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spine shot gone bad
Saw A nice buck tonight, took a shot at 36 yards, it looked good, buck dropped in his tracks. He was quartering away, turned straight away at the last second. I see the buck acting like it's crippled then all of a sudden it gets up and walks away! As it's walking away, I can't believe it, I see my arrow sticking straight up but can't tell exactly where from. Somewhere between the front shoulders and the top of his head and still looked to be in line with the spine. That buck shouldn't be able to walk, yet after a couple hours wait, I tracked a good blood trail for about 200 yards where it just stopped. Where I lost the blood trail there is very thick cover to either side. I figured I'd better back out and go look again in the morning. I had tracked it into some thick stuff, figured it went in to die but came out on the other side, went down a logging road where I lost the blood trail.
I don't know what to think, the blood was real bright red almost like lung blood but no bubbles. Though it looked like a spine shot and that was what I was aiming for, could I have missed the spine and got a shoulder blade or the back of the skull? It hit something solid, I didn't get a real good look but it looked like 2/3's of my arrow did not penatrate and it looked like it was stuck strait up and down as he staggered away. I tried a 50 yard desperation shot but it went right under him and broke that arrow on a rock and spooked him a bit. I found white hair on the trail, and no blood or broad head on the arrow. He got a hair cut just below the heart with that shot, should have held just a little higher, I didn't compinsate for the 10 mph wind! grrrr He ran about 10 yards then stood still like he was going to drop again. Staggered backwards, almost sat down like a dog. Then he just walked down the hill out of sight, the last thing I saw was my arrow disapear over the hill very slowly, weaving back and forth, my green and yellow vanes up higher than his antlers. I really wasn't planning to go back tomorrow but I have no choice. It's a 2 hour drive, going to have to borrow the gas money to go look. To ad insult to injury, as I was waiting to climb down, I see the buck I've been after for this the 7th year. He has 1 white sock on his left front leg that goes up past his knee. His twin sister was my first bow kill, I spared his life when he was a nubber buck and again when he was 2 1/2 years old. he's now about a 24" spread and 12 points, I'm guessing 160 class min. well over 200 lbs with real dark antlers and was bedded 50 yards behind my stand tonight. As I was gathering up my stuff in my stand, he just got up and walked away. Not sure if I spooked him or not, wouldn't be the first time old white sock has done that to me. Glad to see he's still kicking, hadn't see him for sure since opening day 2006. It's too warm to leave it verry long. I'll be back on it's trail in a few hours. I woud have stayed out but my 2 best friends are out in Colorado elk hunting and they took all my good flash lights and half my gear with 'em. The best light I have left is my streamlight TLR2 tactical light and laser on my Sig .22 Mosquito. Didn't have it with. If I'm lucky, I'll find my buck and pick off a few coyotes too. No sleep tonight. Paack a lunch or two and I'm driving back. Wish me luck, at least it's not raining. |
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Though it looked like a spine shot and that was what I was aiming for, could I have missed the spine and got a shoulder blade or the back of the skull? Why would you be aiming for a spine shot with a bow? There is way to much that can go wrong. I hope you find him but that would not be where I or alot of other Bow Hunters would have been aiming. Good Luck finding him. |
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took a spine shot at 36 yards and on purpose?......anyone want butter
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ORIGINAL: wack To ad insult to injury, as I was waiting to climb down, I see the buck I've been after for this the 7th year. He has 1 white sock on his left front leg that goes up past his knee. His twin sister was my first bow kill, I spared his life when he was a nubber buck and again when he was 2 1/2 years old. he's now about a 24" spread and 12 points, I'm guessing 160 class min. well over 200 lbs with real dark antlers and was bedded 50 yards behind my stand tonight. I'm amazed that this paragraph follows immediately afterthe story of yourcomplete disreguardfor bowhunting ethics. |
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 That's all I have to say!!! |
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Heart & Lungs, Heart & Lungs, Heart & Lungs!!!
The Spinal Cord itself is about 1/2" wide!!! Sure you can break ones back, that will give you about a 1 3/4" target on an average buck. Good luck I hope you find him. |
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Hmmmmm....
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ORIGINAL: pigiron ORIGINAL: wack To ad insult to injury, as I was waiting to climb down, I see the buck I've been after for this the 7th year. He has 1 white sock on his left front leg that goes up past his knee. His twin sister was my first bow kill, I spared his life when he was a nubber buck and again when he was 2 1/2 years old. he's now about a 24" spread and 12 points, I'm guessing 160 class min. well over 200 lbs with real dark antlers and was bedded 50 yards behind my stand tonight. I'm amazed that this paragraph follows immediately afterthe story of yourcomplete disreguardfor bowhunting ethics. |
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I am pretty sure that we all feel the same way about this post.....
