Motion sickness?
 

I was just wondering if anyone else suffers from motion sickness yet continues to go on float plane trips and such. I aquired a new illness last year with my inner ear that makes me very prone to motion sickness yet I plan on going on the Sourdough boat off of Kodiak next year. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Clint

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My dad used to work on the oar ships on Lake Superior and he swears that you need to have a full stomach to fight off motion sickness. When the storms would come up they would all batten down the hatches and head to the galley and eat eat eat until the lake calmed down. Drammamine pills work for me.

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Thanks Deerslayer.... Clint

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when i was in the Marine Corps and on ship the doc would give the sea sick a patch of some sort and if i rember right they put it on there temple. you might ask your doc. about it. drammamine will probably make you sleepy. but they might have daytime dose.

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THE SCOPALAMINE PATCHES WORK PRETTY WELL BUT THE ARE PRESCRIPTION.
I ALSO HAVE A WRIST WATCH LOOKING THINK THAT IS CALLED "THE RELIEF BAND" HAVE NOT USED IT MUCH SO I CAN'T SAY HOW IT WORKS. http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/secp/60 THIS WEB SITE WAS THE BEST PRICES I FOUND THE PRODUCT ALSO HAS A WEB SITE THAT WILL GIVE YOU MORE INFO

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I used the "less drowsey" version of drammamine on a float plane for caribou, it didnt work for me nearly as well as the regular. For my money, I'll take the the sleepy side effects of the regular over that "green feeling" any day. Everbody's different though, maybe you can experiment prior to a big trip. Good luck!

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deerslayer,

It may be true, but I wonder a bit about the eating thing. I once went on a whale watch trip off the coast of maine in a 40 mph gail. The seas were very high and 98% of the passengers got sick. I clearly remember watching most of them in the galley eating like pigs at the beginning (drinking too). Well, there was more clam chowder and donuts up-chucked along that deck than anyone would ever care to see. By the time we got to the whales, there was me, the captain and another guy having a good time taking pictures. The other 100 passengers were laying down everywhere moaning and groaning. I don't know if the food hurt, but it sure didn't help on that trip. <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Sometimes I get a little queazy sitting in my stand BOWHUNTING during a high wind <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Hmmmmmm....Motion sickness....I think you either have it or you don't. As a &quot;just in case&quot; I always take some Dramamine when I go out on big waters....otherwise, I usually don't get it. Anyway, a friend of mine swears by those pressure point bands that you can purchase for under $5....they look like an elastic wrist band...I think its all in your head, but thats just my opinion.

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I know its all in his head...I live with him...but seriuously he does get severe motion sickness.

Dianna

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Actually Di you are right. The majority of it is in your head, mental I mean. While a inner ear infection or something of that nature will cause it. It mostly has to do with your ability to cope with it. I luckily don't have it, but I have acrophobia intsead. I will do the same thing if I stand halfway up a ladder. I get queezy and light headed and my hands sweat. Odly enough, airplanes and stuff don't bother me at all, and I love rollercoasters. Only open platforms and ladders do it. I'm not alot of fun in a tree stand.

Go to your doctor and talk to him about it. He can tell you what is around that you can try. And possibly prescribe something short term for you. I have met plenty of people that get prescriptions to fly. A pharmicist might be able to help also. I took something called antivert when I had vertigo and it worked ok for the nausia, but everything was still spinning around. It also made me very tired. I am going to guess that anything that works well will most likely cause drowsiness. I have noticed the same thing with alergy medicine. Oh that's something else you could try, Benydril(spelling?). That drug seems to work for just about anything.

Best of luck, Paul

P.S. Maybe you could get hyptnotised into believing it does not bother you.

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hey Clint, ya remember that big ole halibut I caught on my bear hunt the spring of 2000. Well the first time we went out it was pretty decent waves not to mention the tide rippin. My partner, the boat cpt, decided to drop anchor..almost everyone on the boat was getting quesy but him LOL! Float planes, well as long as I didnt look straight down for 1hr 45mns, I could hold breakfast LOL!

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Paul, He actually has something that they call meniers,which is a inner ear prob and causes you to be dizzy wether your standing still or moving around. Flights just increase the problem really bad.

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Try using ginger. You can but a bottle of ginger in capsules for under $5 from most stores in the vitamin section (try WalMart).
Take a few the day before and then during the day(s) you are traveling as needed. Very effective for most people and no side effects.

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Best product for motion sickness is the Trans-Derm Scop patches only available by prescription. Apply one patch behind ear and it lasts for 3 days. Next is a product called meclizine. Comes in 12.5 and 25 mg over the counter...It comes 12.5 up to 50 mg by prescription but is same product.

