RE: jumping the string
 

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I believe that jumping the string is a direct result of shooting under spined arrows that don't take all the energy that the bow creates. The energy still in the bow has to be released somewhere and that is through the bow in the form of noise or vibration. Anybody else believe this?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

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RE: jumping the string
 

LOL hawgz...well the speed of sound is 1100fps and since even a REALLY FAST bow only clocks in around 300fps dont you think it stands to reason that the SOUND will get to the deer 4 times faster than the ARROW?

I once saw a video where they studied string jumping...dont quote me on this becuz my memory aint what it used to be...I think it may have been in Primos' Truth series. Shooting 300fps at less than 18 yards even an alert deer has a hard time jumping the string. At distances of 18 yards or more deer have quick enuff reaction times to jump even the fastest bow.

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RE: jumping the string
 

Lilhunter you are totally right.knobby I wasnt saying that the arrow got there faster than the sound.I was just saying the deer is more likely to hear the arrow over the bow.To solve &quot;string jumping&quot; never shoot at alert animals.

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RE: jumping the string
 

Jumping the string, all this talk about noise! An alert deer or any other animal can and does see faster than it hears. I stands to reason that an animal that is alert will see something before it hears anything.

RE: jumping the string
 

so you think an alert deer will see an arrow coming at him at 300+fps before it hears it? i disagree... i've seen it happen before when the deer was alert and when the shot was fired it was broadside and never turned to the hunters direction and still the arrow zipped clean over his back. Again, just my opinion, i may be wrong.

RE: jumping the string
 

Hawgz was right on about listening to a shot from a downrange position. My hunting pal stood [safely] downrange as I was tuning my FX. Then again after I added Limbsavers and the Simms Modular Stabilizer. At 20 yards there is no human descernable sound from my bow; however there is a faint ppfttt from the arrow itself.

In my opinion it is as much the deer sensing something wrong and reaction to it. Here in Washington State in the mountains that ppfttt cannot be heard by us above the ambient sounds.

I literally and mentally force myself NOT TO MAKE EYE CONTACT with any animal I intend to shoot at and I think that this has helped me out to 30 yards. I also aim benind the shoulder and in the bottom 1/3 of the deers heart/lung area. Every deer from the Coues, mulie, whitetail, elk, moose, caribou will automatically Duck even if shot with a .270. If one aims at this lower 1/3 of the heart/lung cavity there is less likleyhood that your shot will miss.

Just my two sents worth.

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RE: jumping the string
 

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Jumping the string, all this talk about noise! An alert deer or any other animal can and does see faster than it hears. I stands to reason that an animal that is alert will see something before it hears anything. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

seldom seen....
where's your data to back up the above statement?

RE: jumping the string
 

first of all you cannot go downrange and stand behind sumthing as an accurate experiment. Whatever it is that youre standing behind is blocking the sound of the bow.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> At 20 yards there is no human descernable sound from my bow<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote> only if yer hard of hearing lol

theres not a bow made today that I and every critter in the woods cant hear when it goes off only 20 yards away.

I dont know what qualifies as ambient sound in Washington...maybe youre hunting next to a race track? :-P

Here in Ohio tho I will guarantee you that any deer within reasonable bow range will hear your bow go off under normal circumstances....excluding thunderstorms and/or high winds. Hearing it doesnt mean that they are for sure going to jump tho.

is quieter better? I think so

but theres not a bow made that cant be heard

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RE: jumping the string
 

Hi,

A deer will jump the string much more often when your using feathers on your arrows.A noisy bow is bad news,but if every thing is equal an arrow with feathers sounds like a bottle rocket heading your way.I know,Ive stood down range and heard arrows wizzing by.

RE: jumping the string
 

knobby not trying to say your wrong amd I'm right,but try it sometime.I my experience you hear the arrow coming canceling out the bow(to my human ear's of course)but with the newer and quiter bows that's all I can ear.All you have to do is stand safely down range and you can verfy this.Even stand with your head down not watching your partner,youll be surprised.But still a nervous deer or animal will react to it.Not so much jumping the string because it know's its being shoot at but as a natrual instinct.

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