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Wow! Good luck I do hope you find him. Thats all I am going to say on this one.
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ORIGINAL: cynikalHC I am pretty sure that we all feel the same way about this post..... |
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Sigh [>:]
Shane |
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ORIGINAL: wack Saw A nice buck tonight, took a shot at 36 yards, it looked good, buck dropped in his tracks. He was quartering away, turned straight away at the last second. I see the buck acting like it's crippled then all of a sudden it gets up and walks away! As it's walking away, I can't believe it, I see my arrow sticking straight up but can't tell exactly where from. Somewhere between the front shoulders and the top of his head and still looked to be in line with the spine. That buck shouldn't be able to walk, yet after a couple hours wait, I tracked a good blood trail for about 200 yards where it just stopped. Where I lost the blood trail there is very thick cover to either side. I figured I'd better back out and go look again in the morning. I had tracked it into some thick stuff, figured it went in to die but came out on the other side, went down a logging road where I lost the blood trail. I don't know what to think, the blood was real bright red almost like lung blood but no bubbles. Though it looked like a spine shot and that was what I was aiming for, could I have missed the spine and got a shoulder blade or the back of the skull? It hit something solid, I didn't get a real good look but it looked like 2/3's of my arrow did not penatrate and it looked like it was stuck strait up and down as he staggered away. I tried a 50 yard desperation shot but it went right under him and broke that arrow on a rock and spooked him a bit. I found white hair on the trail, and no blood or broad head on the arrow. He got a hair cut just below the heart with that shot, should have held just a little higher, I didn't compinsate for the 10 mph wind! grrrr He ran about 10 yards then stood still like he was going to drop again. Staggered backwards, almost sat down like a dog. Then he just walked down the hill out of sight, the last thing I saw was my arrow disapear over the hill very slowly, weaving back and forth, my green and yellow vanes up higher than his antlers. I really wasn't planning to go back tomorrow but I have no choice. It's a 2 hour drive, going to have to borrow the gas money to go look. |
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If you would've put in thru the lungs(like most ethical hunters would do[:@]),you'd be eating backstraps right now.Man, this pisses me off![:@][:@][:@]
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Looks like ol wack isn't coming back. Go back to school son before you attempt another shot on a live animal.
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I'm still hoping I read it wrong or at the least, he miswrote it.[&:]
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He got a hair cut just below the heart with that shot, should have held just a little higher, I didn't compinsate for the 10 mph wind! grrrr Though it looked like a spine shot and that was what I was aiming for, could I have missed the spine and got a shoulder blade or the back of the skull? Even if it did indeed hit his spine,which does happen,you would need a finishing shot to take the animal out of its misery. I am just hoping the deer isnt walking around with an arrow stuck in his head.[:@] Watch some videos,read some magazines,spend some more time here on the forums and you will learn something about a deers anatomy. Accidents do happen and deer are spine shot all the time(accidently) but not DELIBERATELY[:@] |
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Unbelievable if yer that good of a shot that you can hit a deer in the spine why not just take a ethical shot and shoot him through his vitals. It is people like you that give bowhunters a bad name.
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Relax guys, I went back and it took 15 minutes for me to find my 8 pointer. He was only about 25 yards past were i gave up the blood trail.
