BEFORE I shoot any bow, check all the mod screws ( i even use blue loctite on them) check e-clips, suppressors, you name it. The bow pretty much gets the once over. I usually have success with it after that. Archery is a sport of detail. BYthe way I am getting 278ft per sec with a 350gr arrow @ 26" not too bad.

Alex Nenadic 10-24-2007 05:57 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

Its not the mods and you're exaggerating that you can feelanything after the shot.;)

It's your cam/axel spacers.
Somebody in the build room left out a cam spacer and the 2 little ones are buzzing against each other on the shelf side of the cam. You can probably drop a finger in there and spin them by hand.
Look closely at the gap between the limb cap and the cam surface, if you can see axel or move the spacer/s by handthen the spacer is wrong.
Throw it in a press,bring the axel out 1/3 of the way to drop the spacers on that side and swap out with a .112" solid single spacer. Thats what I did for mine because when I would flick the cam with my finger to check the mod screws I was getting a buzz on mine.
If you don't have on hand have the shop guy call Bowtech for spacers.

Trust me someone at Bowtech got a punch in the temple for that one but I think a couple got out the door like that. :eek:Its a $.05 / 5 minute fix but annoying nontheless.



I can almost guarantee you that's the problem and it's aquickie fix.
You are absolutely right, my General has the same problem. Those spacers were very loose and every time I knocked on the limbs with my knuckles they would buzz. The bow is at the shop right now, although the dealer didn't know what was wrong and was waiting on an answer from Bowtech. Guess I'll go tell him tomorrow.

The other problem I had on mine was a twisted limb, but thats another story.

fwf79 10-24-2007 07:29 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
ORIGINAL: Alex Nenadic

ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

Its not the mods and you're exaggerating that you can feelanything after the shot.;)

It's your cam/axel spacers.
Somebody in the build room left out a cam spacer and the 2 little ones are buzzing against each other on the shelf side of the cam. You can probably drop a finger in there and spin them by hand.
Look closely at the gap between the limb cap and the cam surface, if you can see axel or move the spacer/s by handthen the spacer is wrong.
Throw it in a press,bring the axel out 1/3 of the way to drop the spacers on that side and swap out with a .112" solid single spacer. Thats what I did for mine because when I would flick the cam with my finger to check the mod screws I was getting a buzz on mine.
If you don't have on hand have the shop guy call Bowtech for spacers.

Trust me someone at Bowtech got a punch in the temple for that one but I think a couple got out the door like that. :eek:Its a $.05 / 5 minute fix but annoying nontheless.



I can almost guarantee you that's the problem and it's aquickie fix.
You are absolutely right, my General has the same problem. Those spacers were very loose and every time I knocked on the limbs with my knuckles they would buzz. The bow is at the shop right now, although the dealer didn't know what was wrong and was waiting on an answer from Bowtech. Guess I'll go tell him tomorrow.

The other problem I had on mine was a twisted limb, but thats another story.
I really want to try a Bowtech as I have been a Mathews man forever; but stories like this make me wonder.

Matt / PA 10-24-2007 07:49 PM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
I really want to try a Bowtech as I have been a Mathews man forever; but stories like this make me wonder.
Actually the clarification on this that I got was that the spacers aren't technically wrong, but the end caps that go over the limb tips were out of spec. The supplier sent a bunch that were under spec with regards tothickness which caused the standard spacer widths to be incompatible because the end cap itself is supposed to fill that void.There is nothing structurally "wrong" with them, they just should have been mated with a larger thickness spacer and the builders didn't catch it. They weregoing off their spec sheets for spacer thickness not figuring the end caps would come in of a varying thickness.
The build team is aware of these end caps and it's only supposed to be a batch of them that went out this way and their is a QC person checking each one to make sure the fit is correct. Bowtech will supply any dealer with the replacement parts to take away any buzz that the gap might cause.

They won't all be like that obviously but if you're one of the lucky early ones that were in that batch (like myself) it's seriously a 5 minute no hassle fix. (if that)

NY911Bowhunter 10-28-2007 07:08 AM
RE: Impressed w/ 2008 General!
 
I really want to try a Bowtech as I have been a Mathews man forever; but stories like this make me wonder.
Me too - but I made the switch to a used, beat up Guardian...and i couldnt be happier...I am ordering a General soon....hopefully black with black cams if they will do it.


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