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LouisianaTomkat 08-20-2007 03:17 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat

No, my friend, the chemical smell, to you, is dirt. But the "fact" that deer can break down scents to so many parts per million more than you, let's me know that they probably can smell way more in that "compound than you can. Are you having trouble following that?

You need to prove that to me.........and since you said "probably" I already know you can't ;)


Here ended the lesson.
Oh so now atlas has a better sniffer than the deer. Next you will be telling me you can see better too. If anyone needs to prove to you that deer can smell even 10 times better than you, you have a serious malfunction of the old cerebral cortex my friend.

Oh and by the way, there never was a lesson. You read that on your own.

LT

BigJ71 08-20-2007 03:57 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

I'd like to add a point in regards to the carbon that the military is using.
In a few of the military articles I came across, a reference was made to the amount of carbon being used. The military uses much more carbon than you would find in a SL suit. I remember a thickness of 1/4" being referenced.
The military uses carbon to keep chemical warefare agents "OUT" and is not trying to adsorb an odor from within. The uses are of an obvious difference. As such, I would think the re-activation process necessary would be dramatically different. Logic would dictate that it takes alot more heat/regeneration processes to work on a 1/4" of carbon than a thin layer that is in SL. That being said, keep in mind that SL is not trying to adsorb a deadly chemical agent..... Unless you ate suicide wings the night before.
I understand the purpose of the carbon suits the military uses........the concept is the same and the main ingredient is as well, activated carbon. The re-activation/re-generation process is also the same, so is the rate of absorption (all things being equal) and so is the fact that once absorbed it stops functioning as it should (this is the problem the military is trying to deal with).

Again, I never said the scent blocking suits don't absorb scent, they do....But what happens once they are full? I have yet so see scientific proof that they can be re-activated/re-generated (same thing) in a home dryer ENOUGH to be useful again.

Until then, I'm not buying it.

archer58 08-20-2007 04:21 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: BigJ12

Again, I never said the scent blocking suits don't absorb scent, they do....But what happens once they are full? I have yet so see scientific proof that they can be re-activated/re-generated (same thing) in a home dryer ENOUGH to be useful again.

Until then, I'm not buying it.
This is the exact issue thatthe labtesting addressed. Is it not scientific enough?

archer58 08-20-2007 04:24 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
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pa_yote_hunter 08-20-2007 05:00 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
I am one of those guys that if i had the money to just throw into a scen-lok/blocker suit i probably would just because i would feel that i had an edge. Will i buy one now.....not in the near future. Like i said if i had the money to burn i would....but i would not rely 100% on that alone.

cet 08-20-2007 06:39 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Absolutely NOT. It is overrated and I myself have shot more deer without it than with it. For one, it is way OVERPRICED. Remember, majority of guys on TV get it for FREE and it is normally a sponsor. Save your money and invest it in your equipment such as a good bow/broadheads/etc. As long as you wash them with scent free soap OR even baking soda and keep them in a plastic tub; get dressed in the field and still hunt the wind you do not need scent lock ..IF you have it you STILL need to hunt the wind. Dont get caught up EVERY thing that is brought to the market place.

atlasman 08-20-2007 06:43 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: archer58

I'd like to add a point in regards to the carbon that the military is using.
In a few of the military articles I came across, a reference was made to the amount of carbon being used. The military uses much more carbon than you would find in a SL suit. I remember a thickness of 1/4" being referenced.
The military uses carbon to keep chemical warefare agents "OUT" and is not trying to adsorb an odor from within. The uses are of an obvious difference. As such, I would think the re-activation process necessary would be dramatically different. Logic would dictate that it takes alot more heat/regeneration processes to work on a 1/4" of carbon than a thin layer that is in SL. That being said, keep in mind that SL is not trying to adsorb a deadly chemical agent..... Unless you ate suicide wings the night before.

Perfect example of what I meant when I said you just don't understand.

atlasman 08-20-2007 06:47 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat

Oh so now atlas has a better sniffer than the deer.

Not even close to what I said..........you need to read slower.



If anyone needs to prove to you that deer can smell even 10 times better than you, you have a serious malfunction of the old cerebral cortex my friend.
See above...........figure it out and get back to me.



Oh and by the way, there never was a lesson. You read that on your own.

LT
Man, you are clueless.

nvshooter 08-20-2007 07:48 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 
Well first off I would like to know how to import an emoticon. There is another site that I visit regularly that has a smiley head with a stick in it's hand beating a horse that is laying on the ground. Pretty funny actually.

Now to relate two first hand experiences:

First on how important the wind is..... i was on a hog hunt in Brady, TXsitting in a ground blind fashioned out of tree limbs that formedthe blind on two sides, a tree(read tall bush...remember it is texas) formed the third side. It was roughly 80+ degrees out and high humidity, with an occasional breeze. I had a doe walk out of the trees from upwind, to within 10 ft of me. She passed right in front of my blind, so close i was tempted to touch her. She then stood looking at the feeder that i was hunting for a good 5 minutes. The wind was gently blowing but in the right direction. Once the wind changed and she got a whiff of me you would have swore thatI stuck her with a hot poker, she must have jumped 10 ft in the air and hauled a$$.

Second topic is about my experience with the chemical suits that the military uses. Up until 2-3 years ago the suits that the military used were only good for less than 24 hrs once they had been removed from thier sealed packaging. They consisted of a charcoal layer that was btwn 1/8 - 1/4 inch thick and it was a solid layer of charcoal. Trust me on this as i tore one of them apart because i was going to have to wear it for 12+ hrs and didn't want to sweat to death (for an exercise). The new suits are reusable and can be washed in a normal washer and reused in a chemical environment. If that technology is good enough for a chemical environment then as long as the product put out for commercial use is 90 percent of that level then maybe it is worth a try. i cannot say how good Scentlok is, I am going to try it though this year and more importantly I am going to hunt with the wind when I can. jm2c

LouisianaTomkat 08-20-2007 08:23 PM

RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
 


Proven Effective Just For Folks Like You atlasman. If you really wanna get close to the spikers, this should do it.


LT (By the way I have the patent on this suit so don't get any ideas)


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