Pharmacist Ron

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Cliff....... Just bear down and think of them days when you use to party all night long....... Keep a bag near ya, and hold on fer your life!!!!!!!!!

Honesty, hope you have a good time and find away around this.

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I can't remain silent on this one! From commercial fishing experience, and also being on Superior a lot I want to say MOTION SICKNESS IS NOT &quot;ALL IN YOUR HEAD&quot;. In fact, even salty old Coast Guardsmen can get seasick when forced to perfom in stormy conditions. I would say EVERYONE gets seasick, but people have vastly different tolerances.

The good news is an over the counter medicine called &quot;Bonine&quot; (active ingredient is meclazine, I believe). It is WAY better than Dramamine and doesn't make you sleepy at all. My experience is that Dramamine can make things worse because the drowsiness it causes makes you less able to move with the ship, or whatever.

What really ticks me off is when people who have a high motion sickness tolerance give bum advice like keeping a full stomach. There is nothing so awful as being out on a plane, or especially a boat, vomiting every few minutes and knowing you're trapped for hours!

Get yourself some Bonine and enjoy the day!

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I have agree with Randy in the use of meclazine. I get very seasick and went on a cruise(wifes big idea). The water was very rough and I got sick. Took some meclazine and in 1 hour was ok for the rest of the trip as long as I took it.

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BONINE IS THE OTC ( OVER THE COUNTER ) FORM OF ANTIVERT. THEY BOTH ARE MECLAZINE. BUT IT CAN CAUSE DROWSINESS. TRANSDERM-SCOP PATCHES ARE BETTER WAY TO GO FOR ME BUT AS I SAID I THE RELIEF BAND MAY REALLY BE THE BEST BET.
A FULL STOMACH HELPS DECREASE SYMPTOMS BUT NOT SPICEY OR GREASY THINGS AND NO ALCOHOL.

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Good advice, However I am not so concerned about the float plane ride as I am the stay on the boat. Also for those who think motion sickness is in your head must not get motion sickness because it is a medical condition that can get quite bad. Thanks again, Clint

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Aparently you have something like reacuring or constant vertigo. I am sure there is a technical name for it, but my doc just said it was vertigo. Man do I feel for you, you have my utmost sympathy. I had vertigo for over a month a few years ago. It got so bad I could not even walk sometimes. I just layed it bed and hoped I would die. It almost drove me nuts. Actually I think I was already going nuts, and the vertigo was one of the symptoms.

I can not imagine dealing with this on a daily basis, but my doctor said it was a possibility and some people do. I told him to quit raising my spirits so much. After the first week I wanted to know what was wrong and how to fix it. He said it was not that simple to diagnose, but it was usually some sort of infection that had to run it's course. And unfortunetly you could really not treat it that well. I wanted a cat scan or something, but he said to just take it easy and see what happened. Finnally it slowly went away, but I am scared to death it will come back.

I did not mean that in every case it is a mental thing, but often times people can convince themselves they are sick when they are really not. I now a guy that can get sick if he hears waves or sees a boat at the movies. It has a lot to do with sensory cues and how your brain reacts to them. But some, like in your case have inner ear problems that make them very sensitive to motion. I know for a while when I had it I could not even ride in a car. My brother drove me the doctors once and I had to curl up in ball in the back seat just to keep from screaming and getting sick. (also the day I wanted the cat scan!)

You should deffenitely talk to your doctor about this. I am going to hazard a guess and say that if it is a medical problem you are going to be S.O.L. drugs may not help much. If they did your doc would already have you using something. I bet he tells you to stay off the boat.

By the way, the hypnosis thing was a joke.

My prayers are with you Clint, You are &quot;the man&quot; for controling it and doing what you want any way.

Paul

Edited by - biteme/paul mohr on 01/17/2002 19:37:29

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Thanks for the advice but there is a Brownie on Kodiak that has me on the main course and I dont plan on dissapointing him. Maybe I will try the patch/pill/wristband method and see what happens.hehe Besides the boat is in a bay so only bad weather will cause any turbulance...I hope. Clint

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There's a great little book out called:

Heave Ho! My Little Green Book of Seasickness, by Charles Mazel. ISBN 0-87742-324-5

I highly recommend it for anyone interested in this subject. It's written humourously but has much good solid information on mal de mer through the ages. Quotes inside run the gamit from Plato to Milton Berle.

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On eating, I am a private pilot. If I go up on an empty stomach and its a bumpy day or I do a lot of playing around I get a bit of motion sickness, have not thrown up yet though. If I eat, usually something like a salad and a sandwich, I am perfectly fine.

Given your condition, I think the moto: better living thru chemistry. You can't hunt the same day you land anyway, right? So any effects beyond the flight are not a big deal, by the next morning you should be fine.

--Jim