Confidence in a Shot
 

At what point do we become confident in a shot placement on a whitetail.

Just like BowhuntingFool did with his doe, if I donot seethe animal go down I stay in the tree. Even if I know Inailed it, I stay in the tree.

Is the visual of the deer going down more importantthan visual of the shot placement?

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I know whether it is a good shot or not as soon asI release my arrow. As far as seeing the deer go down, I think that is is just as important as seeing where your arrow enters the animal. I know ittakesthe question of whether or not it was a good shot, downto "I made agood shot".

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for me, being new to the game, if it aint above 60 degrees, im going to wait atleast a half hour if i KNOW i double lunged it...an hour if i can stand to sit there an hour...

if its hot and i KNOW i double lunged it i will be on the track within a half hour...

my thinking is a dead animal aint going anywhere till i tie my rope to it and pull. but if im unsure, im waiting. half hour or so, get down and read the arrow and sign i can find at the POI...then make a judgement call.

if i see it go down, i will be there shortly...

take last year for example...my left and right was dead on...i knew that. knew the deer didnt drop from a spine hit. thought i had a pass through...i about fell from the tree so i climbed down queitly and slowly and went to the POI. i was confident it was a double lung hit and id be draggin shortly. looked 5yds from the POI and theres my arrow...3-4" of shaft missing...a couple inches of blood on the arrow. i knew it was a double lunger and i got bad penetration or i hit too high and hit the spine. gave it another hour, hour and a half and started tracking. still cant belive that wasnt a double lunger. 400yds later and no beds or anything he went about his life as a live deer...not a mounted one:)

i had the confidence....but was shown otherwise...i knew the shot was a tad high because he lowered his body about to bolt....but didnt think it was THAT high.

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I took a doe saturday 8:30am at 12yrds. The shot was right on target she mule kicked and took of running very fast but i didn`t here her go down? I sat back down but not only to give the deer more time to die but as i have many other occations, sat back down only to have another deer walk up. and end up with a double. But if its late in the morning or late in the afternoon and the shot i made is good i will most of the time waitmaby 20-30min.
Absoluty not!Sometimes a gut shot deer will walk out a ways and lie down within sight.
A lot of time a deer shotperfectly through the vitils will take off running very fast and can cover a lot of ground quickly but make no mistake about its not going far;)To me a deer laying down within sight don`t mean anything unless it is maby spine shot ect..

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Funny thing is one of my worst shots ever the deer took 2 steps and died.

She moved or I missed by a foot[&:], died right there in front of me. Buck I hit perfect and knew it, but I stayed in that tree:eek:

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If I don't see it laying on the ground, I'm waiting. No matter what my brain tells me I saw. If I thought the hit was good, 1/2 hr & sneak down to check arrow. If I think the hit was bad, 1 hour and sneak down to check arrow or back out completely depending on how bad I thought the shot was. I hope I continue on the streak I have of seeing them fall.

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So seeing the animal go down is more important than seeing the shot?

If so I would have to agree

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While knowing where you hit the deer is vital to the recovery process, it can also be misleading. Usually we just don't hit them quite where we thought we did....Personally, I'm not comfortable until the recovery is made, and if I happen to see the deer fall, all the better.

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If I hunt locally.. and I know it's a good hit. I'llstay putfor 1/2 hour, then I back out, to the truck, take everything thing home, change clothes, jump on the ATV ride back sometimes with help in tow.

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Yes.

I have a tough time trying to explain to newbies, to try and see your shot placement & how the deer reacts and everything you can about the hit....but then, don't believe everything you see. [8D]

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At the 100% level, only when I find it down. Most of the time though, but not always, I am around the 75-90% level as to where I actually hit the deer. I try to keep as open of a mind as possible and let the clues, tell tales, andexperience lend a hand.

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Seeing the animal go down is by far the most important thing to see. One thing I've learned from tracking is the shooter rarely knows exactly where the shot goes, and I speak for myself as well. Too many things play tricks on the eyes so if I don't see the animal go down, I don't necessarily trust what my eyes told me. I use it as an aid but not the most important piece to the puzzle...

