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Nefarious12 09-03-2007 07:21 PM

Hunting fenced in animals
 
Does anyone think it is ethical to hunt fenced in animals.. I know there are places you can pay to hunt animals that are stocked in a fenced in area. I know Pa has a place on the susquehanna river that is an 80 acer islandand they will stock rams, hogs, and other animals then put drives on for you untill you get them... I also heard that they have a 3 acer whitetail hunt that is fenced in... After all this Mike Vick stuff I can see this type of hunting being outlawed... any opinions??? I know I would never pay money to hunt like that... I don't even consider that hunting...

twildasin 09-03-2007 07:23 PM

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I believe the guy that runs that show down by the river use to be a game warden. What a joke I would never pay to shoot an animal in a fence!!

Nefarious12 09-03-2007 07:24 PM

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right... i'm all about fair chase

Beezer 09-03-2007 07:25 PM

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There's one about an hour from our house. Whenever we pass it I always look at the big racks they have over the gates and think to myself what a joke the place must be.

jsay 09-03-2007 07:25 PM

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I would never shoot an animal in high fence either. I personally am all for Fair Chase.

WesternMdHardwoods 09-03-2007 07:25 PM

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Haha NO!! The only way I see it etchical is with the handicapped>?

hardcorehunter 09-03-2007 07:27 PM

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Doesn't interest me, although it depends on the fence area acreage wise. If you want to hunt Africa, 90% of the hunts that I have checked into, are all high fence. It may be a 12,000 acre compound, but it is still high fence. You will never see the fence and would never know there was one thereunless you asked the question. The owners deal in Kudus, wildebeast, impalas, etc, like a rancher here deals in cattle. So I guess it all matters on the acres involved.

Rob/PA Bowyer 09-03-2007 07:28 PM

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(I've never been the first one to get to do this in a thread)

gamespooker 09-03-2007 07:31 PM

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i might shoot em with a camera, i couldn't sleep at night if i killed em

nefarious11 09-03-2007 07:32 PM

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I think fenced in hunts are a great idea for the right people. If you are able and all together there i dont think you should be hunting in a fence, but if you have a handicap of any sort i think it is totally logical. just my opinion

Fieldmouse 09-03-2007 07:36 PM

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I have absolutely no problem with it. Those animals were bred to be targets. Someone out there has decided to earn a living by giving these animals a purpose in life, feeding them well, and yes selling them. I guess we won't see them on the endanger species list any time soon. I would suggest not hunting them if you don't want to and/or pay the money. I personally won't pay the money.

Nefarious12 09-03-2007 07:40 PM

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I dont think it is ethical for anyone... there already is spots for handicaps to hunt... handicaps can also hunt with crossbows. pa game commission even lets handicaps use 4 wheelers on trails in stategame lands...

GMMAT 09-03-2007 07:41 PM

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I've turned down a chance to do this......but I see no problems with it. It is what it is.



WesternMdHardwoods 09-03-2007 07:42 PM

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Now I think its safe to do this!!

isatarak 09-03-2007 07:44 PM

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I guess it's legal, so it's to each his own. Personally I find it distasteful.

The cost alone would be enough to keep me away.

Nefarious12 09-03-2007 07:45 PM

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It kinda pisses me off when people say they shot these big bucks and are showing them off... when "most" of the rest of us are stuck with smaller ones on state game lands... cuz it takes no skill and they will act all cocky about it in most cases

Nefarious12 09-03-2007 07:46 PM

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I think it should be outlawed

Bloodsaw 09-03-2007 07:57 PM

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First of all not all high fenced hunting is a walk in the park, the high fence areas with ALOT of land fenced in is about the same as no fence at all....SECOND saying high fenced hunts are great for the right people, meaning handicap people, is BS to me, yep its harder for them to get out there but i think its degrading to say they need to go hunt high fence to get a deer, or good deer, now if its someones last wish and they are on their death bed, thats a whole different story, sure, put them on a easy deer that will fill there dreams...

