My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
#101
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: WV
Posts: 4,485
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
Good post Bigj12, I think that is pretty much it with one minor exception.
When someone makes you an offer regarding anything, you have more choices than to accept or decline. You can make a counter offer and that may be, in effect, what the "guests" were doing in GMMAT's case
I apologize for the proliferation of posts that I have had on this thread and now will respectfully bow out (barring further interjection by others directed at me)
Take care and good hunting all
hb
When someone makes you an offer regarding anything, you have more choices than to accept or decline. You can make a counter offer and that may be, in effect, what the "guests" were doing in GMMAT's case
I apologize for the proliferation of posts that I have had on this thread and now will respectfully bow out (barring further interjection by others directed at me)
Take care and good hunting all
hb
#102
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1
Good post Bigj12, I think that is pretty much it with one minor exception.
When someone makes you an offer regarding anything, you have more choices than to accept or decline. You can make a counter offer and that may be, in effect, what the "guests" were doing in GMMAT's case
I apologize for the proliferation of posts that I have had on this thread and now will respectfully bow out (barring further interjection by others directed at me)
Take care and good hunting all
hb
Good post Bigj12, I think that is pretty much it with one minor exception.
When someone makes you an offer regarding anything, you have more choices than to accept or decline. You can make a counter offer and that may be, in effect, what the "guests" were doing in GMMAT's case
I apologize for the proliferation of posts that I have had on this thread and now will respectfully bow out (barring further interjection by others directed at me)
Take care and good hunting all
hb
I guess it all depends on how it was asked. As I understand it GMMAT made it clear that they were only to shoot does, there's no "counter offer" to something as clear as that. If someone tells me does only I know where that person stands and I will accept or decline based on that offer. In my case I would graciously decline as I would not like restrictions put on my hunt just as I would not restrict those who hunt with me.
Now if GMMAT just asked them to "come out and shoot does" then I think it's perfectly reasonable for something like the buck comment to be made because the ground rules weren't clearly laid out from the start.
Again, I think a lesson was learned about knowing the people you hunt with and only hunting with the people you know and trust.
#103
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
Do any of you think that the guys that whacked the fifteen biggest bucks last year left home with that in mind??????????????????
No I'm only gonna shoot a doe......[:-][:-][:-][:-][:-][:-][:-]
No I'm only gonna shoot a doe......[:-][:-][:-][:-][:-][:-][:-]
#104
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,210
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
jim - did they go after being asked to only shoot does? I don't understand the arguement. Plainly he asked them to only shoot does, if they can't abide by it, then they shouldn't go. I watched a Drury video where the guy was allowed to shoot any deer but a 180" 8 pointer, well guess what.... 8pointer walked right under his stand stood at 18 yards and was videod for 10 min, the man had the integrity to not shoot that buck. It would have been his biggest ever. That is the line that decides what kind of man you are.
#105
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
ORIGINAL: nctaxi
jim - did they go after being asked to only shoot does? I don't understand the arguement. Plainly he asked them to only shoot does, if they can't abide by it, then they shouldn't go. I watched a Drury video where the guy was allowed to shoot any deer but a 180" 8 pointer, well guess what.... 8pointer walked right under his stand stood at 18 yards and was videod for 10 min, the man had the integrity to not shoot that buck. It would have been his biggest ever. That is the line that decides what kind of man you are.
jim - did they go after being asked to only shoot does? I don't understand the arguement. Plainly he asked them to only shoot does, if they can't abide by it, then they shouldn't go. I watched a Drury video where the guy was allowed to shoot any deer but a 180" 8 pointer, well guess what.... 8pointer walked right under his stand stood at 18 yards and was videod for 10 min, the man had the integrity to not shoot that buck. It would have been his biggest ever. That is the line that decides what kind of man you are.
#106
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,210
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
I can't argue your point. But if Jeff invited me to hunt his land for does only, I have at least 3 doe tags, guess how many I am gonna shoot? Provided Jeff helps drag..... Even if the next world record walks by.... I might draw just to see if I could do it without shakin all to pieces, but it would walk.
#107
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
Nah, the're the ones being selfish. Here you go & invite them to "thin the herd" by shooting does. What part of thin the herd don't they understand. If you wanted them to shoot anything, u'd invite them to hunt your property. No you're not in the wrong. I would respect request if it's known upfront about shooting does only. Besides they taste better, & u can't eat the antlers.
#108
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
ORIGINAL: nctaxi
I can't argue your point. But if Jeff invited me to hunt his land for does only, I have at least 3 doe tags, guess how many I am gonna shoot? Provided Jeff helps drag..... Even if the next world record walks by.... I might draw just to see if I could do it without shakin all to pieces, but it would walk.
I can't argue your point. But if Jeff invited me to hunt his land for does only, I have at least 3 doe tags, guess how many I am gonna shoot? Provided Jeff helps drag..... Even if the next world record walks by.... I might draw just to see if I could do it without shakin all to pieces, but it would walk.
#109
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
Posts: 21,199
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
As I remember the property you hunt isn't that big. I really don't think you'd have a hard time whacking some does all by your lonely. That said, if they can't come and visit for just a doe hunt then leave them out.They have to be ready to abide by the rules or the landlord. And if you're not the landlord, well they have to abide by his agents rules. To be honest, they've shown their true colors already. I wouldn't trust them. They might go behind your back and get permission from the landowner all by themselves. Choose your friends more wisely.
#110
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Posts: 11,472
RE: My eyes were opened.....Am I selfish?
NY,
If you would abide by the same rules as you ask other to, all while on your land, then that may be the difference.
If you would abide by the same rules as you ask other to, all while on your land, then that may be the difference.
But, I still see it as I'm the one inviting people to MY land to hunt with stipulations. Kind of like giving them an opportunity if they choose to want to come out and shoot some does. If they choose not too than so be it, I still offered them a chance to put meat in the freezer if they were intersted.
Still seems like a no brainer to me. As long as the rules talked about and decided on ahead of time. I guess it's all in how you present it. It almost has to be black and white. "You guys want to come to my land and take a few does (AND ONLY DOES)....... yes or no?"