When I wrote last night I was a bit scattered. I read what I wrote and see why I'm getting bashed. I wasn't aiming for a spine shot. I WAS aiming for a quartering away heart lung shot. It ducked and roled away from the arrow. If I was aiming for the spine i would have missed completely because of the way it ducked down. I was aiming at the left side. The arrow went in between the spine and right shoulder. He rolled his back toward me, dropped his front left leg which is why the arrow was staight up and down, and made it in far enough to get 1 lung. When I first saw the buck drop in his tracks, I knew he tried ducking the arrow and I was relieved that it looked like a good spine shot. He didn't get up for at least 4 minutes. I could only see his hind quarter when he was laying there, I knocked another arrow right away but the way he was just laying there, I didn't think he was going to need another arrow..... until he got back up. The 50 yard shot was stupid. I practiced it a few times but just enough to know that I shouldn't take a 50 yard shot. If I wouldn't have taken the 2nd shot I think he might have just layed down again and died with in sight. My first thought after the 2nd arrow was," that looked like a Tred Barta shot." not my proudest moment, but now seeing the deer, I did draw blood with the hair cut, may have added a few blood drops to the thin blood trail I had to follow. As far as: quote: ORIGINAL: pigiron quote: ORIGINAL: wack To ad insult to injury, as I was waiting to climb down, I see the buck I've been after for this the 7th year. He has 1 white sock on his left front leg that goes up past his knee. His twin sister was my first bow kill, I spared his life when he was a nubber buck and again when he was 2 1/2 years old. he's now about a 24" spread and 12 points, I'm guessing 160 class min. well over 200 lbs with real dark antlers and was bedded 50 yards behind my stand tonight. I'm amazed that this paragraph follows immediately after the story of your complete disreguard for bowhunting ethics. I also want to add that this is the highest stand I hunt from, about 20 feet high. I use a pendulum sight and don't care about exact yardage, just that it's under 40 yards. Anything under 40 aim dead on with single pin. In my mind the shot was at about 25 yards. He's got a big body, high stand, it looked to be perfect range Later ranging the spot where he fell was 36 yards. The actual impact I'd guesstamate at about 30 yards. I promised myself to keep my shots under 30 this season, I'm changing that thought to 25 yards as of now. This is also the first Quik Spin Speed Hunter vanes I've ever shot at an animal. He deffinitly heard the arrow coming, I wont be using them next year. My bow is about as quiet as they get, I was surprised to see him jump the string, he was eating and looking the other way, I didn't hurry my shot at all. So you all can bash away, I knew it was coming, I bashed myself all night got home at 5:30 am. Whle bashing me please remember how easy it is to make a mistake while hunting. It's easy to preach and point fingers but it all comes down to what you do with buck fever and split second decissions. One second I'm looking at the perfect dream shot, the next second I'm looking at I don't know where it hit shot, then it looks like a spine shot, deer down. I'm happy but confused, how did he duck like that? Then he gets up and walks away staggering! Up down up down, I panicked and flung a desperate arrow. So yea, I screwed up, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN it was at 30 and not 25, and that he would jump my string and arrow. After the shot, laying on the ground for 4 minutes, I thought he was dead plus I couldn't see where my arrow was or anything but his hind legs, and they weren't moving....until he got up and started walking......What a night, and it's not over yet. He's hanging in the garage, hide off and it's already in the 60's. Time to finish quartering. Thanks for all the support, you guys are all wonderfull. It's nice to know I have a lot of perfect hunters here who I can draw inspiration and knowledge from. lol |
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Wack
What in the hell is wrong with you, taking a shot like that.  |
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Must be a typo... No one would try and take a spine shot at 30 plus yards. Ugly death EVEN if you made the shot. I like the lungs. Nice big target with most room for error
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Congrats on the recovery!!
Pictures? |
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I also learned that I shouldn't post when I'm in a tizzy like that. lolMy wife was making me something to eat, I was trying to keep occupied so as not to rush back up there too soon. I did write that I aimed for the spine. That was inncorrect, and if it was, I deserved the bashing. I was not aiming for the spine but I thought I was dealing with a spine shot. Watching him walk away with an arrow sticking straight up was mind blowing! I held the pin right at the sweet spot quartering away but the difference between high vitals area from that angle and the actual shot placement, he definitly ducked. I'd guess from the impact that he was able to drop about 4-8 inches before the arrow got there.
The comment about my mentor, I'd have to say I'm much more ethical than my mentor. Not all of us are blessed with great teachers. I practice more, take fewer shots in the woods and will pass a nubber buck, fawns with spots and doe with fawns with spots. My mentor won't. I'll take a managment buck, he'll shoot the first buck, no mater what. He likes Tred Barta, I think he flings too many arrow irresponsibly. He likes to hunt over bait, I perfer not to. Any of you pro hunters want to take me hunting and mentor me, give me a shout. I'm 41 years old, been bow hunting my 7th season, (yet to be skunked )and gun hunting about 25 years. I've filled more tags than left unfilled and have only not found 2 deer in time in 7 years. I found both but coyotes found them first. I've completely missed a deer 1 time, grabbed another arrow and made that one count. So I'm not as unethical as my writing would seem. I'm just not a good writer when stressed out . I should have proof read it first at least. lol I forgive any spine shot bashing, I would have bashed me too the way I wrote it. I still don't understand how the buck took my arrow at the angle and spot it did. It was absolutly straight up and down as if shot straight down at him. I shot at the left side and it went in just to the right of the spine hitting inside of right shoulder breaking the shoulder and deflating 1 lung, barely. He was still warm when I found him about 2 am. I'm lucky I didn't push him sooner. |
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Alls well that ends well. I'm glad you say you didn't take that spine shot intentionally. I for one give you the benefit of the doubt. Good job lets see some pics!
