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Of being selfish, that is. I want to pose a question to you guys. Here is the deal. Me and my Dad have 40 acres (half hardwoods/whiteoaks and half 20 year natural regrowth from cutover) that we have posted. Now this is a square block of land. The entire square is surrounded by a hunting lease. They have elevated box blinds on 2 sides right outside our property line and 2 more at one end of our property line. These guys have probably 1000 acres or more surrounding us yet this is their way of getting too close to us. Here is the question. Would it be selfish of me to install elevated box blinds right across the line on my side of the property at each of their stand sites? I intend to do this but I just wanted a varied input from you guys. I feel that these guys have so much more area to hunt adjacent to us that they could back off some and quit pressuring our land so much. So what do you think? Am I being selfish/wrong in thinking this way?

LT

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well.....?

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Go for it...only problem is you can't shoot the Deer on their property and by law they shouldn't be shooting (Aiming) at Deer on your property!I wouldn't waste my money time and labor on building a elevated box blind over-looking their land....but I would set one about 25-50 yards inside your timber to get any deer that would be bedding or crossing over to your land!

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I didn't think this group could stay on a subject more than 2 hours :D. I feel your pain, but not everyone is as polite as you may be regardless of how much land they have. I deal with similar issues, but hunt harder and smarter and actually use the other guys to determine where the deer are going to be on my farm. The only other option is to befriend the neighbors and see if you can reason with them. Best of luck.

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GTO, I am not intending on shooting over their property line. I am pretty much wanting to do just what you said. Simply as a deterrent to keep them from liking their stands so much.LOL

I don't know that they would ever shoot onto our property, but they might if they thought they could get away with it. I just want to let them know that they are crowding us. I know it's their land they hunt, but they know we have the Whiteoak acorns and deer on ours, therefore they try to intercept deer coming to and going from our land. Sad. Guess I will just continue to do as you do Kelly and use their stands/traffic to my advantage.

LT

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id do the same thing or actually, knowing me id prolly do somethinlike use some of that deer detractant!

but it stinks that they put theyre blinds soooo close to your property!

some people are just jerks


good luck

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I would probably post some "no hunting" signs right along your property line. Maybe that will deter them enough that you won't get pressured.

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don't put a blind on your property line. put a food plot there. pull the deer off their 1000 acres!

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They are within their right, but........

If it were only one stand against your land, I'd say get over it. But the fact that they surrounded you like that tells me they are just d^&*s. I think If my land wasthe bedding area or an area the needed to pass though, I would put up a high fence in each spot that they have a blind. That way the deer will go through a different spot. At least they will get the point. Not that they'll necessarily care though.

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Crowd the line if you want. Its your property. Make it a deterrent. Apparently you have the better hunting if they want to get as close to your land as they can. They are the ones who started it. I wouldnt back off. Like I said its your property, so do with it as you see fit. Even if you dont sit in it as much, let them know your hunting there. I wouldnt shoot anything on their lease, and I would damn sure make sure they wouldnt shoot anything on my property. Lets face it some people wont give a damn about what you think, there is no reasioning with some people. So do whats best for you...

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I would make sure that every tree on your property line facing those stands had a posted sign on it. Hopefully you have some bedding areas on your property and I would definately put in a food plot.

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I like the fence idea, change there patern so there blinds are worthless, the fence would be cheeper too. If you put up a blind make sure you put a little red light in the shadows so they think you are viedoing them!! That will keep them honest too.

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do it man!

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don't waste good $$ on putting upbox blindsthat you really won't use, just spend enough to put up some some sheets of plywood bill board style. Paint it camo on your side and bright pink on theirs :D. You can't tell me they don't know what their doing by crowding your line that close.

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it's a damn shame people can be like that.

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I deal with similar issues from people who get permission to hunt a farm to my south. I usually place a NO HUNTING sign right in front of their stand. The last two years they have actually cleared shooting lanes onto our property so I fill those back in, placed a scarecrow on our side of the property line by their standand last year I cut out the regulation about shooting deer on property that you do not have permission to hunt on and placed it on their stand seat. Their stand was gone the next day.

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heres what id do and we do this at our cabin cause the people there are like that we dont hardly go anywhere in the woods except to our treestands so that we dont kick the deer of our property and trust me this works as long as you can create food shelter and water for the deer they shouldnt go any where except the freezer:eek:;)[8D]

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Funny you should mention this...

We have a stand on a power line that runs through our property. This stand is about 50 yards from the property line, (this is my cousins stand), and we have hunted it for years. But about 2 yrs ago, the property next put a stand right beside ours, on the same power line. This made me angry... my cousin has climbed into the stand, waited for 3 hours, just to have a hunter on the other property drive his truck up to his stand, put out some corn, and scare all of the deer off of my cousins stand in the process. And what does this guy do? He waves "hi."

Maybe its just me, but if I were you, go for it. He has 3 stands on the edge of yalls property... and if he has a problem with you putting a stand up on the property line he needs to see a therapist.

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I disagree with what RackLuster said,

Don't put a food plot on the border, put it as far from the edge of your property as you can.
We have similar problems and one solution was getting rid of 2 plots ringing the border and moving
them further in. So the deer sightings there have gone down own and they have moved one
bad stand location.

I don't see anything wrong with putting your stand back-to-back with theirs. I doubt it will
start a war that will hurt you since you have 40 and they have hundreds of other acres to bother
with. It also shouldn't hurt you on deer sightings since there is already a stand there, and
even if they don't move the stand, it will probably make them use that stand a lot less, or
think twice about putting another stand on the border.

Edit: Huntingson, same problem here, may have to try that scarecrow tactic.

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Boy these are great. First thing I would do is see who is in charge of the lease. Talk it over with them with all the respect in the world. If this doesnt change things then I would start small & work you way up in the tactics you use to deter them.

I am a very private hunter & I hate running into other hunters when I am in the woods. There probably is nothing worse then at lights up theres a dude 15 feet away from you hunting. For both people this is a frustrating asspect. If you talk to them with respect they probably will understand. Dont threaten them if things dont go your way though just do your deeds. They will get the point.

I wonder if a strobe lightwould deter a deer on opening day. put one of those out by all the stands the night before opening day.

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Have you thought aboutputting up a couple Trail Cameras?
You could camo/hide the real one and put up a couple fake ones that are out in the open for them to see...facing right at thier stands!

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I would probably talk to them and see what their real agenda is? If it wasn't on the up and up, I would definitely try to change the pattern/trails of the deer, probably not a fence. But, cut down some unwanted brush/trees and pile them up on the fence line.

You could be hurting your hunting also. I would plant food crops on the opposite side of your property so the deer would have to penetrate your land a little deeper to get to the goodies.

Years ago I had the same problem with a land owner who kicked a tree stand out of a tree I was huntin' opening morning for gun season. It was about 15 feet off the property line and I had just placed it in the night before. I just left it there and placed a portable about 75 yards deeper in the woods for the second day of the hunt.

Guess who I caught tresspassing the next morning? I was in that very stand an hour in a half before first day light so I wouldn't "push" them any deer. Twenty minutes before first light, the son walks over to the point where my tree stand was located ... lights a cigarette and puffs away, oblivious to my presence and sits down with his back to me.

My blood began to boil ... as I began to climb down the tree and confront this jerk! Every year after that during gun season, I antiscipated how they would push deer to me and began to utilize this information to harvest quality bucks. The key was to arrive "at least" an hour and a half before day light ... it payed off handsomely.

As they say, "when someone hands you lemons, make lemonade.