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peakrut 08-30-2007 12:22 AM

Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
My part of the country seems to be Nov3-8 for peak which makes sense because by the time I head to northern Wi a week or so later is seems to be done.
Their are some exceptions where it does run late.
Dates are towards the bottom of the page for each state.
See if you concur?

http://www.trmichels.com/RutDates.htm

huntnma 08-30-2007 03:06 AM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
no disrespect to him, but he's soooo wrong about central florida....our rut is long over by jan. like he states...i would go with others experiences before i would go with this chart, at least for Florida.....

Dr Andy 08-30-2007 06:55 AM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
Tony the dates you listed seem to me more like pre-rut. The past years it seems the peak of the rut was around the 11th of nov. lasting about a week.

Rob/PA Bowyer 08-30-2007 07:33 AM

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Notice what he had down for PA:
Pennsylvania * Sept 9-Dec 23 Oct 16-Dec 16 Alt 2002


Now, that was taken from Alt in 2002....not updated and imagine...too many does and I would believe that then. The peak rut in PA is always the 15th of Nov give or take a few days. The chase phase will always be following the full moon around Halloween....it never changes but a day or two depending on weather.

GMMAT 08-30-2007 07:36 AM

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Unless you take into consideration herd dynamics.....I wouldn't put too much emphasis on that chart.

just my opinion.

GregH 08-30-2007 08:45 AM

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I did not read the article. The peak of the rut depends on what your definition of peak of the rut is.

To me, the peak of the rut is the peak breeding day(s) when the most does are bred. Where I hunt, the most breeding (peak) takes place from Nov. 17th - Nov. 23rd, give or take a couple of days. If you were to graph the breeding dates of the does in your area you'd have an irregular shaped bell curve with the top (peak) coinciding with these dates.

From my experience, the most rutting activity (chasing, tending and seeking), takes place before the peak breeding dates. This is the best hunting IMO. This usually happens in my areas between Nov. 4th - Nov. 12th.

Do not confuse the most activity with the peak breeding dates as when the most does are being bred usually means less activity seen by hunters.

So, is your definition for peak of the rut...

a) Most activity
or
b) Peak breeding dates

Never give up though, because you never know when you'll catch a real dandy between does when he's searching for another one.

I have a theory that in the early part of Nov., the real strong 3 1/2s and 4 1/2s are most visible chasing and seeking does. Sometimes before they are ready. It seems that the real monsters just hang back a bit and let these youngsters tire themselves out, while they wait untile the does are ready, then they come out and take the does from the younger guys with less effort. I usually do not see the truly huge bucks until mid-Nov. and later. Just my observations.

_Dan 08-30-2007 09:06 AM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
GregH, that's gospel. The dates you give are completely accurate from what I had seen when I hunted in WI in the past. Now.....up here in Canada I would say add one week to those dates.

Here the NR season ends November 15th....its usually around the 8th or 10th that the chase phase really kicks in. By the time things are in really high gear here, I can't hunt anymore.

peakrut 08-30-2007 01:14 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
GregH,

While ive been hunting up here in Wi I admit have not seen them breeding.
But when I lived in IL on Temple's land I always seen them breeding like crazy just right around Halloween. I was never able to hunt there but they allowed me to pretty much go where I wanted.
As for most activity usually last week of Oct and First week of Nov
here in K area.

Pupuchito 08-30-2007 01:26 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
Hi huntnma,
New here. Was wondering what dates you think are the rut in central fl.
Thanks in advance,
Steve

gplant 08-30-2007 01:42 PM

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From whatI have seen its normally last week in Oct first 2 weeks in Nov. Mich Thumb.

Germ 08-30-2007 01:45 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
http://www.trmichels.com/RutDates.htm

trmichels, LMAO

I do not put squat into what this guys says;)


GregH 08-30-2007 01:45 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 

ORIGINAL: _Dan

Here the NR season ends November 15th....its usually around the 8th or 10th that the chase phase really kicks in. By the time things are in really high gear here, I can't hunt anymore.

You'll be tagged out by then and then you can try for another in Wis.;)

gplant 08-30-2007 01:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Germ

http://www.trmichels.com/RutDates.htm

trmichels, LMAO

I do not put squat into what this guys says;)

I AGREE !!!!!

GregH 08-30-2007 01:51 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 

ORIGINAL: FRALEY

GregH,

While ive been hunting up here in Wi I admit have not seen them breeding.
But when I lived in IL on Temple's land I always seen them breeding like crazy just right around Halloween. I was never able to hunt there but they allowed me to pretty much go where I wanted.
As for most activity usually last week of Oct and First week of Nov
here in K area.

That's the land I'm talking about.

Remember, the breeding cycle is a bell curve. The older does seem to come into esterus first and then it ramps up into a full scale breeding period with all the prime age does. Then it trickles down and finishes off with the breeding of the fawns. Especially the early born fawns from the older does.

The most activity is not the peak of the breeding. That's the phase (pre-breeding) that leads to the peak breeding period.

peakrut 08-30-2007 02:04 PM

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Ahh very valid point.


peakrut 08-30-2007 02:04 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
Heck I didnt know their were mature deer in MI?;)
You got the last one.

Mornin Pumpkin

Germ 08-30-2007 02:04 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
What Greg is talking about here is spot on.

Why in MI a lot of ar mature deer fall during gun season. Nov 15th-30th

Germ 08-30-2007 02:07 PM

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Ahhh I am complete

We grow a few here, LOL

peakrut 08-30-2007 02:09 PM

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MORNING PUMPKIN!

gplant 08-30-2007 02:10 PM

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But We got some bad a$$ spikes here in Mich.

lars 08-30-2007 02:15 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 
Interesting that here in WIsconsin it always ends up being from Nov. 5th - 14th?? It really does not change much from year to year.

_Dan 08-30-2007 02:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: GregH


ORIGINAL: _Dan

Here the NR season ends November 15th....its usually around the 8th or 10th that the chase phase really kicks in. By the time things are in really high gear here, I can't hunt anymore.

You'll be tagged out by then and then you can try for another in Wis.;)
You're right.....you draggin' him out for me?

Germ 08-30-2007 02:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: _Dan


ORIGINAL: GregH


ORIGINAL: _Dan

Here the NR season ends November 15th....its usually around the 8th or 10th that the chase phase really kicks in. By the time things are in really high gear here, I can't hunt anymore.

You'll be tagged out by then and then you can try for another in Wis.;)
You're right.....you draggin' him out for me?
Not that i have seen and met Gregh, he is not in the best of shape. Better bring a 4 wheeler if the drag is more than 20 yds

huntnma 08-31-2007 06:46 PM

RE: Interesting rut info/data and dates.
 

ORIGINAL: Pupuchito

Hi huntnma,
New here. Was wondering what dates you think are the rut in central fl.
Thanks in advance,
Steve
The timing of rut differs by region within the state of Florida and may also differ from one year to the next within the same region. Usually it's in Oct., but i have seen rutting bucks in Sept....I would continue to ask other florida hunters to see what they think as well.....Over in Polk county, i hear it's Dec.

3stone 08-31-2007 08:50 PM

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During opening weekend of gun season in Wisconsin last year I saw two different bcuks chasing two different does wiht there noses low to the ground. Then I saw a group of six bucks chasing two does and harrassing them quite a bit. I ended up taking one of the six bucks with my Savage 7 mm but that was the 18th and 19th of Novemebr. That seemed really late for the chasing phase of the rut to be in full bloom.


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