Hoytail Hunter

Hey atlas,

You ever consider any type of competitive sports? I think you'd be great at dodgeball. If you don't get it, read my "it's that simple" post above. It (buying import), all started somewhere man.

5am now and I'm leaving my loved ones before sun-up and in a few months wil be coming home after sun-down so I'll have enough money to pay the "American" Mortgage company of my choice and the "import" truck manufacturer of my choice.

Quality sells. Everything else is just a creative dance of denial around the truth.

atlasman

This has to be one of the lamest rationalizations ever. I (and everyone in my family) have owned nothing but American vehicles my whole life. Not even one time did any of us have what would be considered "a lemon" or a car in need of constant repair.

My Sierra is under full warranty for 6 years 80,000 miles........Ive had it 4 years and used it once.

This illusion that all American cars are junk and foreign cars last forever is ludicrous..............pure urban legend.

EVERY Datsun, Nissan and Toyota that was made in the 70's-80's turned into a massive rust bucket............the beds on Nissan/Datsun trucks were famous for practically rusting right off.............Why?? Because they used cheap steel to make their vehicles more affordable. Everyone seems to conveniently forget that though. If one of the Big 3 had that problem they would still be getting crucified for it.


If foreign cars are SOOOOOOO reliable and last SOOOOOOOO long........how come our streets aren't littered with 20-30 year old foreign cars??

Weird.

Browning_1

I've owned them all and nothing has come close tomy Titan.

atlasman

Don't flatter yourself........your post and/or logic isn't even worth dodging.......it's just lame.


Boo Hoo...........lots of people work long hours to support a family...........back stabbing your neighbors is not mandatory because you have to go to work.



More like jealousy, envy, and spite................but your words sound more noble

Browning_1

A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (General Motors decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River . Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.
On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.
The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action. Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.
Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion. They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.
Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager. They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.
The next year the Japanese won by two miles.
Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India .

Sad, but oh so true . Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US, claiming they can't make money paying American wages. Toyota has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US
The last quarter's results:
Toyota makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses. Ford folks are still scratching their heads.

GMMAT

I won't go so far as to say they're "junk". We do things on a business model, here, though.

Cost of procurement + cost of maintenace (over a period of time) offset by cost of re-sale.

I don't like the big three's chances in that equation.Note there is NOWHERE in my business equation for "emotion". I didn't stab anyone in the back. I made a business decision.

I have a GMC Yukon and a Chrysler (Jeep Wrangler) that "I" own. Honestly....I paid $24K for the (list) $46K Yukon when it was a year old 2003 (35Kmi.). I paid $1K for the 2003 Jeep, this year (48Kmi.). If I had to pay reatial (or close) for them....I'd have researched a similar model to the business example.

People don't like it whenothers tell them whatdeer to shoot.....but it's OK to tell someone else what they shoud buy with THEIR money???

Twisted isthe word that comes to mind.

BowHuntingFool

WOW that was a shot, so your saying he should not be patriotic???

BowHuntingFool

Well put!!!!!!!!

GMMAT

Nope. I'm saying no one should question someone else's.

Germ

BHF

GMMAT is correct i had no right to post what I did, and how I said it.

It was mean and childish on my part.