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Like I said, I'm glad then I was right and read it wrong and you wrote it wrong. I didn't think that way about you, at least didn't want to. I'm glad you took the time to explain it...and some of you should read all the posts because after he explained it, your still not getting it...some of you read the thread starter but not his reply...read people.;)
Now, where are the pictures to close this chapter. Congrats Wack. :D |
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After reading your updated version,XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(I am taking back my pat on the backuntil you prove to me you deserve it) But you have to admit, and you already have, that your original post made it sound like you were aiming at the spine with the deer walking away from you. Now show us some pics of that bad boy!!!!  |
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ORIGINAL: wack Saw A nice buck tonight, took a shot at 36 yards, it looked good, buck dropped in his tracks. He was quartering away, turned straight away at the last second. I see the buck acting like it's crippled then all of a sudden it gets up and walks away! As it's walking away, I can't believe it, I see my arrow sticking straight up but can't tell exactly where from. Somewhere between the front shoulders and the top of his head and still looked to be in line with the spine. That buck shouldn't be able to walk, yet after a couple hours wait, I tracked a good blood trail for about 200 yards where it just stopped. Where I lost the blood trail there is very thick cover to either side. I figured I'd better back out and go look again in the morning. I had tracked it into some thick stuff, figured it went in to die but came out on the other side, went down a logging road where I lost the blood trail. I don't know what to think, the blood was real bright red almost like lung blood but no bubbles. Though it looked like a spine shot and that was what I was aiming for, could I have missed the spine and got a shoulder blade or the back of the skull? It hit something solid, I didn't get a real good look but it looked like 2/3's of my arrow did not penatrate and it looked like it was stuck strait up and down as he staggered away. I tried a 50 yard desperation shot but it went right under him and broke that arrow on a rock and spooked him a bit. I found white hair on the trail, and no blood or broad head on the arrow. He got a hair cut just below the heart with that shot, should have held just a little higher, I didn't compinsate for the 10 mph wind! grrrr He ran about 10 yards then stood still like he was going to drop again. Staggered backwards, almost sat down like a dog. Then he just walked down the hill out of sight, the last thing I saw was my arrow disapear over the hill very slowly, weaving back and forth, my green and yellow vanes up higher than his antlers. I really wasn't planning to go back tomorrow but I have no choice. It's a 2 hour drive, going to have to borrow the gas money to go look. To ad insult to injury, as I was waiting to climb down, I see the buck I've been after for this the 7th year. He has 1 white sock on his left front leg that goes up past his knee. His twin sister was my first bow kill, I spared his life when he was a nubber buck and again when he was 2 1/2 years old. he's now about a 24" spread and 12 points, I'm guessing 160 class min. well over 200 lbs with real dark antlers and was bedded 50 yards behind my stand tonight. As I was gathering up my stuff in my stand, he just got up and walked away. Not sure if I spooked him or not, wouldn't be the first time old white sock has done that to me. Glad to see he's still kicking, hadn't see him for sure since opening day 2006. It's too warm to leave it verry long. I'll be back on it's trail in a few hours. I woud have stayed out but my 2 best friends are out in Colorado elk hunting and they took all my good flash lights and half my gear with 'em. The best light I have left is my streamlight TLR2 tactical light and laser on my Sig .22 Mosquito. Didn't have it with. If I'm lucky, I'll find my buck and pick off a few coyotes too. No sleep tonight. Paack a lunch or two and I'm driving back. Wish me luck, at least it's not raining. Tim |
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Like I said. It was a TYPO.
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My appologies!!:)Good job on recovering your deer!
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Pics? :D
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pictures?
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Wack
After reading your explaintion, I retract my statement. Glad you found the buck. |
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Nice, clarification was needed. Good Job we do want to see the pics.
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I read both andI still think your a goff ball.
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Congrats, glad you found him.
