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Germ 08-17-2007 11:43 AM

P & Y stats
 
Doing some reading at lunch

74% of the bucks entered in P & Y are by hunters with 10+ years
experience.

The highest % of entries are from 25+ years of experience.

23 yds is the average distance of a book buck kill

78% book bucks are taken from tree stands

7 out of top 20 typical bucks have come from Iowa.

Bucks over 150 inches are rare. KY and IN have had the most increase of the years. KY 48.9% and IN 38.6 both states now have an OBR, hmmmm

35% of the top ten entries in NT and Typical have been tagged in the last 7 years.

GMMAT 08-17-2007 11:46 AM

RE: P & Y stats
 
So....3.5 deer have been entered in the last 7 years (in the top ten)?

Somebody got shorted, huh?

I know, I know......3 and 4 would work.

interesting.

Germ 08-17-2007 11:49 AM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Since you are doing NC math:D

7

Both NT and Tyical so 3.5 for each group;)

Mr. Longbeard 08-17-2007 11:53 AM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Hey just curious... Being that public land is so awsome to hunt... I wonder how many of those P&Y's came off public land??? I'm willing to bet a good number came off of some kind of bait... What do experts think;)

Germ 08-17-2007 12:01 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 

ORIGINAL: Mr. Longbeard

Hey just curious... Being that public land is so awsome to hunt... I wonder how many of those P&Y's came off public land??? I'm willing to bet a good number came off of some kind of bait... What do experts think;)
You should stick to Turkey's, or write a check and buy some land;)

bawanajim 08-17-2007 12:05 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Hows North western PA look? Any entries from Crawford county.

Any body named Jim ? ;)

GMMAT 08-17-2007 12:11 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Jim Hamilton.

Is that you?

bawanajim 08-17-2007 12:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Jim Hamilton.

Is that you?
Couldn't be , I'm just new to deer hunting.;)

GMMAT 08-17-2007 12:22 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Didn't answer the question.

adidazman15 08-17-2007 12:24 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
I guess I am not the only one who read the Bowhunter Magazine, that is a great article

bawanajim 08-17-2007 12:26 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
No not me.......... Where does he say he shoot it and when....... ?

GMMAT 08-17-2007 12:32 PM

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Just wondering. No biggie. he didn't say.

buckeye 08-17-2007 02:46 PM

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Any other interesting statisticsin the article?

Germ 08-17-2007 02:50 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 

ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

Any other interesting statisticsin the article?
Yes 3 pages worth, want me to list them all, LOL

Jim_IV 08-17-2007 02:50 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 

ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

Any other interesting statisticsin the article?
It said something about buckeye and bigjim putting a couple in the books. That was just their prediction along with team 16 winning the contest.;)

buckeye 08-17-2007 02:52 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr

Any other interesting statisticsin the article?
Yes 3 pages worth, want me to list them all, LOL
YEP :D


It said something about buckeye and bigjim putting a couple in the books. That was just their prediction along with team 16 winning the contest.;)

Now those are the best statistics I have read yet

Germ 08-17-2007 02:57 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Go buy Sportsman's Bowhunter Annual:D

Buckeye is puttinga booner in the books, I am making the call!!!

buckeye 08-17-2007 03:21 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
You could at least throw me a couple more to tide me overuntil I find the mag:D

Bird Hunt Dog 08-17-2007 04:57 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 

ORIGINAL: Mr. Longbeard

Hey just curious... Being that public land is so awsome to hunt... I wonder how many of those P&Y's came off public land??? I'm willing to bet a good number came off of some kind of bait... What do experts think;)
Give it up already..........Maybe a job would help. Oh but then you wouldn't have time for that public land hunting.............I'm so sick of hearing about this I could[:'(]

bloodcrick 08-17-2007 07:41 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Some interesting stats there Germ, Glad to see Indiana improving in those stats. Dam, i keep hearing that the OBR is not working for Indiana, I personally think it does, coupled with the many land leases that are a trend in my area, people have gotten more picky with what they shoot since they get only one buck tag, and are letting them grow to potential. I know, i have eaten tag soup several times waiting on the big boys and giving the smaller ones free passes.again interesting.

ORIGINAL: Germ

Doing some reading at lunch

74% of the bucks entered in P & Y are by hunters with 10+ years
experience.

The highest % of entries are from 25+ years of experience.

23 yds is the average distance of a book buck kill

78% book bucks are taken from tree stands

7 out of top 20 typical bucks have come from Iowa.

Bucks over 150 inches are rare. KY and IN have had the most increase of the years. KY 48.9% and IN 38.6 both states now have an OBR, hmmmm

35% of the top ten entries in NT and Typical have been tagged in the last 7 years.

TFOX 08-17-2007 08:10 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Here is one of those little public land deer.


Germ 08-17-2007 08:12 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
That was shot in Ill not Kentucky;)

Germ 08-17-2007 09:15 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Some more facts

1 1/4 is how close Hubert"Tiggy" Collins 203 3/8ths inch typical came from being the #1 archery typical world record.


