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Washington Hunter 09-03-2007 08:30 PM

To all potential customers;
 
When someone working on your bow says "Hold on, don't let down," please, don't press the trigger of your release.

Working on a bow forcustomer today, I wanted him to shoot the bow before leaving. I handed him an arrow, he shot it fine. I handed him a second arrow and it was too short. He drew back and it fell off the rest.

No big deal; "Hold on, don't let down. I'll grab that for you."

As I pull the arrow off the string something happens and I'm seeing an arrow hit the concrete wall next to us and my wrist is killing me. The customer had accidentally hit his trigger and dry fired his bow; on my wrist.

Fortunately my wrist absorbed the majority of the impact and it didn't hurt his bow.

So, a couple reminders;

1.) If someone working on your bow says something, please pay attention.
2.) Keep your fingerbehind the trigger.
3.) If for some reason you're in a situation where you dry fire your bow on someone's wrist, say something more than just "Oh man, did I getcha?"

HammytheHunter 09-03-2007 08:36 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Ouch! Sorry to hear about that WH. Hope the wrist heels up quick and doesn't affect your shooting/hunting.

bigaggie77 09-03-2007 08:36 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
you did well not punching the fool...

RDHunter 09-03-2007 08:37 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Are you going to be ok ?, I hope it didn't do any major damage to your wrist.
I know that had to hurt , I'm really sorry to hear that it happened to you.

Buck_Slayer 09-03-2007 08:39 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
How did he end up with an arrow that was too short in the first place?

hardcorehunter 09-03-2007 08:40 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!! I don't trust anyone to put my hand near their drawn bow. Glad you wern't maimed.

Bullet Hole Bailey 09-03-2007 08:44 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
OOOOOUUUUCCCCHHHHH!!!!!!!

Hope it heals up quick

i woulda freaked out and prolly thrown the guys bow down the range.

GMMAT 09-03-2007 08:45 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

How did he end up with an arrow that was too short in the first place?
That's a fair question.

Sorry it happened.....but I can't imagine my shop owner's hands anywhere near someone's bow at full draw that he don't trust an AWFUL lot. Kinda sounds like putting the ball back on the tee when the guy's at the top of his backswing.

Glad you're OK.

Washington Hunter 09-03-2007 08:51 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
The arrow being too short is understandable (at least on my end). We've got tubes attached to the wall of our range with several different lengths of several different brands of arrows. We use these to tune people's bows [who don't provide their own] or for people to test bows with. The arrows aren't marked, but put back into their respective tubes.

This particular arrow happened to have been placed in the incorrect tube.

As far as having my hand near someone's bow at full draw, it happens all the time. I adjust as last three peeps a day while customers are at full draw. I trust them enough to have the common sense to keep their finger behind the trigger.

I wasn't hurt too bad. After the customer left I grabbed a bow from the shelf and went and shot it to make sure I could still shoot mine. Nothing major, just a bruiser wrist and a scraped knuckle.

robbcayman 09-03-2007 08:53 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
This is why I got rid of the drop away!!![:'(] Go to the WB and this wouldn't even be an issue. I'm very glad you weren't hurt.

GMMAT 09-03-2007 08:54 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Do you guys not utilize one of those releases that won't allow the archer to trigger an actual release? We have one of those at our shop (it's blue).

The guys at my shop still make me use this when they're adjusting ANYTHING on my bow.

Washington Hunter 09-03-2007 08:56 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Corporate won't/hasn't sent us one, Jeff. We're stuck using an actual release.

You'd be suprised the things we can't get.

Robb, the rest I had just put on this guy's bow was a WB.

twildasin 09-03-2007 08:56 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
well my question exactly why did he have an arrow too short? And why did'nt you tell him to just let down instead of putting your hand in there? Anyhow hope you heal fast. Good luck and let there be a lesson learned there!

GMMAT 09-03-2007 08:59 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Dan:

I'd look up the "release" I mention and order one, MYSELF.....lol.

my7pointmonster 09-03-2007 09:02 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
sounds to me you handled that better than i would have, i would have punched the kid in the mouth
maybe im a bad person for doing so but jeeze..

ryan.

Washington Hunter 09-03-2007 09:03 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
I may just do that after today, Jeff.

What company makes it?