Nefarious12 09-03-2007 08:03 PM

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good points.. like make a wish

WesternMdHardwoods 09-03-2007 08:08 PM

RE: Hunting fenced in animals
 
high fenced hunts are great for the right people, meaning handicap people, isBS to me, yep its harder for them to get out there but i think its degrading to say they need to go hunt high fence to get a deer, or good deer,

Ummmm but I will take the words straight from your mouth on this one "Not all high fenced hunting is a walk in the park"?



bassman417 09-03-2007 08:18 PM

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Most of the high fence hunts buy their deer from deer farmers. As deer farmers my family wont sell to anyone but other deer farmers, however a good friend of ours and fellow deer farmer does sell to high fence.SOME of thedeer that the high fence buy are in contact with people daily from the day their born until theyre 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 yrs old. In that amount of time they no longer associate humans with danger. When were just outside the deer remain bedded, but as soon as we enter the gate (which isnt always feeding time) the deer whether they see us or just smell us come in to take a look and walk right up to you. Im sure this is the same on other deer farms. Even a friend of mine that had never been to our house walked in the pen and the deer surrounded him sniffing him and licking him. If these are the type of deer that the high fence areas use, which most of them do because they want quality deer and want to see what their clientel are paying for, then I dont consider it hunting. Its about like "hunting" the family dog. Some deer on thehigh fenceare wild, some are not:(. On free range, their all wild and elusive, and thats HUNTING.

mahoningbuck 09-03-2007 08:37 PM

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Rediculous......

badger109 09-03-2007 08:43 PM

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Ethical? I guess. I mean they are just like livestock. They're well fead and cared for. Fair? Not at all.

I think big fenced in ranches that block migration routes are unethical. Fenced in ranches in Texas or somewhere, where they use fences to control population, Ok I guess i might do it, but I wouldn't pay a dime for it. But deer from deer farms I would never even consider.

BowHuntingFool 09-03-2007 08:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Doesn't interest me, although it depends on the fence area acreage wise. If you want to hunt Africa, 90% of the hunts that I have checked into, are all high fence. It may be a 12,000 acre compound, but it is still high fence. You will never see the fence and would never know there was one there unless you asked the question. The owners deal in Kudus, wildebeast, impalas, etc, like a rancher here deals in cattle. So I guess it all matters on the acres involved.
Thats why I went to Namibia, no high fences, or a least not nearly as many as in South Africa proper!! Almost every hunt I looked into in SA was High Fenced, it wasn't for me, Namibia was for me! 60,000 acres of no fences!

flyinfeathers 09-03-2007 08:58 PM

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In my opinion....it shouldn't be called high fence "hunting". It should be aptly named high fence "shooting".

There is no hunting involved when the animals are caged. I don't care how many acres are involved.

footballplaya 09-03-2007 10:57 PM

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Well, it's legal. I guess it's ethical if they make ethical shots and kill the deer cleanly. Fair? Not in the context most of us put it in. You know what I mean, a bunch of deer on just a few acres of land. I guess if that's their cup of tea, go ahead. But if you brag about it to me I'll call you on it. I think it should be illegal for joe blow to shoot a huge deer on a farm and then acts like it was a "hard hunt" or something. it's about as ethical as bodybuilders getting on steroids and claiming to be "natural" as the next guy, BS.

wiranger 09-04-2007 01:23 AM

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Thestatements about the "handicapped"are pure BS. I took care of a gentleman in our ICU who was a paraplegic from falling out of a treestand. He not only still hunts, but helps maintain 200 acres owned by himself and his brother. He has taken a deer every year, and some nice bucks at that. Capitalism creates lots of ugly industries, and this is just one. To each his own,just make sure totake pride in your own accomplishments. Good luck this year!!

bigtim6656 09-04-2007 05:34 AM

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if it was a large are say 100 acres i would but any thing less not me

iowabob85 09-04-2007 05:36 AM

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High fenced hunts[:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(]. NUFF said.

NCRemington700 09-04-2007 06:33 AM

RE: Hunting fenced in animals
 
What if we're talking about 60,000 acres?? Say like aranch in Texas?

bigaggie77 09-04-2007 07:17 AM

RE: Hunting fenced in animals
 
Thats just it.........

I've always heard that an average deer's "HOME" range is 5 square miles. 1 square mile is = 640 acres.

If you are paying to hunt a 5,000 to 10,000 acre ranch, then I don't think the fence has anything to do with the deer being on the land. Notice I said "fence" not high fenced.

"Canned" hunts to me are the high fence one's that only have 100 acre's or less.

spudrow 09-04-2007 07:47 AM

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I have hunted hogs in these types of places and let me tell you it was not a walk in the park for them.It was a tough walk and stalk hunt, no feeders were used, and I was glad.All the other animals to me seemed some what tame and I would never pay to hunt one of them, deer, elk, ram, etc.
Just my 2 cents.


Spudrow from Mo

PS. Although like I said it was a tough walk and stalk hunt, I would not do it again.Too many free places to hunt hogs in this country.


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