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mcgeehill 10-08-2007 03:16 PM

Slic-Trick failed me...sort of.
 
Monday Oct1
I shot a doe, perfect broadside double lung shot 20 yards. I was usingmy only bow wich was a Buckmasters G2, Carbon Force 300 predator arrow tipped with a Slick-Trick. After waiting 45 min me and my father went to the shot sight and found no blood.....searched for 2 hrs, still no blood. We did eventually find her several hrs later 1/4 mile away with the aid of a hound. The shot hole left alot to be desired. I did find my arrow with minimal blood. Yes I did get my deer and yes the 'Tricks DO fly like feild points, however I was kinda dissapointed in em....(sorry Muzzy, Ill never cheat again!) Now on the good side of things, the following Wed. eve I went to the local pro shop to get me some more Muzzy's......I walked out with some Muzzy's and a brand new BOWTECH!!!! Its just a TomKat but I Love it!!! Best bow I have ever owned!! My wife was pissed but she forgave me cuz I sold my spare drumset to pay for it.;)

cynikalHC 10-08-2007 03:19 PM

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Congrats on the doe... and the new bow. I usually end up having to buy my wife something also to make up for buying myself new hunting equipment.

mcgeehill 10-08-2007 03:26 PM

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hey cynikalHCyeah, she did make the comment that I better do something extra special for our anniversary this Friday!!!

StrutNtom 10-08-2007 03:26 PM

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Take her hunting!!!;):eek:

bigcountry 10-08-2007 03:28 PM

RE: Slic-Trick failed me...sort of.
 
When I see reports like this, it puzzles me. I meana broadhead can only do so much. You have cutting diamter and number of cuts. If a 4 blade 1" diameter slick trick went in and passed thru, its not going to cause any more damage than a muzzy 4 blade 1" cutting diameter will. It justcan't. But if you shot broadsided and it didn't penetrate all the way thru,cause the blades are too large in diamter or not sharp, I understand.

I have shot deer with muzzy, thunderhead, and spitfires, and cheap cabelas mechanicals, and G5 montecs. And all created about the same wound channel. The spitfirres may have created a larger one.

I guess what I amsaying is a broadhead isn't a bullet, where speed and constuction defines the wound. Only number of cuts and diameter.

YooperMike 10-08-2007 03:38 PM

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Extremely well said bigcountry! I was thinking the same thing. I used to use Thunderheads, now I use Slick Tridks and have been very pleased with the results. Some shots just don't leave alot of blood, exspecially if it was a high double lung, lots of cavity to fill up before the blood comes out.

fatsbucknut 10-08-2007 03:41 PM

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1/4 mile is a long run for a double lunged deer. Shot muzzy's for my first few seasons, they were awesome to me. congrats on finding her though

mcgeehill 10-08-2007 03:48 PM

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"When I see reports like this, it puzzles me. I meana broadhead can only do so much."
Hey brother it puzzles me to!! I agree with ya and I aint putting the blame on the Tricks. Heck it could a been the shot, the bow the arrow, the whole set up, the shooter, the devil!!! Who knows, thats just the way it went down and I dident wana chance it again..........so I just figured Id share mt thoughts

Rob/PA Bowyer 10-08-2007 03:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: fatsbucknut

1/4 mile is a long run for a double lunged deer. Shot muzzy's for my first few seasons, they were awesome to me. congrats on finding her though
That was going to be my point to fats, if she went 1/4 mile then I doubt you double lunged her or I question the sharpness of the heads. Had they been shot before or were they brand new never shot? (What we see isn't necessarily what happened).

The make/model of the head is not the issue, there was something more. (said as a Muzzy fan).

bigcountry 10-08-2007 03:51 PM

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We appreciate your thoughts, and I too have been standing in a area where I hit a deer, wondering why it didn't bleed any. Sometimes, you just can't explain it.

mcgeehill 10-08-2007 04:03 PM

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Ok, by the way I titled this mabey I did suggest it was the tricks, dident mean for it to sound that way.......and I m telling ya it was 1/4 mile no bs. When I gutted her I looked at her lungs.

childers 10-08-2007 05:35 PM

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yeah on saturday i bought my first pack of muzzy's and i got the six pack just cuz i know they are good

popeandyoungchaser 10-08-2007 06:06 PM

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IF the blades were dull this would be the problem of no blood. Were you using the older tricks or newer ones? I heard the older ones had blade sharpness issues( i can't testify to this just something i heard), but since going to the Soligen blades i have heard only good things, and i have six Muzzy's in my quiver right and still admit the tricks are an awsome head. Look forward to trying them this offseason, just hope that the O.S. doesn't come to quick!!!:D

gzg38b 10-09-2007 05:26 AM

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It's not the broadhead. It's shot placement. You probably had a high lung hit. Was the cavity full of blood when you opened her up? High lung hits tend to give worse blood trails because it takes time for the chest to fill up with blood and spill out.