GMMAT 09-03-2007 09:08 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Not sure, Dan.....but I can find out for you (tomorrow). I'll ask Greg.

I can't imagine it being very expensive.

deerdust 09-03-2007 09:47 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Glad you are ok Dan. You the man, saving his bow from the dry fire by sacrificing your wrist..[&:]

RuttNutt 09-03-2007 10:17 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
wow.............I would have kept this story to myself....I would say your just as much to blame as the customer. Just think of the lawsuit you would have had if the arrow would have went through the customers hand.... You would probably have some free time for job hunting....

footballplaya 09-03-2007 10:33 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
HAHA i know it's wrong to laugh but i bet that hurt like a biotch!! I hope ya get better man, and also hope it didn't do any damage to your wrist. In all seriousness, you REALLY may want to get that checked out by a physician(or you could be macho, like most of us guys) just in case. I'm not sure I'd trust someone either. And let me tell you one thing I learned very early in my career, don't trust ANYONE to have common sense. The fact that people are killed every day by "unloaded" guns than loaded guns proves my point very easily.

Snakebite101 09-03-2007 11:03 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
I"ll take your place in the contest iffin ya can't shoot.
Damn Brother that does smart.Same thing happend to me last year.

Plus One 09-04-2007 04:48 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
I think we should give Dan an award of some type here... not only is he a fanatic about not dry firing his bow, but when he sees someone else about to it he willingly sacrificed his wrist to savehis bow... I think we all have a lot to learn from Dan's example here...

j/k, hope it heals quick Dan.

ken

robbcayman 09-04-2007 11:30 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Corporate won't/hasn't sent us one, Jeff. We're stuck using an actual release.

You'd be suprised the things we can't get.

Robb, the rest I had just put on this guy's bow was a WB.
Seriously?? I have never once had an arrow fall out of my WB. Either way I'm glad you are okay. I would think twice if I were you before trusting anyone again.

MN/Kyle 09-04-2007 11:40 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: robbcayma


Seriously?? I have never once had an arrow fall out of my WB. Either way I'm glad you are okay. I would think twice if I were you before trusting anyone again.
I'm sure it was so short it went right past the hole.

"Did i getcha"...lmao...here's your sign.

GMMAT 09-04-2007 11:41 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Dan:

That release is made by True-Fire. It's called a "No-Fire", appropriately.

BowHuntingFool 09-04-2007 11:45 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 


ORIGINAL: RuttNutt

wow.............I would have kept this story to myself....I would say your just as much to blame as the customer. Just think of the lawsuit you would have had if the arrow would have went through the customers hand.... You would probably have some free time for job hunting....
I was thinking the same thing!:eek: I hope a lesson learned on both ends!!!!!!!! Any way glad that neither of you got seriously hurt!!!!:)

robbcayman 09-04-2007 11:57 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: outdoormafiaKP


ORIGINAL: robbcayma


Seriously?? I have never once had an arrow fall out of my WB. Either way I'm glad you are okay. I would think twice if I were you before trusting anyone again.
I'm sure it was so short it went right past the hole.

"Did i getcha"...lmao...here's your sign.
LOL!!!! Yeah, I forget about the arrow being too short. Sign taken and accepted :D:D

nchawkeye 09-04-2007 12:15 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Another reason to shoot fingers...:D

GR8atta2d 09-04-2007 12:22 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool


ORIGINAL: RuttNutt

wow.............I would have kept this story to myself....I would say your just as much to blame as the customer.
I was thinking the same thing!:eek: I hope a lesson learned on both ends!!!!!!!! Any way glad that neither of you got seriously hurt!!!!:)
Dan, I know your careful and customer oriented. Your knowledge is why people come to you and many probably ask for you by name. The difference is in the details. Make sure in the future you don't put yourself, others and the Stores good name in jeopardy by trusting someone else to put arrows in the correct bin.

Imagine if that happend to someone on here..the post would likely be titled Pro-Shops (??)error makes me dry fire bow!

Go the extra step and make sure everything is right before placing anything in the Customers Hand..Not flaming, just some words of wisdom.

WARedBear 09-04-2007 12:36 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Hey Dan,
What bow shop are you at?

Reid

Sliverflicker 09-04-2007 12:43 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Glad you didn't get hurt Dan, them short arrows and trigger happy bowhunters can be a mother, Did you ask the Boss about hazord duty pay?

