Slicks Tricked me!!
 

After reading all of the positive talk on Slick Tricks I bought some and gave them a shot (more like 40). The design and quality seems great but I was a bit let down after seeing them 2-3inches left and 2 inches low at 20 and 30 yards. My field points hit the same hole from 10 -40 yards. Can anyone give any suggestions on why they are left and low. I shoot properly spined arrows and 100 grain mags out of a 64# Trykon xl. QAD LD drop away. Any suggestion would be appreciated.

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Broadheads will show you flaws in your tuning ie either you (torque), bow, bow-arrow combo, arrows. Have you spin tested your arrows, are they all hitting together?

How tuned is the bow? Are you shooting the proper shaft for your setup?

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This diagram may help you get the groups together:

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I would suspect a tuning issue also. The two posts above this one are rt. on in how to possibly fix things.

Dan



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If your blaming the slitck tricks, try another broadhead first and see if it impacts along with your field points. If not, then you got a tuning issue.

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Rob
The slicks are all grouping together. I have tested my arrows and they seem true. Could having straight fletching cause a problem? I don't have nearly the experience of most of you guys but its hard to swallow that super tight field point groups could be achieved with an improperly tuned bow. My low and to the left isn't on the chart I checked.
I think I overestimated my tuning abilities haha. I'm gonna have to look some better methods up in the forums. Thanks guys I appreciate the info.

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Thats a good idea. I tried some mechanicals and they were fine but i know thats another ballgame compared to tuning the fixed blades.
thanks

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i would bet tuning issue also. download Eastons tuning guide. thats where that chart came from. to bring it up, lower your nocking point. then to bring them right, move your rest slightly..cant remember what direction i always get confused on that lol. adjust EVER so slightly. hairs at a time.

make sure your spine is good before moving your rest...have someone run it on software...i never got around to buying or id do it for you.

also, offset or helical fletchings will help. your fixed heads AND straight fletchings are both trying to steer your arrow.

and yes...just because you get good tight groups where you aim with field points dont mean diddly squat with broadheads. ive had poorly spined arrows shoot great with fieldpoints. screw on fixed broadheads and go try and find that arrow in the woods. fixed broadheads magnify your errors in setup, tune, spine, form etc...i wouldnt blame the slick tricks just yet...

good luck

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I am using slicks and mine weren't hitting quite the exact same as my field tips...just as you have mentioned. I used the Easton tuning guide and did the broadhead test and using the exact chart that OGW has posted for you, was able to get both broadheads and target tips hitting perfectly. You can also download a PDF of the easton tuning guide from easton's website. Start with the tuning guide and work out some of the tuning issues you might be having...I beat you aren't quited as in tune as you may think you are. Let us know how it goes...

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Absolutely... you need to have offset or helical vanesto steer any broadhead.

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You definately need a helical fletching. I used to use a straight fletch (didnt know any better) and I never could get my broadheads to fly right. Also make sure your bow is papertuned. I was having the same problem a few weeks ago with mine hitting low and right. I papertuned again (something must have moved) and now they are all dead on even at 40 yds.

Bring on the deer!

rick

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Neither of thesestatements are true! No helical is necessary.See the chart, check your arrows, check your shooting form, shoot other types of broadheads. If the pattern countinues check your bow over for proper tuning or take to the local proshop for a check-up.

No amount of helical left or right will fix any of the above errors..

Good luck.

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Helical helps stabilize but is not necessary. Especially if you have a rest that won't accommodate a helical fletch. If the field points are grouping together and the slick tricks are grouping together at a different point of impact, its a tuning issue. Easton's Tuning Guide should help. There's a great graphic that tells you what adjustments should be made depending on where the BH's are hitting in relation to the field points. Also, there's a sticky on that "other forum" (caugh, AT) in the hunting section where a guy described how he brought his field tips and BH's together step by step.

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[/align]Wow Ogw that is a great chart.

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I didnt mean a helical fletch would fix other tuning errors. It is just a piece of the puzzle.

rick

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110% AGREE

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Try another type BH. If it is still shooting off, it's the bow tuning. I found I like Crimson Talon XT's better than any slicktricks or muzzysfor flightand devestatingdamage.

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[/align]I would say it is a tuning problem as well . You don't need a helical to shoot broad heads . follow eastons tuning guide and retry

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My guess , fletching contact , qads are known for this . Heilical and offset fletch help by creating more drag on the back of your arrow , but some archers get by without it , its not totaly necesary , but helps by giving a "forgiving " arrow

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Nice chart OGW. As long the BHs are grouping that should should solve the problem. I started shooting my BHs in the middle of the summer. Seeing the feildpoints fly one would have thought my bow was tuned perfect. The Broadheads told a diffrent story. I cant rember if they were low, high, right, or left. But using the chart will fix your problem. I'm no bow expert but it is my understanding that if your low and left you need move your rest up or you nocking point down, and the rest moved to the right.

90% of the time I dont hunt with fix bladed heads but I found that STs and Montecs are true fying a heads. After paper tuning and walk back tuning I use a fixed bladed head to fine tune.

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I agree with those who suggested helical fletching. IF YOUR BOW IS TUNED, and you still have the problem you experienced, oftentimes the helical fletching will bring the arrows to where you want them. I had the IDENTICAL problem a few years ago using straight 4" fletching. When I switched to 5" helicals, my BH groups jumped right to the same place as my FP.