I had the best blood trail of my life with slick tricks. Take a look. I love posting this link. I do it every chance I get LOL :). Great memories....

Warning - Graphic pics ahead....

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1725876&mpage=1&key=&#172588 6

kdsberman 10-09-2007 07:21 AM

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A new bow and new broadhead because of no blood?? (better check your release too lol) I shot a buck last year that had a complete pass thru and the buck ran 35 yards and died. Perfect shot. 1 spot of blood...thats it. I didnt think the words "Slick Tricks failed me" could go together in a sentence.

WTDoc 10-09-2007 07:37 AM

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I agree with kd,--I shot a button buck this past saturday (thought it was a small doe) 20 yd shot 2/3 up the chest and out behind the opposite shoulder blade. Very little blood at the impact site and very little blood up to about 10 yds from where I found him.--He went 25 yrd and died immediately--You cannot ask for anything more from a broadhead. Perfect flight, hits where you aim, sharp and sturdy. Yes, there wasn't a good blood trail at all, but I had no trouble finding the deer--

Mike

Kentster911 10-09-2007 07:42 AM

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Shot my first bow deer last Sat. Used a Slick Trick on Beman ICS 400's. Not much of a blood trail but didnt need one as she piled up at 30 yds. I will attempt to post pics.





Kentster911 10-09-2007 07:46 AM

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Exit hole





Kentster911 10-09-2007 07:48 AM

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r33h 10-09-2007 08:02 AM

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My first thought is have you been practicing a lot with the slicks by shooting them into a target and dulling the blades? I shot a wild boar over the weekend with one of my slicks and the boar was only able to run 20 yards, 30 yards max, before it had to lay down. The damage that the slicks did was pretty amazing...

Bullet Hole Bailey 10-09-2007 08:02 AM

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Kenster....what all did you hit inside of yer deer???

liver?

Kentster911 10-09-2007 08:14 AM

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Bullet Hole Bailey, I am not sure what all I hit, thought I got a heart shot but it was undamaged. I smacked her good and the Trick did its job. Here is another pic.





ijimmy 10-09-2007 08:27 AM

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Popeanyounghunter beat ne to it , blade sharpness plays a major roll also
cpuld have been a deciding factor in this situation , and , a passthru is not a passthru , when one is with sharp blades and the other with less than sharp blades .

sandilands 10-09-2007 12:01 PM

RE: Slic-Trick failed me...sort of.
 
Looks likea lung hit to me, I can't see any cuts on the small piece of theheart that I see. Liver is behind the diaphram.......your in front of that.
What are the details on the shot for this one. Were you in a treestand/ground blind? The shot angle doesn't look steep but it is on a slight angle....... completely broadside?
I have had similar issues with broadheads for the last 3 yrs, it isn't the broadhead. Its shot placement. Here's what has helped me. If shot from the ground or a low treestand I aim for the center of the bottom half of the chest. If shot at a steep angle I aim a little higher...... about on the centerline or a little higher. Try this just watch the angles and read the info for each shot
http://www.bowsite.com/BOWSITE/FEATURES/ARTICLES/DEER/DEERGEOMETRY/


ORIGINAL: Kentster911

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Kentster911 10-09-2007 02:32 PM

RE: Slic-Trick failed me...sort of.
 
Just to clarify, I did not start this post but was posting pics of my shot with my Slick Tricks. She piled up at 30 yards. The shot was 19.5 yards at approximately 13-15 feet off the ground (climber). It was an angle but not a steep one. I am pleased with my shot and the outcome.

Kentster911

Jackson Bowner 10-09-2007 03:52 PM

RE: Slic-Trick failed me...sort of.
 
Can't explain whyyour Slick Trick didn't do the job, but here isa picture of an entrance hole on one I shot with a Slick Trick. He went 40 yards and piled up.



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