Lease farmers who give permission
 

Today my brother in law (Ohiobuck25) and father in law went out for opening day to a property where we have permission from the LAND OWNER. As soon as we stop to get out a truck another truckflies right passed us enters the cornfield and drives the perimeter of the cornfield, we get in our truck and follow the guy. We catch up to him and my b.i.l goes to talk to the guy who drops the "Well I know the farmer." My b.i.l. advised the hunter to get with the landownder for permission because the farmer doesn't have the authority to give permission to whoever to hunt because he doesnt own the land. There was some flack between the two but we didnt run the guy off. This is not the first time we have found someone on this property who used the farmer line. All in all we have found about five people from this year and last. My question is "How do we make individuals go to the landowner for permission in a why where we dont come off like the gustopo?" Since we dont technically own the land we dont want to start running everyone out!My b.i.l. can be a . . . . if you know what I mean! It is just rediculous......Has anyone encountered this before?

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want to "fix" it? lease the hunting rights yourself.

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In many cases though.. the farmers have rights to the land. The farmer is leasing the rights to the land (not just the right to farm)... to do as he/she sees fit. This means hunting rights as well.

My in-laws farm over 3000 acres in Ohio. Some leased, some owned but the hunters have to come to them for permission to hunt. I'm not saying this is always the case, may be different in different areas but it is often the decision of those who pay to use the land and not that of the actual landowner.

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Doesn't the person who gives permission have to sign your Ohio license ?

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get with the land owner and the farmer that leases the land and decied who has the right to give permisson if you can give the farmer or the land owner

what i would recommend is that the you the farmer and land owner come up with say each oen of you get to give three people permisson to hunt there and set days aside like opening day a a day or so a week where only you the farmer and land owner and you current people your with can hunt and all other days are opent o the list of people and any one else hunting will be reported for tresspassing to the cops that is a good way to solve it .

and the only way you will keep people of when you wont them off is to either report them or shot them you pick wich.

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My point exactly! No permission slip no hunting rights!

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In my experience, generally the renter/farmer holds the hunting rights, unless it's explicitly worded in the lease otherwise. It's their crops really and they are renting the land...

We have actually had problems the other way ;) Land that my family farms/ leases and the owner's giving hunting permission to others (which can get dangerous, especially if they are hunting with firearms). In our case, a simple conversation with the actual owner cleared things up - they now send anyone seeking permission our way...

I suppose it's different in every situation.... As was mentioned, the best thing is to get everyone of the same page...

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I hunt some family owned land and when the farming lease changed to new hands afew yrs back, I said I wanted in the lease the unconditional hunting rights. I was told that wasnt possible, but the new tennent knew of my desires and wont let anyone on. In fact, he leases a lot of ground and doesnt let anyone on, even though he may have the right. He sends people to the landowner for permission.

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I lease a portion of my farm out and the lease states it is for farming only, no hunting rights.

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Written permission, it's the law, and if you yourself don't carry it, guess what. Yep, your in violation also.

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You have to know the laws and how they are enforced.

11 words.

Understand what I just said! (It's not a question)

I'm not saying anything more about it.

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In ohio you have to have writen permission on your person at all times when you are hunting private land. Trust me, don't get caught w/out it. Mine dropped out of my license holder on the floor of the truck and i just happened to get checked while walking out , honest mistake, but what an a$$ the game warden was.

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Maybe in your state it's the law....but not in Illinois. Although I would love to see it made into a law.

I had the SAME exact thing happen to me last year as Mahoningbuck did, I had asked and got permission from the land owner who assured me that I was the only one hunting there, and if I seen anyone...run them off. Well just as Iget settled, a 4-wheeler comes right through the bean field, through the over grown pasture, and stops 35 yards in front of me, I hit him with my flashlight (not literally) and he YELLS "YA, I SEE YOU" does he move? Hell no, to make a long story shorter, his daughter is hunting on the ground 35 yards in front of me and he is 60 yards behind me...they totally cut me off. And after I got down I asked who gave them permission his response was " The tenant farmer, and I've been hunting here for 30 years". This year I paid for custom signs and got written permission that I had exclusive hunting rights. Next step will be to call the game warden on that rude S.O.B

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As it seems in many other states, in KS. the landowner looses his/her power of authority to his/her land once he/she leases/rents thier land to another farmer. The farmer who works/farms the ground has the authority to give permission to who hunts the land, UNLESS otherwise written in black and white.

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My buddy has 100 acres in S E Ohio. Before we even step in the woods we all make sure we have the written permission slip.Because if the GWask you better have it. They dont care really one way or another but if they can make $$ by a fine. They will