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GMMAT 08-07-2007 01:08 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I like 'em just small enough that you can drag 'em out with your haul line.

;)

CovertOps 08-07-2007 01:17 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
A hunting buddy of mine shot a bb & a fawn with the same bullet 3 or 4 years ago. The fawn laid out in a feild & made the worst noise I have ever heard. We went out & had to put it down. I think that is one of the worst experiances I have had hunting. He has not hunted since.

I think I would not shoot a fawn. But thats just me. There are a lot of good arguments here.

bloodcrick 08-07-2007 01:32 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
No fawns for me, dont know why, just wont. A good healthy doe will do just fine. prefered an alone doe with no fawns.

Roadkillwarrior 08-07-2007 01:39 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I would probably shoot the older deer, but if I couldnt get a shot I would shoot one of the fawns. They just look to delicious to pass up, mmmmm fawn.......

robbcayman 08-07-2007 01:49 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: huntingson


ORIGINAL: robbcayman
Even if the fawn is female she has potential to give birth to other large bucks, so why not let her produce more offspring i.e. shoot her right after this has occured? Now, if they have overpopulated an area then by all means go for it. However, natural selection has been working for a long time without your help.;) Plus, young fawns have enough pressure from other preadators besides humans.
So, by this logic no one should ever harvest a doe unless there is a severe population control issue because she may give birth to a future monster buck?
No, I didn't say that I am talking about fawns.

peakrut 08-07-2007 02:19 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
Well put Jeff

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Why would anyone shoot a small fawn is beyond me , I mean why would you waste a kill tag and your time to gut it out , take it home then butcher or pay to have it butchered for only thirty five to forty pounds of meat.
1) I have unlimited tags for does.
2) That doe fawn is capable of reproducing....and I have a population problem
3) I have time to spend an hour processing the meat
4) I feel no reason to be "choosy" over which does I target. Idon't need towaste a chance.
5) Young doe = good eatin.

peakrut 08-07-2007 02:35 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
Hoser,

The power that be up in Madison told me CWD hunters didnt kill enough last year in certain parts. Its all for one, one for all kind of thing.
I got Mr. Warnke to admit a few myths about CWD and some current studies about it being in the dirt and we will never eradicate the disease.
http://www.bloodbro.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=1094
quote]ORIGINAL: hoseromon

Their back to earn a buck this year again. Didnt they realize last year when they took it away and more deer were shot in the cwd. I am so sick and tired of those **** off dnr they dont make sense. The deer they all want dead and they bring back earn a buck again. Last year I got to shoot a 6 point 3 days into the season because they didnt have earn a buck and in past years me and my buddy have passed on multiple buck some being close to book size because of the earn a buck. They want them all dead yet they bring back the earn a buck again. GRR im sick of this state and dnr. okay done venting. So they got the cwd regulations out can they be found on their website now then?
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SuperRedHawk 08-07-2007 03:07 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
Drop any one of them. You'll be kicking yourself later when you've wasted so much time waiting for a lone, mature doe that may never show up!

fetzeriiif 08-07-2007 03:11 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: robbcayman


ORIGINAL: huntingson


ORIGINAL: robbcayman
Even if the fawn is female she has potential to give birth to other large bucks, so why not let her produce more offspring i.e. shoot her right after this has occured? Now, if they have overpopulated an area then by all means go for it. However, natural selection has been working for a long time without your help.;) Plus, young fawns have enough pressure from other preadators besides humans.
So, by this logic no one should ever harvest a doe unless there is a severe population control issue because she may give birth to a future monster buck?
No, I didn't say that I am talking about fawns.
As I said before, Worst logic I have ever herd. We shouldn't shoot a fawn because it might give birth to a buck the next year. You say wait till after it gives birth. Hate to break it to you buddy, but that doe is more likely to have fawns the next year than the fawn and more of them. Once again not shooting them them because they might be a buck, because it bothers you, or because you just don't want tois fine. Your logic is just plain back wards.

Paul L Mohr 08-07-2007 03:14 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
Mom would be a gonner in that situation with me. Sounds mean, but from a population control standpoint if the fawns don't make it that would actually be a plus. Life in the wild is rough, something else will eat them though. Circle of life and all that crap you know.

I will add that if it was really early in the season and they had spot still I probably would not do it. If they are bit older they will be fine most likely. Until shotgun season anyway[:o]:D.

