Horrible Shot!
 

Was watching a show on MOR the other day, and a guy took a shot w/ a bow that was despicable.

The deer was walking straight towards him, slightly quartered. And he arrowed the deer in the top of the back. Now he did recover the deer (didnt show how long it took) But the deer ran off w/ the arrow stickin out his back and only a few inches of penetration.

Personally I would never take a shot like that! Extremely likely you'd never recover the deer, unless you got lucky and hit the spinal cord.
At the angle he shot, the exit wound woulda been back towards deer's reproductive organs. IF he was lucky to get a pass threw.

Disgusting that they put it on TV then people will think its a reasonable shot location![:@]

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I posted a similar thread the other week. Could have been the same show....and I agree they shouldn't have aired it. I sent them an e-mail telling them how I felt.....whether they read it or not.....I'll never know.

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I think there was some good posting on this show a week or so ago.
Check this link:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2177249&mpage=1

Posted w/o seeing GMMAT's post. Check that link.

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Maybe it should be required to take an Archery Education Course to make a hunting show. Sure seems to be more and more bad shots taken andall in an effort to put a show together to push a sponsered product on us.

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It wasnt Closing the Distance.

I think it was Whitetail Properties. I have it on DVR so I'll watch it again tonight. Even worse that its happening more than once.

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you would think that if they were able to produce a hunting show that they would have some kind of sense about putting thing like bad shots on their show. they do nothing but give all of us a bad name

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I know the shot your talking about. Even my wife [who doesn't hunt] thought it was terrible. I thought for a second I was watching Ted Nugent, Except this buck was pretty nice.

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HA! :D

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I haven't seen these videos but I am amazed that they would choose to air that kind of footage.
Its bad enough that it happened, but then they decide that is good enough to show on the air. [:@]

Maybe we should send a boycott letter on behalf of HNI members, or better yet,
the sponsors need to say they won't advertise for that kind of unethical crap.

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You should be required to have a brain!!! There are just bad shows out there that make the hunter look bad. These guys need to think about what they are putting out there. Edit the dang thing to at least make it look like the hunter was ethical.

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they found the deer didn't they.... so the shooter did something right. I am NOT saying the practice of unethical shots should be commended... I am just saying that people are pretty quick to jump on show producers backs about shot placement... when you are only seeing it from the camera's eyes not the hunters.... I have not seen the shot nor do i know the host and producers that show.... And another thing people don't understand that producers need to get 13 or 26 shows a year... 13 isnt all that hard, but when you have a quality show and you have to produce 26... how many of you killed 26 animals in one season, let alone with your bow? This is there livelihood, if they don’t get a show they don’t get paid, and trust me there are tons and tons and tons of cost making a show.

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crazy what they will throw on tv

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I have to agree with my counterpart from NY on this one..... (Atlasman)

Theend most definitely does not justify the means. If it were a head shot would you condone that? I mean...as long as he recovered the animal?????

I thinkthe hunting on film industry owes it to the rest of us to cast our passion in a good light. I might be looking through rose colored glasses....but I think they owe it to us to at least do that.

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edit.

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With out a doubt the hunting industry owes its fans and viewers quite a bit, no question at all. I do not condone any unethical shooting practices. All I am saying is a quartering shot through the chest that seem to do its job is not that bad of a shot. For example a head shot with a bow..... if at extremely close distances with a straight down shot.... i might not take it but i would fault someone that would if they felt comfrotable taking the shot, go for it. I killed my first Pope and Young deer that was at a slight angle away from me that went through the front side of his front leg through the heart both lungs, liver, and out just infront of the opposite side back leg.... was that a bad shot, no it was one of the quickest kills i ever had, it ran 15 yards and dropped. But again for that shot that deer was 10yards from my ground blind. i felt comfortable taking that shot.

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Well, I disagree with that initial assessment, that if the result was successful (got the buck, elk, etc), then the huntermust have doneok. An acquaintence said something similar to me when we recovered his (intentionally) hip-shot buck. grrrr...no clue... justnot the kind of people Iwant to see carrying a bow into the woods...

But I do not have a problem with the producers showing a poor shot - for oneit gives us ethics police something to rant about.

-fsh

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OFF TOPIC -

fsh - Congrats on the cover story in Rubs & Scrapes... It was a good read, I knew I'd seen that buck somewhere else!!