Example: On film, I shot a buck at 19 yards, head down, feeding, leg forward. Chip shot....I buried the pin right behind that leg forward at the top of the heart, squeezed off the shot and I SAW the arrow pass thru the boiler room. My buddy filming it filmed the buck run down the alphalpha field and it stopped. When it stopped he turned the camera on me. I questioned him, film the deer go down and he shook his head no...I'm puzzled. I grab my binos (take them, use them) and glassed the buck...no exit hole...I'm really puzzled. I know I shot him right above the heart.....or that's why my eyes said.

When playing the video in slow motion, the arrow was perfect but the deer dropped so far that the arrow went through his hide just above his spine. In real time my eyes didn't see the deer drop, my eyes only saw my yellow and white fletch disappear through his hide.

I don't trust what my eyes see at that exact moment. I trust what I see when the deer runs off and what my binos tell me.

If I don't see or hear the animal go down, I wait!

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Learned at a young age you always wait no matter how good you think the shot was, even if I see it go down. I figure if I have waited all year to hunt then wait days, weeks, months, sometimes years forthe shot I want, I can wait another hour or two to claim my reward!
I shot one slightly angling away one time aiming for the far shoulder (26 yard shot), upon recovery of him the exit hole looked as though I had shot him quartering to me, that is some serious arrow deflection off of the ribs!
Better safe than sorry!

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My story is similar to Rob/Pabower , the first really nice 8 point I shot in Pa was a 15 yard shot , his head was down his leg was forward , broadside shot , chipshot . I released the perfect arrow right where you want it behind the shoulder about 1/2 way up , using a vortex minimax 2 inch cut 2 blade broadhead , The deer hardly reacted just started walking away I watch him walk out of sight , to my disbelief ,I tell myself that deer shold have been deed in 20 seconds, I get down to find my arrow covered in blood , and a large puddle of blood next to my arrow . I call my buddy on the radio and he gets down and we begin tracking , a 1/2 mile latter I come up on the deer still alive and put a muzzy through him , dead on the spot .I check my entrance and exit holes for the first shot and they and dead perfect , Im stumped , just goes to show you sometimes things happen that are hard to explain .

My buddies kid from up there shot a nice 8 point way back quartering to shot , 3/4 of the way up , from the ground , Not what I would consider a good shot , and the deer went down within 50 yards .

Seeing them go down is an awesome sight but does not allways happen , even on perfect shots .

The buck I shot last year , I thought I missed from his reaction , a 5 yard shot , sliced his heart , no blood , very little that is for 50 yards and then , blod eveywhere deer died 70 yards from me but was out of my sight .

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Never trust your eyes in regard to shot placement. I have a couple of horror stories where I learned the hard way. If you are sure, wait half an hour, if you are unsure, you better wait several hours at lease. If it went down within sight, well get your butt over there!

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For me there is no set time I should wait till I start tracking my deer. There are far too many variables to consider and each time is different. I put a good shot on a doe last year right at sundown, I thought she would dropbut she didn't go down within sight. I wasconfident in my shot andstarted out after her in only 30min.

I did this for two reasons....One, my arrow very foamy and bubbly with lots of blood, I knew it was a double lung hit. Two, I had seen lots of coyote activity in this spot while scouting.

Sure enough when I got to my deer (about 60yds from where I shot her) she already had her tail bit off! I had got there just in time. I could hear the coyotes howling andrunning around 35-40yds awayin the pitch black of night while I field dressed her, they were not happy.:D

It all ended up good because I got my deer and the coyotes gotto snack on the organs.

If it had been a different situation where there were no coyotes in the area I would have waited as least an hour even though I was confident I'd put a good hit on her.

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If I do not see it go down or hear it crash, then I wait, back out and come back after a couple of hours. If it is dead, it will still be dead. If it is alive, then it will be dead by the time I get back.