Paul

robbcayman 08-07-2007 03:14 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: fetzeriiif


ORIGINAL: robbcayman


ORIGINAL: huntingson


ORIGINAL: robbcayman
Even if the fawn is female she has potential to give birth to other large bucks, so why not let her produce more offspring i.e. shoot her right after this has occured? Now, if they have overpopulated an area then by all means go for it. However, natural selection has been working for a long time without your help.;) Plus, young fawns have enough pressure from other preadators besides humans.
So, by this logic no one should ever harvest a doe unless there is a severe population control issue because she may give birth to a future monster buck?
No, I didn't say that I am talking about fawns.
As I said before, Worst logic I have ever herd. We shouldn't shoot a fawn because it might give birth to a buck the next year. You say wait till after it gives birth. Hate to break it to you buddy, but that doe is more likely to have fawns the next year than the fawn and more of them. Once again not shooting them them because they might be a buck, because it bothers you, or because you just don't want tois fine. Your logic is just plain back wards.
According to the wildlife and game experts fawns have enough pressure from outside sources that by hunting them you hurt the herd. That is why I posted that link. So, this is not just my thoughts, but those of experts.

crutch 08-07-2007 03:49 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I have always passed up fawns for some reason. They are fun to watch walking around under the tree stand. Don't get me wrong, if the end of the season is closing in with no meat, thats a different story. Plus this way they are a little bigger. I have never had to take any fawns so far. Where I (am able) hunt is low deer population and sometimes it is tempting when onepasses bye....[&:]
crutch

Arrowmaster 08-07-2007 04:01 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I wont shoot a fawn...

tlutterba 08-07-2007 04:13 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
In indiana, you are not allowed to take fawns. SO therfore I would take the mom

fetzeriiif 08-07-2007 05:09 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
You're not allowed to take fawns or spotted fawns? If it is just fawns in general, I don't believe it. Too many gun hunters would end up shooting what they thought were does at 200 yards. They would walk up to their fawn, see their mistake, and leave it lay. Is There anyone else from Indiana that can clarify his statement?

fetzeriiif 08-07-2007 05:18 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/huntguide1/0708_HG/0708_hg_generalinfo.pdf

Maybe you should read your regulations again. What do you think all of those bonus antlerless tags are for?

Windwalker7 08-07-2007 05:40 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I've done both and to be honest, I didn't feel right about shooting mom.

One time I had one of the fawns stand there and stare at me as I was getting ready to gut the doe. I felt terrible and that memory still haunts me.

To this day, I prefer to fill antlerless tags with a fawn if given a choice.

Much better eating although less meat. That's alright too if you and your family have multiple tags.

I ain't ashamed to post a pic either.

Here is where one of last year's antlerless tags went.


fetzeriiif 08-07-2007 10:51 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
Way to show that every deer is a trophy!!! Some of these guys get so wrapped up in it, that they forget what it is all about.
If you didn'tfeel it was a trophy, why would you take a picture.

Plus One 08-08-2007 04:45 AM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
Personally I wouldn't shoot a doe with a fawn, or a fawn alone... spotted or not, but that's just me. Of course I don't have the CWD or severe overpopulation problems, if I had to deal with that I might change my point of view.

Ken

PYbuckhunter 08-08-2007 07:33 AM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I also hunt in the CWD area in WI. I have heard many hunters telling stories about how a huge buck walked by and they couldn't shoot, because they didn't have a buck tag. Personally I have never had that happen, you want to know why? Because, I am not ashamed to shoot the first doe or fawn that gives me a good shot. I have shot the mom when she had fawns with her (they will be fine by themselves). I haveshot fawns (buck and doe), and I have shot mom andone fawn at the same time. I don't target nubs, and would never knowingly shoot one if I didn't need to earn my buck tag.But you can bet your ass I'm not going to pass him up opening day. I'm in the sametree as FRALEY, I'm going into this season without a buck tag, so the first non antlered deer to give me a good shot is going down.

burniegoeasily 08-08-2007 07:37 AM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
How many doe tags do you have? Take them both. ;)

BKE 08-08-2007 11:24 AM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

I'd take out the mother. It's more meat, and the fawns should be plenty old enough by now to survive on their own.
My thoughts exactly.

BKE 08-08-2007 11:32 AM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: Windwalker7

One time I had one of the fawns stand there and stare at me as I was getting ready to gut the doe. I felt terrible and that memory still haunts me.

So much for my thoughts, now I have to rethink things.

