RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

Here's another test that was done with supposedly no human involvement in the shooting of the bows. 23 bows submitted.

http://www.archeryhistory.com/techevaluation/2007Face-Off_Results_ArcheryTalk.pdf

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

I would rather get reviews by shooters/hunters at the range, pro shops, or places like this as most of them aren't getting paid to push a product. Why would a writer they say something bad about a company as someday they might want something from them. I really don't put alot of stock in magazines as you can learn more by going out to the trees or range yourself. Do I receive some? Sure, but there just people's opinions and nothing more.

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

Arthur, I guess it just gets to me a little when people make cuts on my test when I work so hard to make it unbiased, insist that the data is put out on the web exactly as I record it and only test the bows that are voted on by the readers (8 plus I pick a wild card). We have witnesses attend the test every year who know that absolutely nobody gets to see the bows before the test is over and that the results are recoded as is. Sometimes it amazes me how a tester will rate a bow but I still record it that way and let the results speak for themselves. Also, I think I take it personally when people question my integrity andI shouldn't do that. It is just the nature of people in general, myself included, to speculate about the way things may have happened. I assure you, however, that this is the one test that you can count on to tell it like it is about the parameters of a bow that you and I care about. I don't know where you live or if it would be convenient but I would love for you to join us in the spring of 08 for the next test. You can either just watch or even be a tester if you would like. Really, this test is open for anyone to attend and the more people that show up the more credibility it will carry because there will be more eye-witnesses. You can even be there when I tally up the results and then you will see that what goes on the website is exactly what happens at the test.So, Arthur, give me a call and we will work out a way for you to get here and be part of the test.

The offer to come and watch the test is there for any of the folks on here as well. If you live somewhere near central PA or are going to be in this area during the test I invite you to stop by.

I am sorry if I come acrossin an abrasive mannersometimes - my defensive nature getting the best of me!

Jon

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

No problem, my friend. Anyone who participates on Bowsite develops a habit of being overly defensive out of pure self preservation. I've been in those shoes because I cut my internet teeth at Bowsite. I go there no longer. It's much more civil here. You should hang around and get to know us.:)

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

I think everyone here will accept that and invite you to stick around and share your knowledge.

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

Yeah, I think their must have been a little crack smoking or somthing going on in that test. Notice how they only managed to get 309.5fps out of a Guardian, 308.5 out of a Black Ice, 329.5 out of an Elite Envy, and 342.5 out of an X-Force, yet they were able to get 319.5 out of a Dreanalin.:eek:

Yeah there was no bias there. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Bowtech's have historically always shot very very close to their advertised speeds, Mathews not so much.

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

No it's not a good comparison. Go to a shop that has them all and shoot them side by side. I think you'll find they won't stack up that way for you. Of course you can't rely on magazine evaluations. Every issue they put on display a new and "The best they've ever seen". I've shot them all and that evaluation doesn't match that of mine. In my lineup, the Drenelin would be last. Check out the link provided by Buglalowbizz... it covers all the high points and Drenelin isn't even close. Scroll through each section/criteria and see the rankings. I think it's a much more accurate picture than that of a bias proshop. I'm a hunter. I could care less about speed and all that. I'm looking at noise output, shock, vibration etc etc.

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

Thanks BungalowBizz for the link to that testing! Impressive information!

RE: outdoor life bow review.
 

Bow reviews are never un-biased. Also, many of these "broadhead tests" aren't un-biased either.

You just gotta do your own testing and see what fits you the best.