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when is enough, enough!? Too many shows are showing bad shots imho. Not only does it give "ethics police" somthing to rant about, it also fuels the fire for the anti's? just my 2cents.

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You hit the nail on the head with that statement. Sometimes, I like to see these big time hunters miss (not mame) their quarry. I feel it gives other hunters the impression that they can make mistakes too like anyone else. However, the "big time hunter" should not purposely take shots such as this. That definitely gives us hunters a bad rep.

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is there anyway to get the clip up here? That may end the argument.

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Good question! Who knows if this shot was made on purpose?

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I do not know in this instance if, in fact, he took the shot on purpose, but i know on closing the distance(http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2177249&mpage=1) the shooter took a poor, poor shot
intentionally.

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Personally, I'd like to hear HIS side of the story before joining the lynch mob. I'd like to know if he really did screw up and take a rotten shot or... Did a lousy tape editor screw up, get the footage from multiple cameras pieced together out of phase and make it LOOK like a rotten shot?

The only guy who knows for sure is the one who took the shot, and I wasn't standing there in his shoes. Neither were any of you. So pardon me for being the odd man out, but I'm not hopping on your little bash wagon.

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I watched the show with my TIVO. I pause and slo-mo almost every shot to see the arrow flight and impact to try to learn and improve my shot placement. This shot was taken at about 12 to 15 yards and the deer was at a very sharp quartering to, almost straight on. The camera was about a quartering to angle and made it very easy to see the flight of the arrow. The only shot the shooter had was a head shot or a back shot. He took the back shot. I for one have passed on this shot before and will pass on it every time it presents itself no matter what these "pro's" do. To me [and obviously many others] this was a no-brainer to pass up. It was and still is very dissapointing.

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And thats perfectly fine, i guess im kind of changing this thread around, considering the original title is "Horrible shot", with that said, no matter if it was a bad shot or bad editing, it gives hunters a bad name when anti's or non-hunters see these kinds of things. I'm sure they do not care if it was a good shot, with bad editing. Thanks. Kyle

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Let he who has never sinned cast the first stone!

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Watched it again tonight... 1GR8buck has it right, the guy shot the deer almost straight on right down the back.... bad choice of shot.. glad he did recover it.

treboryerf, when your on TV you have a responsibility to represent the sport of hunting, and doing something unethical isnt right, and they shouldnt keep representing our sport if they are going to do it poorly...

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We got a lot more working against us as hunters than a tv personality taking a risky shot!

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I hate MOR. The local cable provider doesn't yet have any program information for it. It just says 'Men's Outdoors and Recreation' 24/7 whereas satellite actually shows the program names and info and such.[>:]

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gotta start somewhere, right?

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SO no one here is going to own up on taking a shot that when you had the time to reflect back on it, say to yourself that maybe you shoul'nt have taken the shot even if the end results was a recovered deer.Yea the guy took a marginal shot at best,but that does not mean it was unethical like some here are saying! I know it was on tv for the whole wolrd to see but i hope no one thinks that it is less wrong to take that shot if no one is looking!

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NEVER! I have wished I had a shot back because of a miss but I have NEVER taken a head on or quartering to shot in my life and never will. I have had too many of those shots before I figured out where to placemy stands and never gave in to pressure. If your patient and commited to ethical shots you won't regret any shot you take either. As long as you bow hunt you will have shots you wish you had back but you shouldn't want it back because if ethics.

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I didn't say ethical I said risky.There is a difference.

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So explain "risky". Is risky borderline out of range? Is it a shot with branches in the way? Is it a head-on or quartering to shot? Is it a shot at a walking or running deer? What is risky and what makes it not unethical?

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All the above ir risky.It is unethical when you continue to take these shots with total disregard for the outcome.

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I somewhat agree. I guess ethics are what the shooter feels at the time. If one can justify shooting at a deer that is running they can claim it was risky to avoid the word unethical... Same can be said about a deer that is walking straight at them. I guess some would say that is risky, I would say it is unethical... Those shots in my oppinion shouldn't be taken with a rifle let alone a bow reguardless of experience or equipment.

Risky/unethical... Man, what a thread this could be. I'll start it, Thanks for the discussion.

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Theres nothing wrong with taking a head-on shot, walking/running shot. If you know what your doing. With a rifle.