Beagle001 08-08-2007 01:09 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

turtleshell 08-08-2007 02:23 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: huntingson


ORIGINAL: RDHunter

Why would anyone shoot a small fawn is beyond me , I mean why would you waste a kill tag and your time to gut it out , take it home then butcher or pay to have it butchered for only thirty five to forty pounds of meat.
For the same reason you pay more for Kobe beef my friend... it tastes that much better. I butcher it for myself so it doesn't cost me any extra, and honestly, the fawns here are about as big as the mature does in the south.

Motown, you can tell a fawn doe from a fawn buck as long as they are close enough to see if there are nubs. Don't shoot the ones with nubs.
Listen carefully and you can hear their nuts rattling:)

boonecountybowhunter 08-08-2007 03:20 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
shoot one of the fawns
don't worry, the doe will be fine

rankbull 08-08-2007 04:34 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: boonecountybowhunter

shoot one of the fawns
don't worry, the doe will be fine
Thats how it worked out for me last year

tlutterba 08-08-2007 06:25 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: fetzeriiif

http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/huntguide1/0708_HG/0708_hg_generalinfo.pdf

Maybe you should read your regulations again. What do you think all of those bonus antlerless tags are for?
I apologize i just don't feel that shooting a spotted fawn can sastify anyone. You get next to nothing in meat. Also MOST people (fetzeriiif i said MOST not all) won't see spotted fawns during deer season at least around here anyways. But if you find something on Indiana dnr website about that, you can be sure to prove me wrong!!

atlasman 08-08-2007 07:11 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
They all look the same in the freezer.


Shoot whatever you want to and have a tag for.

fetzeriiif 08-08-2007 07:30 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 

ORIGINAL: tlutterba


ORIGINAL: fetzeriiif

http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/huntguide1/0708_HG/0708_hg_generalinfo.pdf

Maybe you should read your regulations again. What do you think all of those bonus antlerless tags are for?
I apologize i just don't feel that shooting a spotted fawn can sastify anyone. You get next to nothing in meat. Also MOST people (fetzeriiif i said MOST not all) won't see spotted fawns during deer season at least around here anyways. But if you find something on Indiana dnr website about that, you can be sure to prove me wrong!!
I just wanted you to clarify which fawn was illegal to shoot because I thought maybe there was some regulation meant to protect spotted fawns. Although, I would shoot a spotted fawn if I needed it for my Buck tag.
This is what I really want to know.......
Why would you say it is illegal to shoot fawns in Indiana, when it obviously is not?

JimboHunter1 08-08-2007 07:50 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I've shot a doe with (spotless) fawns, but never the other way around. I don't eat veal either. It's just a personal preference.

Lx lungbuster7 08-08-2007 08:02 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
if a doe had two fawns i would shoot the smaller of the two fawns it would give the other a better chance of surviving the winter since it wouldnt have to compete for food with the other fawn,plus the meat would be nice and tender.
Now if it was a doe and one fawn i would pass them both

Mr. Longbeard 08-08-2007 09:22 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I personally would not shoot a fawn with spots... I have shot a young doe that had just lost it's spots... Sometimes its hard to tell how big a lone deer is...

Tom2008 08-08-2007 09:34 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
No fawns for me I had a very sad expierience with a young one that will be with me forever. I won't shoot a doe with fawns either even if they will be alright. I hate the sound of a fawn searching for its mom and especially if mom is never coming back.

xtremebowhunter26 08-08-2007 10:27 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
there is no pride in shooting a fawn

goos_blues 08-08-2007 10:29 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
In the later season I sometimes have a hard time distinquishing between does and fawns. I try not to shoot a fawn, but I have in the past shot one thinking it was bigger

bballhead44 08-08-2007 10:30 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
theres no point...fawns are just to young

_Dan 08-08-2007 10:32 PM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
Do yourself a favor and whack a doe fawn.....great eating and doing the herd a favor.

Dr Andy 08-09-2007 05:41 AM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
I agree, taste great.
As for shooting a doe w/o fawns,remeber most of the does you see have fawns,they aren't always sticking real closeto mom this time of year. It's rare for a doe to be barren, so that doe you shoot that seemed to be w/o fawns probably isn't and you've just orphaned them anyway! Don't worry about it.

rankbull 08-09-2007 08:24 AM

RE: To shoot a fawn?
 
the fawns will be fine after September if they were helpless without mom then the DNR wouldn't let you shoot them


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