4 to 6 PM more P & Y bucks are killed in that time period than any other 38%

Buffalo Count has 429 Entries in P & Y Top Dog!!!

159-1/8th Is the highest scoring typical from Georgia

191-7/8th Take the top ten typical bucks killed in Iowa and divide by 10 and 191-7/8th is the average.

96% hunters(tag a book buck)prefer Compound bows

Sliverflicker 08-17-2007 09:18 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Man what a buck! If that onewould not get the ticker thumping hard, I think they can claim youDead!

Antler Eater 08-17-2007 09:40 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
I find those stats very interesting. I always wonder how far up the ladder they have to go to get those gems. I know there is extra info on the affidavit that is sent in to the P&Y clubbut what does one have to do to get access to such info...

In the late 90's I know the average distance that most P&Y's were killed was under 20 yards, something like 18 yards or so. Could technology ( better equipment and/or skill) be pushing the ability to make a killing shot farther than in days gone by or is it something else? Dunno

I thought the 38% (4-6 PM) evening kill figure is an interesting one. We have had this discussion before and as I recall most herefelt more big bucks were killed in the evening than in the AM. I guess I buck (no pun intended) that trend personally, over 70 % of the P&Y bucks I have killed have been in the AM. This makes me wonder...could the P&Ykill figure be higher in the 4-6 PM hours because more guys hunt the evening than do the AM? In other words during the rut I know a lot of guys that get home from work and head for the woods. They are unable to hunt the AM during the work week...Just thinking out loud.

Germ 08-17-2007 09:48 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 
Yes the 4 to 6 was shock to me also.

TV guys state 10-2 is the best time. I also found the stats for KY and IN to be very telling when a state is focused on good deer management

Albertabowhunt 08-17-2007 11:14 PM

RE: P & Y stats
 

It said something about buckeye and bigjim putting a couple in the books. That was just their prediction along with team 16 winning the contest.;)
:Dyou forgot albertabowhunt in there too... it was in small print so i'll give u the benifet of the doubt.. I also like the statistics of team16 winning the contest LOL.

GregH 08-18-2007 07:48 AM

RE: P & Y stats
 

ORIGINAL: Antler Eater

I thought the 38% (4-6 PM) evening kill figure is an interesting one. We have had this discussion before and as I recall most herefelt more big bucks were killed in the evening than in the AM. I guess I buck (no pun intended) that trend personally, over 70 % of the P&Y bucks I have killed have been in the AM. This makes me wonder...could the P&Ykill figure be higher in the 4-6 PM hours because more guys hunt the evening than do the AM? In other words during the rut I know a lot of guys that get home from work and head for the woods. They are unable to hunt the AM during the work week...Just thinking out loud.
I too used to think that the AMs were better for big bucks. Now I am 50/50 with AM vs PM. I'm not sure why my success has shifted to the PM, might have something to do with warmer weather or maybe a change in stand location.

bawanajim 08-18-2007 07:52 AM

RE: P & Y stats
 

ORIGINAL: GregH


ORIGINAL: Antler Eater

I thought the 38% (4-6 PM) evening kill figure is an interesting one. We have had this discussion before and as I recall most herefelt more big bucks were killed in the evening than in the AM. I guess I buck (no pun intended) that trend personally, over 70 % of the P&Y bucks I have killed have been in the AM. This makes me wonder...could the P&Ykill figure be higher in the 4-6 PM hours because more guys hunt the evening than do the AM? In other words during the rut I know a lot of guys that get home from work and head for the woods. They are unable to hunt the AM during the work week...Just thinking out loud.
I too used to think that the AMs were better for big bucks. Now I am 50/50 with AM vs PM. I'm not sure why my success has shifted to the PM, might have something to do with warmer weather or maybe a change in stand location.
Some thing to think about is the sheer number of guys who can only hunt after work.

TFOX 08-18-2007 09:20 AM

RE: P & Y stats
 
There seems to be some confusion as to where the buck was killed but most still think it came from the pennyrile wma in ky.

http://mikehanback.blogs.com/bigbuckzone/2006/12/12acre_texas_mo.html

Sliverflicker 08-18-2007 10:09 AM

RE: P & Y stats
 
When the days are hot and the Bucks are still hanging around together in bachelor groups, the evenings always workedbetterfor me catching them moving from Bedding to feeding areas ( and they usually dont move far),with little to no movement at daybreak.
As a chill clings to the morning air and themonth of Oct draws to an end, the rub and scrape lines begin getting active, and I start hunting the mornings trying to catch them finishing up their rounds befor moving back to their bedding areas.
I, like most, probably hunt twice as many evenings as I do mornings. SoI can only assume thats where the high % of Kills in the P&Y listings come from.
I did take a 150 class Buck off public hunting land in Kansas at around 1:30 in the afternoon when I figured out he was cleaning out the scrapes inbetween my morning and evening hunts.




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