Washington Hunter 09-05-2007 09:50 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Gr8, I appreciate the post. I went through after all was said and done and made sure each arrow was marked at its correct length. No messing up like that again.

Reid, I'm in Sportsman's Warehouse. Spokane, not CDA.

Sliver, I thought about taking the rest of the day off, but I was getting holiday pay. 12 hours at time and a half? I can deal with a sore wrist!

Jeff, I'll be looking into getting the store one. Even if it's got to come out of my pocket, it wil benefit the store and the customers who frequent it. Thanks for the information.

Rick James 09-05-2007 09:57 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Dan:

That release is made by True-Fire. It's called a "No-Fire", appropriately.
We have at least a half dozen of these hanging out in the shop and we use them all the time. You TRU Fire rep may even send you guys one for free to use. Last time someone didn't end up using one of these........lol.......we ended up with a new hole in the Technohunt screen. Glad I wasn't responsible for that one.......lol.

Finch 09-05-2007 10:20 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
I would probably start informing customers to put their finger "behind" the trigger. It would be nice to assume that they would but everyone isn't as smart as you and I.

Just curious, does Sportsman's Warehouse have some sort of training program for their archery tech's? I've learned quite a few things over the years (especially this year) but I'm just wondering if they have decent training.

We have one coming to our area in a couple months and I was thinking about getting a job there part time, if my main job would allow.

SwampCollie 09-05-2007 10:30 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter


As far as having my hand near someone's bow at full draw, it happens all the time. I adjust as last three peeps a day while customers are at full draw. I trust them enough to have the common sense to keep their finger behind the trigger.
Haha... no way bro. I don't trust anyone with anything when it comes to bows or guns. I've had too many close calls so similar to the one you just had to trust anyone unless they have a "no-release" on. Any gun that comes in is loaded unless the action is open and/or bolt removed. Anyone at any time could potentially loose and arrow that could really hurt or kill you. Play by those rules, all the while being cool about it and just genuinely safety conscious, and you'll never have an issue.


I wasn't hurt too bad. After the customer left I grabbed a bow from the shelf and went and shot it to make sure I could still shoot mine. Nothing major, just a bruiser wrist and a scraped knuckle.
And it could have just as easily been an arrow through your hand or arm. Glad you came out alright. Just remember not to trust anyone.

SwampCollie 09-05-2007 10:35 AM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

The arrow being too short is understandable (at least on my end). We've got tubes attached to the wall of our range with several different lengths of several different brands of arrows. We use these to tune people's bows [who don't provide their own] or for people to test bows with. The arrows aren't marked, but put back into their respective tubes.

This particular arrow happened to have been placed in the incorrect tube.

Dan;

Here is a tip to keep that from happening again. I did this at my shop as well, and it has proven totally effective.

Those arrows, as you listed, are easy to confuse length wise. So what I do is take a narrow pointed sharpie pen and write the total length on one of the hen feathers. On the other, I write the total weight, with tip, as we usually leave the field points in place. That way anyone wanted to check speed, but who does not for whatever reason have an arrow can find one that is relatively close to his/her arrow weight. And it keeps everybody safe.

Just a thought. ;)

snake123 09-05-2007 10:19 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: robbcayman

This is why I got rid of the drop away!!![:'(] Go to the WB and this wouldn't even be an issue. I'm very glad you weren't hurt.
True, you'll just have to deal with a noisy release when the fletches clear the rest

Dr Andy 09-05-2007 11:09 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

Gr8, I appreciate the post. I went through after all was said and done and made sure each arrow was marked at its correct length. No messing up like that again.

Reid, I'm in Sportsman's Warehouse. Spokane, not CDA.

Sliver, I thought about taking the rest of the day off, but I was getting holiday pay. 12 hours at time and a half? I can deal with a sore wrist!

Jeff, I'll be looking into getting the store one. Even if it's got to come out of my pocket, it wil benefit the store and the customers who frequent it. Thanks for the information.
Get that no-fire from tru-ball, I've never been in ashopthat didn't have one, at least around here. You can "trust" your friends but not strangers!

Spoiler 09-05-2007 11:17 PM

RE: To all potential customers;
 
Well Dan I guess you quate from T.S Elliot proves correct.:D


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