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What's funny is I am working on rhythm drills now.........lol.

One night a couple of years ago my coach was shooting at a local indoor range with Jim Despart and Jim was doing what he called a "super vegas" game, 2x 3 spot targets together shooting 6 arrow ends. He apparently claimed he was doing this to work on rhythm and shot timing......to get more shots to break subconsciously during that window that you are most likely to have a perfect shot. That night my coach watchedJim tie the current world record NAA 18m score of 598 (held by Dave Cousins). For anyone that isn't sure what kind of accomplishment this it, that's 58 out of 60 baby vegas X's................;).

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This margin for error is simply unacceptable to me.

:eek:(WOW!);)

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Was he using a WB:D

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What does that mean Eg? I don't even know what that means.

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No, but he did shoot 41 out of 45 baby X's in the old location of the shop I work/shoot for with a biscuit on his bow........[8D]. Normally Jim uses a pro tuner on his bow though........

That means on a indoor vegas 3 spot target he hit that baby X 58 out of 60 shots. The baby X ring on a vegas target is roughly the size of a dime.

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Like many of you, I'm more concerned with what is a poorer than average group than a good group. Kind of a worst case scenario group. Murphy will guarentee that is the kind of shooting you will doing when a 360 bull elk is quartering away at 50 yards.

Having said that, a high percentage shot for me is a tennis ball at 20 yards or a grapefruit at 40 yards. Sometimes I can do the tennis ball or better at 40 yards, but not reliably.

My hunting partner is so good that if he didn't shoot at a different dot each shot, he would go through a dozen ST Axis arrows a week. Continually breaking nocks and tearing off fletching. I like where I'm at. I'm good enough to never miss the block target and not so good that I ruin arrows. A dozen shafts last me a long time :)

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What Rick is saying is what we mean when we talk about a forgiving set up. Accuracy comes with good form, aiming and release. If you are a good archer you can probably shoot a fairly out of tune bow well. A well tuned forgiving set up helps with the ones that barely miss. It helps that occasional arrow that should have hit the mark but just didn't quite make it.

Don't think that a super tuned ultra forgiving bow is going to shrink your 4 inch 20 yard group in half. It probably won't happen. You either have junk arrows or you just don't shoot that well yet.

I also agree with everything you said about consistency. I am capable of some pretty impressive groups when my you know what is together. I however have no problem admitting I can't do it on a real consistent basis. And that is why I am not a target archer. I do ok in a casual setting, but get me in a room full of people where I have to be serious and it just doesn't happen. Like I have said before though, I'm not real fond of competition. I just like having fun and flinging arrows. The only person I have beat is myself (and some day that isn't hard;)).

Paul

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