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[/align] [blockquote] ORIGINAL: pigiron ORIGINAL: wack To ad insult to injury, as I was waiting to climb down, I see the buck I've been after for this the 7th year. He has 1 white sock on his left front leg that goes up past his knee. His twin sister was my first bow kill, I spared his life when he was a nubber buck and again when he was 2 1/2 years old. he's now about a 24" spread and 12 points, I'm guessing 160 class min. well over 200 lbs with real dark antlers and was bedded 50 yards behind my stand tonight. I'm amazed that this paragraph follows immediately afterthe story of yourcomplete disreguardfor bowhunting ethics. Sorry for the bash wack, but really..... what did you expect. Your post was worded in a way that made it sound like you intentionally made a spine shot. There's been a few "Gotcha" threads lately, as well as a few threads that are just plain shocking (head shots with a bow), so anymore nothing really surprises me. I'm happy to hear of your recovery, and congradulations.;) [/blockquote] |
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Now that I started reading the whole post before replying I have 2 things to say.
1. Nice buck im sure and congrats on the recovery. 2. We wont see no pics because he was in a hurry to cool the deer down. Thus he didn't get no pics of the buck and he skinned it right away. |
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ORIGINAL: wack Relax guys, I went back and it took 15 minutes for me to find my 8 pointer. He was only about 25 yards past were i gave up the blood trail. When I wrote last night I was a bit scattered. I read what I wrote and see why I'm getting bashed. I wasn't aiming for a spine shot. I WAS aiming for a quartering away heart lung shot. It ducked and roled away from the arrow. If I was aiming for the spine i would have missed completely because of the way it ducked down. I was aiming at the left side. The arrow went in between the spine and right shoulder. He rolled his back toward me, dropped his front left leg which is why the arrow was staight up and down, and made it in far enough to get 1 lung. When I first saw the buck drop in his tracks, I knew he tried ducking the arrow and I was relieved that it looked like a good spine shot. He didn't get up for at least 4 minutes. I could only see his hind quarter when he was laying there, I knocked another arrow right away but the way he was just laying there, I didn't think he was going to need another arrow..... until he got back up. The 50 yard shot was stupid. I practiced it a few times but just enough to know that I shouldn't take a 50 yard shot. If I wouldn't have taken the 2nd shot I think he might have just layed down again and died with in sight. My first thought after the 2nd arrow was," that looked like a Tred Barta shot." not my proudest moment, but now seeing the deer, I did draw blood with the hair cut, may have added a few blood drops to the thin blood trail I had to follow. As far as: quote: ORIGINAL: pigiron quote: ORIGINAL: wack To ad insult to injury, as I was waiting to climb down, I see the buck I've been after for this the 7th year. He has 1 white sock on his left front leg that goes up past his knee. His twin sister was my first bow kill, I spared his life when he was a nubber buck and again when he was 2 1/2 years old. he's now about a 24" spread and 12 points, I'm guessing 160 class min. well over 200 lbs with real dark antlers and was bedded 50 yards behind my stand tonight. I'm amazed that this paragraph follows immediately after the story of your complete disreguard for bowhunting ethics. I also want to add that this is the highest stand I hunt from, about 20 feet high. I use a pendulum sight and don't care about exact yardage, just that it's under 40 yards. Anything under 40 aim dead on with single pin. In my mind the shot was at about 25 yards. He's got a big body, high stand, it looked to be perfect range Later ranging the spot where he fell was 36 yards. The actual impact I'd guesstamate at about 30 yards. I promised myself to keep my shots under 30 this season, I'm changing that thought to 25 yards as of now. This is also the first Quik Spin Speed Hunter vanes I've ever shot at an animal. He deffinitly heard the arrow coming, I wont be using them next year. My bow is about as quiet as they get, I was surprised to see him jump the string, he was eating and looking the other way, I didn't hurry my shot at all. So you all can bash away, I knew it was coming, I bashed myself all night got home at 5:30 am. Whle bashing me please remember how easy it is to make a mistake while hunting. It's easy to preach and point fingers but it all comes down to what you do with buck fever and split second decissions. One second I'm looking at the perfect dream shot, the next second I'm looking at I don't know where it hit shot, then it looks like a spine shot, deer down. I'm happy but confused, how did he duck like that? Then he gets up and walks away staggering! Up down up down, I panicked and flung a desperate arrow. So yea, I screwed up, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN it was at 30 and not 25, and that he would jump my string and arrow. After the shot, laying on the ground for 4 minutes, I thought he was dead plus I couldn't see where my arrow was or anything but his hind legs, and they weren't moving....until he got up and started walking......What a night, and it's not over yet. He's hanging in the garage, hide off and it's already in the 60's. Time to finish quartering. Thanks for all the support, you guys are all wonderfull. It's nice to know I have a lot of perfect hunters here who I can draw inspiration and knowledge from. lol |
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Glad you found your Buck. I too am glad you did not do that intentionally. Thanks for clearing that up.
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